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I'm attempting to create a lunar XR-2 mission, with sufficient fuel to return to earth w/o re-fueling on the moon. I'm taking off from SRC Space Port.
I've attached a JATO pack, and five fuel pods using velcro. I've had success with a similar mission profile using the XR-1. On the Xr-1 I get a kick-in-the-rear takeoff, so much so that I need to be really careful about getting my landing gear up before they're damaged.
It seems that I'm getting no thrust from the jatos on takeoff in the XR-2. I've tested, and the takeoff distance is virtually the same with or without the jato attached. Any fixes? Here's the scenario file, just so you can see what I'm dealing with.
XR2-01:XR2Ravenstar
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 101.5962230 0.4892000
HEADING 90
RCSMODE 0
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000
IDS 0:199 100
NAVFREQ 588 466 84 114
XPDR 193
SECONDARY_HUD 3
LAST_ACTIVE_SECONDARY_HUD 0
ADCTRL_MODE 7
TAKEOFF_LANDING_CALLOUTS 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
APU_FUEL_QTY 0.988
LOX_QTY 0.999642
CABIN_O2_LEVEL 0.209
CREW_STATE 0
INTERNAL_SYSTEMS_FAILURE 0
COGSHIFT_MODES 0 0 0
MWS_ACTIVE 0
COOLANT_TEMP 32.435
DMG_0 1.000000 Left Wing
DMG_1 1.000000 Right Wing
DMG_2 1.000000 Left Aileron
DMG_3 1.000000 Right Aileron
DMG_4 1.000000 Landing Gear
DMG_5 1.000000 Nosecone
DMG_6 1.000000 Retro Doors
DMG_7 1.000000 Top Hatch
DMG_8 1.000000 Radiator
DMG_9 1.000000 Airbrake
DMG_10 1.000000 Left Main Engine
DMG_11 1.000000 Right Main Engine
DMG_12 1.000000 Left SCRAM Engine
DMG_13 1.000000 Right SCRAM Engine
DMG_14 1.000000 Fore Hover Engine
DMG_15 1.000000 Aft Hover Engine
DMG_16 1.000000 Left Retro Engine
DMG_17 1.000000 Right Retro Engine
DMG_18 1.000000 Forward Lower RCS
DMG_19 1.000000 Aft Upper RCS
DMG_20 1.000000 Forward Upper RCS
DMG_21 1.000000 Aft Lower RCS
DMG_22 1.000000 Forward Star. RCS
DMG_23 1.000000 Aft Port RCS
DMG_24 1.000000 Forward Port RCS
DMG_25 1.000000 Aft Star. RCS
DMG_26 1.000000 Outboard Upper Port RCS
DMG_27 1.000000 Outboard Lower Star. RCS
DMG_28 1.000000 Outboard Upper Star. RCS
DMG_29 1.000000 Outboard Lower Port RCS
DMG_30 1.000000 Aft RCS
DMG_31 1.000000 Forward RCS
DMG_32 1.000000 Bay Doors
IS_CRASHED 0
MET_STARTING_MJD -1.000000
INTERVAL1_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
INTERVAL2_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
MET_RUNNING 0
INTERVAL1_RUNNING 0
INTERVAL2_RUNNING 0
ACTIVE_MDM 3
TEMP_SCALE 2
CUSTOM_AUTOPILOT_MODE 0
AIRSPEED_HOLD_ENGAGED 0
SCRAM0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
SCRAM1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
HOVER_BALANCE 0.000
MAIN0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
MAIN1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
GIMBAL_BUTTON_STATES 0 0 0 0 0 0
ATTITUDE_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 0.000000 0 0 0.000000
DESCENT_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 -3.000000 0
AIRSPEED_HOLD_DATA 0.000000
OVERRIDE_INTERLOCKS 0 0
TERTIARY_HUD_ON 1
CREW_DISPLAY_INDEX 0
GEAR 1 1.0000
RCOVER 0 0.0000
NOSECONE 0 0.0000
AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
IAIRLOCK 0 0.0000
CHAMBER 0 0.0000
AIRBRAKE 0 0.0000
RADIATOR 0 0.0000
HATCH 0 0.0000
SCRAM_DOORS 0 0.0000
HOVER_DOORS 0 0.0000
BAY_DOORS 0 0.0000
APU_STATUS 1
EXTCOOLING_STATUS 0
TRIM 0.000
LIGHTS 0 0 0
XRUMMU_CREW_DATA_VALID 1
UMMUCREW XI0-Lee_Nash-39-65-78
UMMUCREW XI1-Kara_Miller-32-65-58
UMMUCREW XI2-Sharon_Valerii-26-67-54
UMMUCREW XI3-Cameron_Mitchell-36-65-77
UMMUCREW XI4-Samantha_Carter-33-66-53
UMMUCREW XI5-Daniel_Jackson-35-68-75
UMMUCREW XI6-Teal_c-31-64-104
UMMUCREW XI7-Vala_Mal_Doran-30-67-53
UMMUCREW XI8-Elizabeth_Weir-36-68-56
UMMUCREW XI9-John_Sheppard-34-64-77
UMMUCREW XI10-Rodney_McKay-35-72-90
UMMUCREW XI11-Teyla_Emmagan-27-68-57
UMMUCREW XI12-Ronon_Dex-32-63-97
UMMUCREW XI13-Carson_Beckett-38-74-95
PAYLOAD_SCREENS_DATA 0.2 0 1 1
END
JATO:Velcro/JATO
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870733.69 2313168.16 -5195952.76
