Problem Orbiter crash

[imcute]

My orbiter crashes when I load a scenario.If I use the red version then the load screen loads for 5 secs the crashes,and if I use the blue version then it loads stuff in the cmd then crashes after the last step.
My RTL(runtime library)s are all uptodate.The CPU/Memory usage is only 5% when I run the orbiter.

 

[imcute]

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000:
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module Atlantis_SRB.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Atlantis_Tank.dll ..... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Atlantis.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: VESSEL::CreateVariableDragElement
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera

 

[n72.75]

When running OrbiterNG (no graphics this is the blue icon) you need to have a graphics client installed.

This is the one you want for Orbiter2016 https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/d3d9-for-orbiter-2016.5493/

Your issue with Orbiter (the red icon) is probably setting the resolution too high. Orbiter(red icon) uses DX7 (from 1999) and is quite old at this point. The standard way almost everyone runs Orbiter is with the graphics client and OrbiterNG, as I stated above.

Let us know if you have any trouble setting it up.

 

[imcute]

When running OrbiterNG (no graphics this is the blue icon) you need to have a graphics client installed.

This is the one you want for Orbiter2016 https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/d3d9-for-orbiter-2016.5493/

Your issue with Orbiter (the red icon) is probably setting the resolution too high. Orbiter(red icon) uses DX7 (from 1999) and is quite old at this point. The standard way almost everyone runs Orbiter is with the graphics client and OrbiterNG, as I stated above.

Let us know if you have any trouble setting it up.

I did.It isn't helping.

 

[GLS]

Hi!
Did you enable the D3D9Client in the Modules tab?

 

[Ripley]

Oldie, but hopefully still useful.

https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/junction-points-symbolic-links-rev-2.29/

 

[imcute]

Hi!
Did you enable the D3D9Client in the Modules tab?

Yes

 

[imcute]

Oldie, but hopefully still useful.

https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/junction-points-symbolic-links-rev-2.29/

not useful

 

[Ripley]

Maybe try to add some specs of your pc?

 

[GLS]

Yes

Can you post the log when running the "blue icon"? Does it only show the command window?

 

[imcute]

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
BaseDir : C:\Orbiter2016\
ConfigDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Config\
MeshDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Meshes\
TextureDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures\
HightexDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures2\
ScenarioDir: C:\Orbiter2016\Scenarios\
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
D3D9 DLLs : C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_43.dll [v 9.29.952.3111]
: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll [v 10.0.19041.2311]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 211009, API 160828]
000000.000:
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: D3D9: [DirectX 9 Initialized]
D3D9: 3D-Adapter.............. : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
D3D9: MaxTextureWidth......... : 16384
D3D9: MaxTextureHeight........ : 16384
D3D9: MaxTextureRepeat........ : 8192
D3D9: VolTexAddressCaps....... : 0x3F
D3D9: NumSimultaneousRTs...... : 4
D3D9: VertexDeclCaps.......... : 0x30F
D3D9: MiscCaps................ : 0x2FCEF2
D3D9: XNA Math Support........ : Yes
D3D9: Vertex Texture.......... : Yes
D3D9: Separate AlphaBlend..... : Yes
D3D9: Shadow Mapping.......... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_D32F_LOCKABLE.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A2R10G10B10...... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_L8............... : Yes
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_DEC3N......... : No
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_2..... : Yes
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_4..... : Yes
D3D9: Runs under WINE......... : No
D3D9: D3D9Build Date.......... : 211009
D3D9: Available Texture Memory : 4089 MB
000000.000: D3D9: [3DDevice Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [Loading Constellations]
000000.000: D3D9: [D3D9Client Initialized]

 

[imcute]

Maybe try to add some specs of your pc?

its definitely not a problem of my hardware

 

[GLS]

