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HST is beautiful but my port solar array doesn't stow completely. Should I attempt to fix it from STS61 or is that just the way it is or what? Thanks for all the fun!
 

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Hi Brian, great add-on...but I have a slight problem....
I'm using Orbiter 2010 p1..and the Shuttle Fleet....I just thought I'd have a go at STS-61.....I've managed to rendezvous with the HST but for the life of me, cannot grapple it....I've switched on grapple points so I can see them....managed to get the blue arrow on the Shuttle's arm touching the red arrow on the HST's grapple point, but nothing happens......when I look at the RMS control panel, it always remains STOW.....it's an almost perfect grapple, but does not "grapple" if you get my meaning....is it a problem with shuttle fleet?....thanks, kind regards, Trevor
 

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Hi Trevor,
which version of ShuttleFleet are you using? Could you post a scenario(RMS arm in position to grapple HST)?

One thought - is the ShuttleFleet RMS sensitive to attachment(grapple) point orientation? Try rotating the RMS grapple point 180deg around the arrow's long axis (if you get me).

Cheers,
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Try and try again.. I had the same trouble at first, also.
Make sure the STS61 or Cargo Bay is selected.
Zoom in on the arrows on the large round brackets below the NASA logo and align them exactly, point to point.
Repairing the Hubble is a payload of fun.
 

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Hi Brian,
Thank you for replying...I really appreciate it...
I'm using Shuttle Fleet Version 4.8...

How do I post scenario?...sorry for not understanding directly
Regards, Trevor
 

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Hi guys....thank you for your replies....I really appreciate your help and advice...anyway, after hours of trying, I did what you suggested and re-positioned the shuttle horizontal and in line with the HST, rather than trying to grapple from any angle....and lo and behold, it worked !....I managed to secure it onto the docking ring as well.....so voila, it works.....phew !
Thanks again guys....at least I know where to come for help....kind regards, Trevor
 

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Hi guys,

Sorry to bother you again....I've managed to open a couple of the doors..and was wondering....how do I remove the unit that is behind the guy on EVA?...do I grapple to handle or do I try and grapple the latch point?...and also, when I try and line up the blue and red arrows, do they just have to be "point of arrow" touching the other "point of arrow"...or do they need to overlap?...apologies for the questions, but I'm really enjoying this scenario, and would love to complete it.....I've added the "current state" code where I am currently at in the scenario...hope this helps....kind regards, Trevor



Code:
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Contains the latest simulation state.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 49326.0388942759
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship UMmu_Crew-Covey
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  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 40.00
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  UMMUCREW Crew-Thornton-40-70-70
  UMMUCREW Crew-Nicollier-40-70-70
  UMMUCREW Crew-Hoffman-40-70-70
  CONFIGURATION 3
  OV- 105
  RENDER 
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  KUBAND 1 1.0000
  POSTLAND 0 0.0000
  SSMES 0 0.0000
  ADTA 0 0.0000
  PETD 1 1.0000
  SETD 1 1.0000
  ARMTILT 1 1.0000 1 1.0000
  PRADIATOR 1 1.0000
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  GEAR 0 0.0000
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  PAYLOAD_MASS3 0.0000
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  PL1_ROT 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
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  PL2_DIR 0.000000 1.000000 0.000000
  PL2_ROT 1.000000 0.000000 0.000000
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  PL6_ROT 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
  KEEL_CAM 0.145000 -0.500000 -1.356000
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  LUM 1
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  RSI 0 0.0000
  RSU 0 0.0000
  IRN 0 0.1097
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -114.38 22.03 167.72
  ATTACHED 0:0,STS61-CargoBay
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  ATTACHED 0:1,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 152.27
  ATTACHED 0:2,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
END
RSU2:HST_EX/rsu2
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 152.27
  ATTACHED 0:3,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
END
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 152.27
  ATTACHED 0:4,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
END
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  AROT -19.71 11.37 112.49
  ATTACHED 0:5,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -19.71 11.37 112.49
  ATTACHED 0:6,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
END
TempHolder:HST_EX/holder
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -19.71 11.37 112.49
  ATTACHED 0:11,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
END
HST:HST_EX/hst_ex
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 22.78
  ATTACHED 1:8,STS61-CargoBay
  AFCMODE 7
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  SNSH 0 0.0000
  SP1P 0 0 2 0.0000 0.0000 0.5000
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  HGAD 0 0.0000
  HGAR 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
  FG2 0 0.0000 0 0.0000
  FG1 2 1.0000 2 1.0000
  STR 0 0.0000 0 0.0000
  PV2 2 1.0000 2 1.0000
  NV2 2 1.0000 2 1.0000
  INM GHRS FOS FOC HSP
  TGN Moon
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  MSHS 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
  MMSH 0 0 0
  RADC 0.000000 0.000000 0 0 0 0 0 0
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  RVEL -2333.348 6.418 7194.926
  AROT -65.13 20.83 95.53
  RCSMODE 2
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.909829
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 130
  O2Level 16.5549
  O2MaxLevel 100.0000
  CardiacBeat 70.0000
  Age 40
  HudColor 0
  Chute 0
  PressureDeath 0
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  ProjLights 0
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FOC:HST_EX/inst3
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  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 -157.22
  ATTACHED 0:4,HST
  AFCMODE 7
END
HSP:HST_EX/inst4
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 5968155.46 -3027567.16 1938188.39
  RVEL -2333.343 6.439 7194.918
  AROT -84.25 -64.93 -157.22
  ATTACHED 0:5,HST
  AFCMODE 7
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