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
PARALLELBURN 1 XR2-01 0.0000 -1.0000 -4.2500 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
END
Tank0:Velcro/DropTank1000gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.30 2313167.34 -5195950.87
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 1.0000 0 0.0000 -0.7500 -0.1000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon0 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 -0.10 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank1:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.05 2313162.55 -5195953.63
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.222
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 0.5000 0 5.5000 -0.3500 -0.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon1 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank2:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.01 2313172.61 -5195949.18
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 1.0000 0 -5.5000 -0.3500 -0.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon2 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank3:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870735.37 2313161.61 -5195955.23
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.222
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 0.5000 0 7.0000 -0.1500 -2.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon3 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank4:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870735.31 2313174.41 -5195949.56
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 xr2-01 1.0000 0 -7.0000 -0.1500 -2.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon4 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
-----Post Added-----
Fixed my problem. After a few hours of diddling with the .scn files and changing some settings, I simply put the JATO pack before the XR-2 in the .scn file. Simple solution to a problem that is probably way too complex for me to understand.
I've attached a JATO pack, and five fuel pods using velcro. I've had success with a similar mission profile using the XR-1. On the Xr-1 I get a kick-in-the-rear takeoff, so much so that I need to be really careful about getting my landing gear up before they're damaged.
It seems that I'm getting no thrust from the jatos on takeoff in the XR-2. I've tested, and the takeoff distance is virtually the same with or without the jato attached. Any fixes? Here's the scenario file, just so you can see what I'm dealing with.
XR2-01:XR2Ravenstar
STATUS Landed Earth
POS 101.5962230 0.4892000
HEADING 90
RCSMODE 0
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000 1:1.000 2:1.000
IDS 0:199 100
NAVFREQ 588 466 84 114
XPDR 193
SECONDARY_HUD 3
LAST_ACTIVE_SECONDARY_HUD 0
ADCTRL_MODE 7
TAKEOFF_LANDING_CALLOUTS 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
APU_FUEL_QTY 0.988
LOX_QTY 0.999642
CABIN_O2_LEVEL 0.209
CREW_STATE 0
INTERNAL_SYSTEMS_FAILURE 0
COGSHIFT_MODES 0 0 0
MWS_ACTIVE 0
COOLANT_TEMP 32.435
DMG_0 1.000000 Left Wing
DMG_1 1.000000 Right Wing
DMG_2 1.000000 Left Aileron
DMG_3 1.000000 Right Aileron
DMG_4 1.000000 Landing Gear
DMG_5 1.000000 Nosecone
DMG_6 1.000000 Retro Doors
DMG_7 1.000000 Top Hatch
DMG_8 1.000000 Radiator
DMG_9 1.000000 Airbrake
DMG_10 1.000000 Left Main Engine
DMG_11 1.000000 Right Main Engine
DMG_12 1.000000 Left SCRAM Engine
DMG_13 1.000000 Right SCRAM Engine
DMG_14 1.000000 Fore Hover Engine
DMG_15 1.000000 Aft Hover Engine
DMG_16 1.000000 Left Retro Engine
DMG_17 1.000000 Right Retro Engine
DMG_18 1.000000 Forward Lower RCS
DMG_19 1.000000 Aft Upper RCS
DMG_20 1.000000 Forward Upper RCS
DMG_21 1.000000 Aft Lower RCS
DMG_22 1.000000 Forward Star. RCS
DMG_23 1.000000 Aft Port RCS
DMG_24 1.000000 Forward Port RCS
DMG_25 1.000000 Aft Star. RCS
DMG_26 1.000000 Outboard Upper Port RCS
DMG_27 1.000000 Outboard Lower Star. RCS
DMG_28 1.000000 Outboard Upper Star. RCS
DMG_29 1.000000 Outboard Lower Port RCS
DMG_30 1.000000 Aft RCS
