Space Shuttle Ultra development thread

[Urwumpe]

Donamy: Can you plan to add the R4 panel to the rescaled Shuttle VC mesh? It is right below the pilot side fire extinguisher and contains main MPS controls and switches for the landing gear brake hydraulics. Its orientation might look a bit strange at first, but it should be easily readable from the pilot view when you look down at panel R2.

I make you a drawing of the panel with the required labels over lunch. I just noticed that it is again one of my stealth panels: Panels which exist in the shuttle, but where I have a hard time locating it in the VC mesh.

 

[DaveS]

Are the engine animations also fixed already?

Just made a quick check and the SSME TVC animations are good.

 

[DaveS]

A status update on the concrete hardstand:
I managed to get it into Orbiter yesterday and now I'm cleaning it up before adding the final details.

Maybe someone could do the pad area buildings and facilities?

 

[Urwumpe]

Maybe someone could do the pad area buildings and facilities?

I am bad at texturing, but I can make the meshes in anim8or if somebody else textures them. But I am more a coder, than a mesher.

 

[DaveS]

I am bad at texturing, but I can make the meshes in anim8or if somebody else textures them. But I am more a coder, than a mesher.

I can texture them if you make the meshes. Currently the hardstand is implemented as base object.

 

[Donamy]

Panel R4 wouldn't be difficult, but it would be difficult to see. I'm sure the pilot uses special switch tabs, to get at the pertinant buttons, by feel and memory.

 

[Urwumpe]

Panel R4 wouldn't be difficult, but it would be difficult to see. I'm sure the pilot uses special switch tabs, to get at the pertinant buttons, by feel and memory.

Seeing could get easier. I just need to change the head movement of the pilot a bit when leaning to the right.

Also the panel contains talkbacks, so you can be sure it can be seen. But it is not a panel you can see quickly, that's right. It gets mostly important for post insertion and on orbit ops.

DaveS: Which would be the first building you would like to have? The LOX/LH2 tanks for example?

 

[DaveS]

DaveS: Which would be the first building you would like to have? The LOX/LH2 tanks for example?

Yes.

 

[Donamy]

Seeing could get easier. I just need to change the head movement of the pilot a bit when leaning to the right.

Could we also get new view, looking up through the repositioned COAS ??

 

[Urwumpe]

Could we also get new view, looking up through the repositioned COAS ??

Can be done, the positions need to be fixed anyway, they had been designed for something operated without all panels. In the aft work station, we could need one or two extra positions for handling all this.

The MS1 position is also slightly wrong - it should be a bit offset to the right.

 

[DaveS]

The MS1 position is also slightly wrong - it should be a bit offset to the right.

Don't you mean MS2/FE? It's always MS2 that is designated the FE.

 

[Urwumpe]

Don't you mean MS2/FE? It's always MS2 that is designated the FE.

Yes, but the MS1 position we use is also wrong - we have it centerlined, its actually more towards the edge of the pilot seat.

And a MS2 position would be really helpful during launch. I will add it.:speakcool:

Theoretically, we could even try having different camera positions for the aft flight deck for launch/entry and orbit ops.

 

[DaveS]

Yes, but the MS1 position we use is also wrong - we have it centerlined, its actually more towards the edge of the pilot seat.

And a MS2 position would be really helpful during launch. I will add it.

We already have an MS2/FE position. Ctrl-Down to access it. The MS2/FE sits in between and behind the CDR, PLT and the center panel console.

The MS1 seat is directly behind the PLT seat.

 

[Urwumpe]

We already have an MS2/FE position. Ctrl-Down to access it. The MS2/FE sits in between and behind the CDR, PLT and the center panel console.

The MS1 seat is directly behind the PLT seat.

http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/sts107/crewseat.htm

I think this disagrees.

EDIT: This seating also makes more sense - how else should the MS2 reach the important switches on R13U or the forth CRT during launch?

 

[DaveS]

http://www-pao.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/countdown/sts107/crewseat.htm

I think this disagrees.

Nope. Kalpana Chawla was MS2/FE on STS-107. Who sits in the seat behind the PLT is different for ascent and entry.

On STS-107 Dave Brown was in that seat for ascent while Laurel Clark was in it for the entry.

Source: http://spaceflight.nasa.gov/shuttle/archives/sts-107/crew/seats.html

 

[DaveS]

EDIT: This seating also makes more sense - how else should the MS2 reach the important switches on R13U or the forth CRT during launch?

That fourth CRT isn't used during ascent/entry. It's used for on-orbit ops, same thing with R13U.

 

[Urwumpe]

That fourth CRT isn't used during ascent/entry. It's used for on-orbit ops, same thing with R13U.

R13U contains the primary caution and warning display indicators, I doubt it is only used for on-Orbit ops - or are informations about the APUs or Air data probes important on Orbit?

No information on the fourth CRT yet, but I think it displays a GNC system summary during launch. I take a look into the switch config for ingress and handover( = lift-off)

EDIT: Its on, but displays SM, which means it is showing no data until one GPC is loaded with SM software.

 

[DaveS]

R13U contains the primary caution and warning display indicators, I doubt it is only used for on-Orbit ops - or are informations about the APUs or Air data probes important on Orbit?

As far as I know, there's no C&W matrix on panel R13U. The C&W matrix is on panel F7.

 

[Donamy]

That CRT is used to check the status of the payload bay door latches for one thing.

 

[Urwumpe]

As far as I know, there's no C&W matrix on panel R13U. The C&W matrix is on panel F7.

There is a 120 LED C&W matrix for displaying all hardware C&W.

EDIT: I just finished some paper modelling... a paper model of the post-insertion checklist...