BEGIN_DX9ExtMFD
END

BEGIN_uap
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Hi Trevor,
please note that you can't use the UMMU crew to EVA and grapple the replacement items for HST (UMMU can't grapple objects that are currently attached to something else).
You need to use the EVA astronauts spawned by the CargoBay(see the readme doc).
Cheers,
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Hi Brian,

I'll try the EVA with the astronauts as you suggest...I misunderstood and just did a normal EVA...doh!!....I remember now reading it in the readme.doc....also, was wondering..could you maybe take a look at my latest quicksave (see below) and can you see any reason why the HST won't automatically be "captured" by the docking ring?....I can't for the life of me see why it won't.....surely it's as close as I can get it, and it must be <0.3m from the BAPS.....am I missing something?......thanks Brian, appreciate you having a look.....regards, Trevor


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BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 2920
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BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 49326.0122623930
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship UMmu_Crew-Covey
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BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET UMmu_Crew-Covey
MODE Extern
POS 0.67 -30.16 -12.12
TRACKMODE TargetRelative
FOV 40.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Surface
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BEGIN_SHIPS
STS-61:Shuttle
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AROT -114.38 22.03 77.72
RCSMODE 2
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PRPLEVEL 0:0.539303
NAVFREQ 0 0
UMMUCREW Crew-Akers-40-70-70
UMMUCREW Crew-Bowersox-40-70-70
UMMUCREW Crew-Musgrave-40-70-70
UMMUCREW Crew-Thornton-40-70-70
UMMUCREW Crew-Nicollier-40-70-70
UMMUCREW Crew-Hoffman-40-70-70
CONFIGURATION 3
OV- 105
RENDER
RMSARM
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KUBAND 1 1.0000
POSTLAND 0 0.0000
SSMES 0 0.0000
ADTA 0 0.0000
PETD 1 1.0000
SETD 1 1.0000
ARMTILT 1 1.0000 1 1.0000
PRADIATOR 1 1.0000
SRADIATOR 0 0.0000
GEAR 0 0.0000
PAYLOAD_MASS1 12500.0000
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PAYLOAD_MASS3 0.0000
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PL6_ROT 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
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OMS
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NAVFREQ 0 0
LUM 1
ASI 0 0.0000
RSI 0 0.0000
RSU 0 0.0000
IRN 0 0.1097
ORN 2 1.0000
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END
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Age 40
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Chute 0
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The HST appears to be captured by the BAPS as you said in your post #48.
I found it easier to grapple and release stuff using the RMS arm but the EVA Astronauts work as well with practice.
Make sure you remove and install the correct components according to the readme pdf.
They will be captured and "SECURED" <0.3m from the correct position.
Hope you don't mind my 2 pence from another newbe.
You're making good progress. Remember to have fun.
 

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Hi Jaypray63...thank you for your reply, and no, of course I don't mind your input...it's always good to hear from other Orbinauts...experienced or not, I'm far from experienced, but love Orbiter and have done for a few years now.

I think I've managed to "grapple" with the problem, if you pardon the pun....I think it's just a case of persevering and patience....but I've managed to open the doors with the EVA astronauts and now it's just a case of finding out where the various RSU's are, and what to remove and replace....I can't see any documentation of where the components are....

Have you done this scenario?....

Kind regards, Trevor
 

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I think I've managed to "grapple" with the problem, if you pardon the pun....I think it's just a case of persevering and patience....but I've managed to open the doors with the EVA astronauts and now it's just a case of finding out where the various RSU's are, and what to remove and replace....I can't see any documentation of where the components are....

Have you done this scenario?....

Kind regards, Trevor

Last time I ran these scenarios, I think I used some press kits combined with the manual included with the addon to figure out which black boxes went where. It's been quite awhile since then, and I didn't think to back that stuff up before the computer I did the missions on died. I don't quite remember it well to give you a quick walk though either:shrug:


I can give you what would be my plan in your situation though. I'd start with the press kits found here. Then if I had additional questions or whatever, I'd use a normal web search engine to turn up additional info. If Google or whatever was mostly finding the kind of public consumption info that wasn't detailed enough for my purposes, I'd use the search engine at the NASA Technical Reports Server site to dig up NASA documents that the actual astronauts might have used to familiarize themselves with Hubble. Or at least I would if the NTRS wasn't down at the moment like it is right now.

Hopefully you can find what you need to know, and if not, don't be afraid to ask again here.
 

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Thanks guys...I really appreciate your responses.....I have checked out the videos and yes, I agree..they are awesome...hats off to those guys....
I shall try and master the HST scenarios, and just keep plugging away....I'm sure I'll manage one way or another....but thanks for all your help....really appreciate it....keep on Orbiting !...regards
 

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Thanks BrianJ for making this beautiful addon. It's oddly satisfying to watch HST precisely aiming at a distant planet.

It seems ODS is missing in Shuttle Fleet scenarios. I had to add ODS in scenario file like this:

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  RMSARM
  ODS
  CARGODOOR 0 0.0000
  KUBAND 0 0.0000
 

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IIRC, the HST-ex has the STS-61 mission, which is way before the time when Shuttles had a docking system installed.
 

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IIRC, the HST-ex has the STS-61 mission, which is way before the time when Shuttles had a docking system installed.
Confirmed. Docking port is not required for this mission...:embarrassed:
https://youtu.be/aIDSMHGPhZU?t=26m29s

It seems screenshot in hst_ex_readme.pdf is based on Default Atlantis scenarios. If you use Shuttle Fleet scenarios you don't have to add ODS.
 
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