Installation Orbiter 2016 with D3D9 CTD in all scenarios

[DaveS]

Hi again,
nice to hear that this puzzling issue is solved now!:thumbup:

But it does seem that the decimal-separator alone might not be the root-cause, because on my system ("de-DE") the separator is also different (comma [,] instead of point [.]) and I have no problems...
But I've only tested with Orbiter BETA, so it might still be needed to change that for Orbiter 2016.

I wonder if it has anything do with char sets. Could Orbiter/DX be calling non-existent characters in eastern language sets? So when it it's one of those, the result is a CTD with no explain in the logs?

 

[kuddel]

Could be... D3D9Client (at least the 2016 Version) is not build for wide-character sets, so that might be an issue. But as the Orbiter API also is 8-bit characters it would be a big impact to change it...
And it would be almost impossible for me to test
To get to the root-cause, maybe the OP could try and change only the decimal-separator. If that fixes the issue, we at least know that this alone is the culprit.
If not...I think there's not much I can do about it, as debugging is almost impossible without having a "Traditional Chinese" System.

 

[GLS]

I only mentioned the "." and "," as it sometimes causes problems... could be totally unrelated to this issue. :shrug:

 

[Cosmic Penguin]

Hi again,
nice to hear that this puzzling issue is solved now!:thumbup:

But it does seem that the decimal-separator alone might not be the root-cause, because on my system ("de-DE") the separator is also different (comma [,] instead of point [.]) and I have no problems...
But I've only tested with Orbiter BETA, so it might still be needed to change that for Orbiter 2016.

Here we always uses the decimal point [.] given the British ruling days, but as far as I know no-one on this side of the world actually uses the comma as decimal point.

 

[Marijn]

..but as far as I know no-one on this side of the world actually uses the comma as decimal point.

Pretty much every country in Europe which is on the Eastern Hemisphere uses comma's to separate decimals. Russia too, as well as many African countries. Check this map:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a8/DecimalSeparator.svg

Blue=dot
Green=comma
Cyan=both
Red=apostrophe

 

[kuddel]

Here we always uses the decimal point [.] given the British ruling days, but as far as I know no-one on this side of the world actually uses the comma as decimal point.

So the "Traditional Chinese" also used the dot?
If that's the case it must be some other root-cause.
As changing the locale to "English" most likely also changes many other things that influence parsing (Numbers, direction, etc. pp.), the real root cause might be any of those many parameters.
Unfortunately this makes it even more unlikely that this might be fixed in D3D9Client or/and Orbiter core.

But as we have a "fix" for this issue, it is not urgent.

/Kuddel