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
BaseDir : C:\Orbiter2016\
ConfigDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Config\
MeshDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Meshes\
TextureDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures\
HightexDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures2\
ScenarioDir: C:\Orbiter2016\Scenarios\
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
D3D9 DLLs : C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_43.dll [v 9.29.952.3111]
: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll [v 10.0.19041.2311]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 211009, API 160828]
000000.000:
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: D3D9: [DirectX 9 Initialized]
D3D9: 3D-Adapter.............. : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650
D3D9: MaxTextureWidth......... : 16384
D3D9: MaxTextureHeight........ : 16384
D3D9: MaxTextureRepeat........ : 8192
D3D9: VolTexAddressCaps....... : 0x3F
D3D9: NumSimultaneousRTs...... : 4
D3D9: VertexDeclCaps.......... : 0x30F
D3D9: MiscCaps................ : 0x2FCEF2
D3D9: XNA Math Support........ : Yes
D3D9: Vertex Texture.......... : Yes
D3D9: Separate AlphaBlend..... : Yes
D3D9: Shadow Mapping.......... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A16B16G16R16F.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A32B32G32R32F.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_D32F_LOCKABLE.... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_A2R10G10B10...... : Yes
D3D9: D3DFMT_L8............... : Yes
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_DEC3N......... : No
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_2..... : Yes
D3D9: D3DDTCAPS_FLOAT16_4..... : Yes
D3D9: Runs under WINE......... : No
D3D9: D3D9Build Date.......... : 211009
D3D9: Available Texture Memory : 4089 MB
000000.000: D3D9: [3DDevice Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [Loading Constellations]
000000.000: D3D9: [D3D9Client Initialized]

Thanks! D3D9 is definitively loaded, so we can already exclude some library issues.
Did it crash when you tried to launch a scenario, or that is not the complete log? If it didn't crash, did you get a splash screen or just the command line?
Could you also try window-mode vs full screen, and also play around with the resolution?


Also, for the "experts": wasn't there an issue running Orbiter right from the C:\ folder? I did a quick search and didn't find anything, but I remember something being mentioned somewhere.

 

[Arvil]

AFAIK, Orbiter doesn’t like the x86 folder, it prefers to run as C:\Orbiter. That’s where it is in mine.
Actually my install is C:\OrbiterTop\Orbiter. OrbiterTop contains the download folder and the external docs folder, and others. It could contain multiple Orbiter installs, if you like.

 

[imcute]

AFAIK, Orbiter doesn’t like the x86 folder, it prefers to run as C:\Orbiter. That’s where it is in mine.
Actually my install is C:\OrbiterTop\Orbiter. OrbiterTop contains the download folder and the external docs folder, and others. It could contain multiple Orbiter installs, if you like.

My install is in C:\Orbiter2016

 

[imcute]

Thanks! D3D9 is definitively loaded, so we can already exclude some library issues.
Did it crash when you tried to launch a scenario, or that is not the complete log? If it didn't crash, did you get a splash screen or just the command line?
Could you also try window-mode vs full screen, and also play around with the resolution?


Also, for the "experts": wasn't there an issue running Orbiter right from the C:\ folder? I did a quick search and didn't find anything, but I remember something being mentioned somewhere.

It crashes when I launch a scenario,and I get a splash screen and it crashes just before it successfully loads.(i.e it did not successfully load)
I did,and that won't work

 

[Ripley]

its definitely not a problem of my hardware

Ok, good luck.

 

[GLS]

It crashes when I launch a scenario,and I get a splash screen and it crashes just before it successfully loads.(i.e it did not successfully load)
I did,and that won't work

There is an option to enable more logging... I don't remember exactly where (I don't have access to Orbiter right now), but it should be something similar to "Extra >> Debugging options >> Verbose log".
Also, there is a D3D9 log, which has several debug levels, controlled by an option in... (again, from memory) "Visual Settings >> Advanced (this is a button which opens a new window) >> Log level". Set it to the full output, try a scenario and post both logs please (the D3D9 log is a .html file, located in /Modules/D3D9).

 

[imcute]

There is an option to enable more logging... I don't remember exactly where (I don't have access to Orbiter right now), but it should be something similar to "Extra >> Debugging options >> Verbose log".
Also, there is a D3D9 log, which has several debug levels, controlled by an option in... (again, from memory) "Visual Settings >> Advanced (this is a button which opens a new window) >> Log level". Set it to the full output, try a scenario and post both logs please (the D3D9 log is a .html file, located in /Modules/D3D9).