DMG_31 1.000000 Forward RCS
DMG_32 1.000000 Bay Doors
IS_CRASHED 0
MET_STARTING_MJD -1.000000
INTERVAL1_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
INTERVAL2_ELAPSED_TIME -1.000000
MET_RUNNING 0
INTERVAL1_RUNNING 0
INTERVAL2_RUNNING 0
ACTIVE_MDM 3
TEMP_SCALE 2
CUSTOM_AUTOPILOT_MODE 0
AIRSPEED_HOLD_ENGAGED 0
SCRAM0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
SCRAM1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
HOVER_BALANCE 0.000
MAIN0DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
MAIN1DIR 0.000000 0.000000 1.000000
GIMBAL_BUTTON_STATES 0 0 0 0 0 0
ATTITUDE_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 0.000000 0 0 0.000000
DESCENT_HOLD_DATA 0.000000 -3.000000 0
AIRSPEED_HOLD_DATA 0.000000
OVERRIDE_INTERLOCKS 0 0
TERTIARY_HUD_ON 1
CREW_DISPLAY_INDEX 0
GEAR 1 1.0000
RCOVER 0 0.0000
NOSECONE 0 0.0000
AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
IAIRLOCK 0 0.0000
CHAMBER 0 0.0000
AIRBRAKE 0 0.0000
RADIATOR 0 0.0000
HATCH 0 0.0000
SCRAM_DOORS 0 0.0000
HOVER_DOORS 0 0.0000
BAY_DOORS 0 0.0000
APU_STATUS 1
EXTCOOLING_STATUS 0
TRIM 0.000
LIGHTS 0 0 0
XRUMMU_CREW_DATA_VALID 1
UMMUCREW XI0-Lee_Nash-39-65-78
UMMUCREW XI1-Kara_Miller-32-65-58
UMMUCREW XI2-Sharon_Valerii-26-67-54
UMMUCREW XI3-Cameron_Mitchell-36-65-77
UMMUCREW XI4-Samantha_Carter-33-66-53
UMMUCREW XI5-Daniel_Jackson-35-68-75
UMMUCREW XI6-Teal_c-31-64-104
UMMUCREW XI7-Vala_Mal_Doran-30-67-53
UMMUCREW XI8-Elizabeth_Weir-36-68-56
UMMUCREW XI9-John_Sheppard-34-64-77
UMMUCREW XI10-Rodney_McKay-35-72-90
UMMUCREW XI11-Teyla_Emmagan-27-68-57
UMMUCREW XI12-Ronon_Dex-32-63-97
UMMUCREW XI13-Carson_Beckett-38-74-95
PAYLOAD_SCREENS_DATA 0.2 0 1 1
END
JATO:Velcro/JATO
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870733.69 2313168.16 -5195952.76
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
PARALLELBURN 1 XR2-01 0.0000 -1.0000 -4.2500 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
END
Tank0:Velcro/DropTank1000gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.30 2313167.34 -5195950.87
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 1.0000 0 0.0000 -0.7500 -0.1000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon0 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 -0.10 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank1:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.05 2313162.55 -5195953.63
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.222
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 0.5000 0 5.5000 -0.3500 -0.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon1 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank2:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870737.01 2313172.61 -5195949.18
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 1.0000 0 -5.5000 -0.3500 -0.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon2 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank3:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870735.37 2313161.61 -5195955.23
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.222
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 XR2-01 0.5000 0 7.0000 -0.1500 -2.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon3 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
Tank4:Velcro/DropTank500gal
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 2870735.31 2313174.41 -5195949.56
RVEL 412.941 -82.947 191.221
AROT -23.45 -63.22 89.51
NAVFREQ 21 50
CONFIGURATION 0
PRIMEBOOSTER 0
CENTERTHRUST 0
IGNITENEXT 0
JETT_ON_MECO 0
PADBIAS 1.00
TGT_HEADING 90.00
CROSSFEED 1 xr2-01 1.0000 0 -7.0000 -0.1500 -2.6000 0.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000 -1.0000 0.0000
PAYLOAD pylon4 velcro/parts/pylon velcro/parts/pylon 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.10 0.00 1.00
END
-----Post Added-----
Fixed my problem. After a few hours of diddling with the .scn files and changing some settings, I simply put the JATO pack before the XR-2 in the .scn file. Simple solution to a problem that is probably way too complex for me to understand.
