BETA Release OglaClient Beta 091029

lockingtoggle · Oct 29, 2009

Artlav said:
Is there any combination where shadows work (besides turning on the engine)?

None that I could find.

While playing around with the settings, I also noticed that the options selected on the "OGLAClient features configuration" are not read.
I mean, even if I change the setting on the "OGLAClient features configuration" window from "low stencil" to "high", once in the sim, the shadow is still set to "low". I need to quit and restart the sim to have it set to what I chosed.

I do have a short wish list for the network client:

1. An option to remove all extra information (MFD, cam, date, all stuff) and keep only the scenery. It will solve many issues I have with my simpit.

2. An option to set the window size.

Artlav · Oct 29, 2009

lockingtoggle said:
While playing around with the settings, I also noticed that the options selected on the "OGLAClient features configuration" are not read.

Yes, the visual tab setting are re-read after a restart of launchpad, to be fixed.
Why not use F7 menu?

lockingtoggle said:
1. An option to remove all extra information (MFD, cam, date, all stuff) and keep only the scenery. It will solve many issues I have with my simpit.

Ok, if i ever continue on it.

lockingtoggle said:
2. An option to set the window size.

The server one? Can be done.

lockingtoggle · Oct 29, 2009

Artlav said:
Why not use F7 menu?

I do use it. Was just testing.

Artlav said:
Ok, if i ever continue on it.

I hope you will. It can solve so many problems for the pit builders.

Artlav said:
The server one?

For the client.

Artlav · Oct 29, 2009

lockingtoggle said:
For the client.

It doesn't resize?
What do you mean by "An option to set the window size" then?

lockingtoggle · Oct 29, 2009

Artlav said:
It doesn't resize?
What do you mean by "An option to set the window size" then?

It does resize, but it starts on 800x600 I guess, I need it to start say on 1280x600.

Artlav · Oct 29, 2009

lockingtoggle said:
It does resize, but it starts on 800x600 I guess, I need it to start say on 1280x600.

Uh... You can't resize it to some given size? What is "starts on"?

lockingtoggle · Oct 29, 2009

Artlav said:
Uh... You can't resize it to some given size? What is "starts on"?

I plan to use two PCs, one for the server where I plan to display only instruments and controls, and another PC for the network client where I plan to display only the scenery. Of course I can resize the scenery each time, but it would be nice not to have to.

Artlav · Oct 29, 2009

lockingtoggle said:
I plan to use two PCs, one for the server where I plan to display only instruments and controls, and another PC for the network client where I plan to display only the scenery. Of course I can resize the scenery each time, but it would be nice not to have to.

Oh, default size for the window? Will be.

lockingtoggle · Oct 29, 2009

Artlav said:
Oh, default size for the window? Will be.

Yup, I should have said that right from the begining

Thanks.

Biscuit · Oct 29, 2009

The target popup window is now readable. Woohoo!

The extra display info that Kulch's Energia gives doesn't show up ... but I don't know if this is a problem with Energia or OGLA ... either way it's not a crisis.

Looking good so far.

... now I just need to save up enough money to upgrade my machine so I can display terrain at better than 1 frame per second.

Artlav · Oct 29, 2009

Update 091029-a:
http://orbides.1gb.ru/orbf/oglaclient-091029-a_beta-091020.zip
Install over Orbiter beta 091029.

Fixes and improvements since 091029:
*Permanent ATI BSOD solution with proper MFD's
*Potential all lit/all yellow bug fix

The main issue to be tested in this beta is the old ATI BSOD/lockup bug, which should now be configurably solved and the MFD's should work properly at the same time.

The rules are the same: if you have an ATI GPU, and the OGLAClient lock up/BSOD the driver in VC's or "Moon view from Habana" scenario, then set the power-of-two limit in the visual tab config menu (or Non-pot_limit to 1 in cfg file).
That should be fixing the the lockup, while also preserving the MFD's now.

If it does not lock up, or you have an Nvidia/Intel/whatever, then do not enable POT limit, as it still could produce some peripheral garbage.

Remaining known bugs, issues and plans:
-Add particle streams
-Lightweight Lv9+ planet rendering (non-Orulex)
-Orulex terrain seams
-Make planetary shine angle-dependent (dawn, sunset)
-Smooth night side light/dark transition
-Documentation!

Remaining unconfirmed issues:
-ATI and shadows=gray dark sides (?)
-Weird Saturn bug (?)
-Weird yellow bug (?)
-Shadows distortion bug (?)

-Fix GDI panels halving (core?)

If you know or found an OGLAClient bug that is not on the list, or tested the beta and found that some of the bugs llisted as fixed are actually not, please provide feedback.