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
BaseDir : C:\Orbiter2016\
BaseDir : C:\Orbiter2016\
ConfigDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Config\
ConfigDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Config\
MeshDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Meshes\
MeshDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Meshes\
TextureDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures\
TextureDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures\
HightexDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures2\
HightexDir : C:\Orbiter2016\Textures2\
ScenarioDir: C:\Orbiter2016\Scenarios\
ScenarioDir: C:\Orbiter2016\Scenarios\
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
D3D9 DLLs : C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll [v 10.0.19041.2311]
D3D9 DLLs : C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3d9.dll [v 10.0.19041.2311]
: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_43.dll [v 9.29.952.3111]
: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\d3dx9_43.dll [v 9.29.952.3111]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 211009, API 160828]
000000.000: Module D3D9Client.dll ........ [Build 211009, API 160828]
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1650) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000:
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: D3D9: [DirectX 9 Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [3DDevice Initialized]
000000.000: D3D9: [Loading Constellations]
000000.000: D3D9: [D3D9Client Initialized]

 

[imcute]

There is an option to enable more logging... I don't remember exactly where (I don't have access to Orbiter right now), but it should be something similar to "Extra >> Debugging options >> Verbose log".
Also, there is a D3D9 log, which has several debug levels, controlled by an option in... (again, from memory) "Visual Settings >> Advanced (this is a button which opens a new window) >> Log level". Set it to the full output, try a scenario and post both logs please (the D3D9 log is a .html file, located in /Modules/D3D9).

