Launch News North Korea comes again for third attempt to send satellite into space in April

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Well, I am at least sure it will have higher chances following the assigned azimuth, than getting intercepted by Japanese ships, which are currently the only units in Japan with such capability.
That is true. But everyone likes to make bold propositions occasionally. :p
 

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That is true. But everyone likes to make bold propositions occasionally. :p

I don't. I didn't for example say, for how long it will be following the trajectory. :lol:
 

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"Visit North Korea - Where doglegs during launches are not a skill":)
 

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"Visit North Korea - because parts of our rockets have already visited you!"
 

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Visit North Korea
Look! A real foreigner!
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I'm kinda curious about this Japan-thing and so I made some calculations (and searched old school files):

From the latitude of the pad and the inclination of 98° I end up with the two possible azimuths of -10.42° over China and Russia and the probable azimuth of 190,42° over the Yellow Sea.
This then looks quite different to the map by Bob Christy, posted by Galactic Penguin, so I'm not sure who made a mistake.:hmm:

So, the facts to Japan:
The nearest point to the "mainland" is somewhere in the Yellow Sea, 500 kilometers distance.
The nearest point to Japanese territory should be to Yonaguni, 125 kilometers, BUT downrange of 1,700 kilometers to to launch pad (comparable to CapeC and Bermuda).

The attached files are 4 screenshots from Google Earth, first two show the possible trajectories (I've rescaled them a bit because someone is not able to keep file sizes in their restriction:shifty:), next two show the distances from Japan to the southern trajectory. GE interface is in german, but the first number is the right one:thumbup:
 

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A large team of journalists (from BBC/CNN/NBC/many other news agencies around the globe) has arrived at Pyongyang reporting on this very launch. And we've got the first images of the rocket, courtesy of various news agencies:

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And we've news reports from the launch site by NHK and FranceTV...

...and an image of the model of the satellite too!

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P.S. If you fear that the reporters would be doing badly on reporting on spaceflight, then don't worry, as veteran spaceflight news journalist (and ex-Space Shuttle flight controller) Jim Oberg is in North Korea to cover the launch for NBC news!
 
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Japan has deployed PAC-3 batteries all over the territories and one in the Ministery of Defense, right in the center of Tokyo. Frigates with SM-3 missles are patrolling the archipel. And those kind of missles aren't something to underestimate, during a test the satellite USA-193 has been successfully pulverized at 293 km of altitude. So I'd say there is little to worry about, even if a rocket stage deviates of its trajectory in an uncontrolled manner, it could probably be torn in small pieces.

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The North Korean rocket.

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A SM-3 missile a few instants before liftoff.
 
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How much has North Korea's media distorted this?

I mean how much more than usual? :censored:

Then again, there are quite a few American news corporations who aren't too much better.
 

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Then again, there are quite a few American news corporations who aren't too much better.

Don't think I like having a media that I can't trust at all. I'll guess the BBC isn't much better. EDIT: Not intended to be offensive or anything.

It's unfortunate, but we are nearing the point where the worst place to get news is the media itself! What a crazy world we live in!

As for NK, when I think about getting rid of it my concern lies more with all the people in concentration camps and the total lack of respect for human rights then the political ramifications, which belong in the Basement.

I don't care who feels uncomfortable about who's borders against who. I feel upset that all those people are denied higher standards of living, access to the rest of the world and human culture, and decent human rights. So China or SK may feel uncomfortable- big deal! What matters is those poor North Koreans! There's no excuse left for a regime like North Korea.
 

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Couldn't we just blow up their satellites. We are hostile towards the NK.
 

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It looks that NK seriously will launch a satellite into orbit.

But I advise everybody for guarantee to buy a metal umbrella.
 

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Couldn't we just blow up their satellites. We are hostile towards the NK.

No, you can't. First of all because of the Outer Space Treaty that you once signed, but which is just paper. Second, because North Korea is not the only country in the world - can you even imagine what China or Iran will do, once you start blowing up satellites - and that only because you have issues?
 

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No, you can't. First of all because of the Outer Space Treaty that you once signed, but which is just paper. Second, because North Korea is not the only country in the world - can you even imagine what China or Iran will do, once you start blowing up satellites - and that only because you have issues?
True but the problem is that they maybe using their spacecraft againt us. They are not part of the treaty.
 

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True but the problem is that they maybe using their spacecraft againt us. They are not part of the treaty.

Have you proof that the spacecraft go,s used against other nations?

It looks not on a ASAT, so that's a reason to less worry about it :lol:
 
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