AMSO AMSO for Orbiter 2016 released

[Max-Q]

XRSound disabled and OrbiterSound enabled in Orbiter's modules tab?

 

[Wuwuk]

XRSound disabled and OrbiterSound enabled in Orbiter's modules tab?

my mistake, thanks
sound working

 

[Joseph Borg]

Using the new Terrain Tool, here's the Apollo 11 landing site:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1YWj6PmQR_utjjW-kPfJFVGIGUOLAnFCC

Extract to textures\moon

Notice that the default Tranquility Base is off relative to the actual landing site.
Orbiter/AMSP needs to be updated on this regard, using the data here http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/posts/938
So the automated landing will not put you on the historical place...

On the image I landed close the historical site (it's the light circle at the tip of the LEM's shadow).

Ahhh is there a way, someone to point me to the latest / updated Apollo 11 textures and landing site ? i have just made a come back...

 

[gattispilot]

I need help getting the Skylab AMSO to work with the milkstool.

I get the rocket on the stand but the CSM is not there?

Fixed: It was in the CFG.

 

[misha.physics]

Hi. Finally i decided to try playing AMSO with Orbiter 2016. I quickly read all the messages in this thread, and I want to clarify some things.

1) What the sound module is better for AMSO with Orbiter 2016? For now I'm not goint to install any additional sound packages. So, can I use only the OrbiterSound 5.0 without the XRSound and SoundBridge? If yes, then I don't need to unpack the "XRSound_AMSO.zip" included into AMSO add-on, isn't it? How much sounds will I lose in this case? Will sound files in the "Sound" directory included into AMSO add-on work correctly with the Orbiter Sound 5.0?

2) Should I see any countdown timer after launching a launch scenario? Because now I see just this:

 

[gamer19]

https://www.acsoft.ch/AMSO/2016/ReadMeFirst.txt

 

[misha.physics]

Thanks. I've already read this. Regarding sounds I'm interested in your advice, and this TXT doesn't include any information about a countdown timer after launching a launch scenario. Maybe I'll find it in the add-on manual with 60 pages.

 

[misha.physics]

From the AMSO user manual:

P34 -> Engage DD:
When both the LM’s and the CSM’s orbital planes are aligned you can engage this program. It will build a sequence of programs which will allow synchronizing the phase of both vessels and perform the rendezvous.

I tried to activate this automatic rendezvous (and docking?) just after undocking CSM from LM being on a circular lunar orbit, but there's not the P34 program in the autopilot list. I tried it both in CSM and LM. Or can I only do it after LM ascends from the Moon?

 

[MarkWatney2015]

It is only enabled after launching from the Moon (or aborting it Apollo 10 style)

 

[Oceanis Apollo]

Dealing with IMFD issues in AMSO for Orbiter 2026, I did not see any other place where the problem is exposed. But may be I didn't find...
I have a clue about that issue.

I did a lot of tests with many scenarios (included those provided in AMSO), and I tried many configurations. Always, the ApA is far far above what was programed (3M instead of 300k).
If we compare with LTMFD, it seems both MFD gives the same dV. So, it is probably BT that is erroneous. Why? My intuition has been that inerty (mass) is wrong. The more it weights the more you push for the same dV. So... I jettisoned the LEM, and then it worked!
So it seems IMFD doesn't know the main engine pushes CSM + LEM. together.

I assume we have the same issue during TLI (but it is probably not visible), LOI, DOI. Then we probably can use IMFD.

I spent a day trying to fix my configuration, and looking for contributions about this issue. Eventually I post this. May be it could be usefull to anybody in the same situation I was.

 

[N_Molson]

We don't have Orbiter 2026. Not yet.

 

[Lucy]

We don't have Orbiter 2026. Not yet.

Well, it isn't 2026 yet...

 

[n72.75]

Well, it isn't 2026 yet...

We have until 2026-12-31, but obviously we'd never cut it that close

 

[Lucy]

We have until 2026-12-31, but obviously we'd never cut it that close

Imagine someone cutting a release on the last day of the year just to keep the number correct

 

[Oceanis Apollo]

We don't have Orbiter 2026. Not yet.

Oh sorry my bad! Of course I was talking of Orbiter 2016.
A little bit enthousiastic, may be

 

[MarkWatney2015]

Oh sorry my bad! Of course I was talking of Orbiter 2016.
A little bit enthousiastic, may be

I honestly thought you're probably referring to Orbiter 2024, and others are just kidding around a little bit lol, but I understand

If anybody knows if an Orbiter 2024 compatible version of AMSO exists, lemme know as well, thanks

 

[Oceanis Apollo]

I honestly thought you're probably referring to Orbiter 2024, and others are just kidding around a little bit lol, but I understand

If anybody knows if an Orbiter 2024 compatible version of AMSO exists, lemme know as well, thanks

Sorry for the disorder I made writing 2026 instead of 2016. I do confirm I have LOI issue with IMFD with AMSO and Orbiter 2016. I saw a post on page 2 of this thread that mentions the fact.
By the way I think I tried to install AMSO module in Orbiter 2024 and had a message such as: "This version AMSO doesn't support Orbiter 2024". I do confirm I am using Orbiter Build 28 Aug 2016 (v.160828)

And I do reaally think LEM mass is missing somewhere in the computation made by IMFD. But this conclusion is quite suprious because it is only based on an experiment (LOI without LEM). I would be really pleased if someone more comptetent could confirm or deny the point.

 

[FordPrefect]

I was able to achieve a good* LOI (burn) pretty much on every Apollo mission using the LTMFD (LunarTransferMFD) LOI program with AMSO 1.23 in Orbiter 2016 with the full stack (CSM+LM).


* in terms of resulting apolune and perilune

Get LTMFD here: https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/lunartransfer-mfd-ltmfd.5501/

 

[Oceanis Apollo]

I was able to achieve a good* LOI (burn) pretty much on every Apollo mission using the LTMFD (LunarTransferMFD) LOI program with AMSO 1.23 in Orbiter 2016 with the full stack (CSM+LM).


* in terms of resulting apolune and perilune

Get LTMFD here: https://www.orbiter-forum.com/resources/lunartransfer-mfd-ltmfd.5501/

I do confirm I use LTMFD with success. That is the proper alternative to IMFD issues. But I found the situation a little bit disapointing because I do like IMFD's versatility