(0: 0.0s 00.00ms)(0x21FC) [Not Compiled With nVidia API]
(1: 0.0s 07.73ms)(0x21FC) ================ clbkInitialise ===============
(2: 0.0s 00.03ms)(0x21FC) Orbiter Version = 160828
(3: 0.1s 42.67ms)(0x21FC) Index:0 640 x 480 60Hz (22)
(4: 0.1s 01.79ms)(0x21FC) Index:1 640 x 480 72Hz (22)
(5: 0.1s 03.93ms)(0x21FC) Index:2 640 x 480 75Hz (22)
(6: 0.1s 16.26ms)(0x21FC) Index:3 720 x 480 56Hz (22)
(7: 0.1s 20.60ms)(0x21FC) Index:4 720 x 480 60Hz (22)
(8: 0.1s 20.83ms)(0x21FC) Index:5 720 x 480 72Hz (22)
(9: 0.1s 23.00ms)(0x21FC) Index:6 720 x 480 75Hz (22)
(10: 0.2s 22.54ms)(0x21FC) Index:7 720 x 576 56Hz (22)
(11: 0.2s 11.97ms)(0x21FC) Index:8 720 x 576 60Hz (22)
(12: 0.2s 21.55ms)(0x21FC) Index:9 720 x 576 72Hz (22)
(13: 0.2s 20.44ms)(0x21FC) Index:10 720 x 576 75Hz (22)
(14: 0.2s 20.11ms)(0x21FC) Index:11 800 x 600 56Hz (22)
(15: 0.3s 19.44ms)(0x21FC) Index:12 800 x 600 60Hz (22)
(16: 0.3s 07.11ms)(0x21FC) Index:13 800 x 600 72Hz (22)
(17: 0.3s 01.77ms)(0x21FC) Index:14 800 x 600 75Hz (22)
(18: 0.3s 02.63ms)(0x21FC) Index:15 1024 x 768 60Hz (22)
(19: 0.3s 01.86ms)(0x21FC) Index:16 1024 x 768 70Hz (22)
(20: 0.3s 01.75ms)(0x21FC) Index:17 1024 x 768 75Hz (22)
(21: 0.3s 01.66ms)(0x21FC) Index:18 1152 x 864 75Hz (22)
(22: 0.3s 01.66ms)(0x21FC) Index:19 1176 x 664 60Hz (22)
(23: 0.3s 01.60ms)(0x21FC) Index:20 1280 x 720 60Hz (22)
(24: 0.3s 01.54ms)(0x21FC) Index:21 1280 x 768 60Hz (22)
(25: 0.3s 01.64ms)(0x21FC) Index:22 1280 x 800 60Hz (22)
(26: 0.3s 01.57ms)(0x21FC) Index:23 1280 x 960 60Hz (22)
(27: 0.3s 02.05ms)(0x21FC) Index:24 1280 x 960 75Hz (22)
(28: 0.3s 01.98ms)(0x21FC) Index:25 1280 x 1024 60Hz (22)
(29: 0.3s 01.74ms)(0x21FC) Index:26 1280 x 1024 75Hz (22)
(30: 0.3s 01.55ms)(0x21FC) Index:27 1360 x 768 60Hz (22)
(31: 0.3s 01.59ms)(0x21FC) Index:28 1366 x 768 60Hz (22)
(32: 0.3s 01.62ms)(0x21FC) Index:29 1600 x 900 60Hz (22)
(33: 0.3s 01.86ms)(0x21FC) Index:30 1600 x 1024 59Hz (22)
(34: 0.3s 00.96ms)(0x21FC) Index:31 1600 x 1024 60Hz (22)
(35: 0.3s 00.54ms)(0x21FC) Index:32 1600 x 1200 59Hz (22)
(36: 0.3s 00.55ms)(0x21FC) Index:33 1600 x 1200 60Hz (22)
(37: 0.3s 00.29ms)(0x21FC) Index:34 1680 x 1050 59Hz (22)
(38: 0.3s 00.63ms)(0x21FC) Index:35 1680 x 1050 60Hz (22)
(39: 0.3s 00.45ms)(0x21FC) Index:36 1920 x 1080 60Hz (22)
(40: 0.3s 00.29ms)(0x21FC) Index:37 1920 x 1080 59Hz (22)
(41: 0.3s 00.53ms)(0x21FC) Index:38 1920 x 1200 59Hz (22)
(42: 0.3s 00.42ms)(0x21FC) Index:39 1920 x 1200 60Hz (22)
(43: 0.3s 00.30ms)(0x21FC) Index:40 1920 x 1440 59Hz (22)
(44: 0.3s 00.53ms)(0x21FC) Index:41 1920 x 1440 60Hz (22)
(45: 0.3s 00.58ms)(0x21FC) Index:42 2048 x 1536 60Hz (22)
(46: 0.3s 00.31ms)(0x21FC) Index:43 2048 x 1536 30Hz (22)
(47: 0.3s 00.54ms)(0x21FC) Index:44 2048 x 1536 29Hz (22)
(48: 0.3s 00.43ms)(0x21FC) Index:45 2560 x 1440 59Hz (22)
(49: 0.3s 00.31ms)(0x21FC) Index:46 2560 x 1440 60Hz (22)
(50: 0.3s 00.52ms)(0x21FC) Index:47 2560 x 1600 60Hz (22)
(51: 0.3s 00.31ms)(0x21FC) Index:48 2560 x 1600 30Hz (22)
(52: 0.3s 00.25ms)(0x21FC) Index:49 2560 x 1600 29Hz (22)
(53: 0.3s 00.27ms)(0x21FC) Index:50 3840 x 2160 60Hz (22)
(54: 0.3s 00.31ms)(0x21FC) Index:51 3840 x 2160 30Hz (22)
(55: 0.3s 00.31ms)(0x21FC) Index:52 3840 x 2160 29Hz (22)
(56: 0.3s 00.35ms)(0x21FC) Index:53 1440 x 900 60Hz (22)
(57: 4.5s 4236.83ms)(0x21FC) Scenario = .\Scenarios\(Current state).scn
(58: 4.6s 28.83ms)(0x21FC) D3D9Client destructor called
(59: 4.6s 00.05ms)(0x21FC) --------------ExitModule------------
(60: 4.6s 00.48ms)(0x21FC) Log Closed