Biscuit said:
The extra display info that Kulch's Energia gives doesn't show up

Naturally, i would guess - it's a GDI-heavy HUD, which is beyond the OGLA's GDI emulation capabilities.

DjZielony · Oct 29, 2009

Hm, there is a problem with wine. Orbiter 2009 with dx7 plugin doesn't accept keyboard input, and with OGLA it just won't run Orbiter_ng.exe if you could fix it, it would be nice. There is nothing in Wine output at all. (Wine 1.1.27)

Coolhand · Oct 30, 2009

artlav, are you still adding support for GLSL? or is that possible already?

DaveS · Oct 30, 2009

Bug: Below 11 m in ground observer camera mode, the stock LC-39 pad disappears. Confirmed in a clean 091029 Orbiter install with OGLA 091029-a. This only happens in the OGLA cleint, not in the DX7 client.

Biscuit · Oct 30, 2009

Using the DGEX with a URMS attached, it seems to work normally in the D3D7 client ... (as shown in the attached jpg D3D7-client.jpg) ...

But, it shows up oddly in the OGLA client (OGLA-client.jpg).

It's picking up the texture of the next vehicle (the URMS) ... if I delete the URMS from the scenario, Orbiter crashes on startup.

If I remove all ships except the DGex, it looks like it's picking up a texture from the 2D panel (OGLA-DGex-only.jpg). (?!) :lol:

Also, in the OGLA client, the mesh of the center rear wheel set rotates on an odd angle.

The scenario, if it helps:

Code:

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Also attached, if it makes any difference (and just in case I've screwed it up badly) is my texture for the DGex body. I've tried saving it as a DXT1, DXT3, and DXT5 .dds formats, with no change in the results (currently saved as DXT3).

Also tried turning on the "Power-of-two limit" option ... I didn't have a problem before, but I have an ATI Radeon card so I tried it just in case. No change.

... I don't know if this is something screwy with the DGex in particular, or if it's a problem in OGLA ... but I just thought I'd bring it to your attention.

Thanks much!
-Biscuit

Artlav · Oct 30, 2009

DjZielony said:
Hm, there is a problem with wine. Orbiter 2009 with dx7 plugin doesn't accept keyboard input, and with OGLA it just won't run Orbiter_ng.exe if you could fix it, it would be nice. There is nothing in Wine output at all. (Wine 1.1.27)

Keyboard input problem is an old one, no fix known. And, OGLA+ng always worked well in Wine, what exactly "just won't run Orbiter_ng.exe" mean?
Have you tried this guide: http://orbides.1gb.ru/ogla.php ?

Coolhand said:
artlav, are you still adding support for GLSL? or is that possible already?

In what sense? GLSL is being used for years already.
If you mean custom GLSL by add-ons, then no and unlikely to in the near time.

DaveS said:
Bug: Below 11 m in ground observer camera mode, the stock LC-39 pad disappears.

More precisely, KSC disappear, being behind the sphere of the Earth. Fixed.

Biscuit said:
Using the DGEX with a URMS attached, it seems to work normally in the D3D7 client ...
But, it shows up oddly in the OGLA client

if I delete the URMS from the scenario, Orbiter crashes on startup.

One thing certain - the spacecraft3 "DGex_arm" caused a nasty crash it won't cause again.
As for the skin texture - no idea, it seems to be loaded fine, but something prevents it from being applied.
No call for texture swap is made, so it's likely that DGEx don't play fair with the mesh.

Biscuit · Oct 30, 2009

Artlav said:
...
One thing certain - the spacecraft3 "DGex_arm" caused a nasty crash it won't cause again.
As for the skin texture - no idea, it seems to be loaded fine, but something prevents it from being applied.
No call for texture swap is made, so it's likely that DGEx don't play fair with the mesh.

I don't use the DGex_arm ... I use Kulch's URMS ... I think it's easier to control ... and more of a standard if I use it across all the ships.

The DGex is the only ship I have this problem with (that I've run into so far) ...

I figured the problem was most likely there (in the DGex) ... but, still, just thought I'd bring it up in case you were interested. Anyway, thanks for looking.

DaveS · Oct 30, 2009

Concerning the sunrise/sunset effect. I have attached two screenshots dealing with this subject. The first one is the sunrise in the DX7 client while the second is the same scene from the OGLA client.

Notice nice effect on the shuttle in the DX7 screenshot. And then compare it to the OGLA screenshot, which is devoid of that effect. For me the sunrise in OGLA was a disappointment, no effect other than both the stack and pad blinked between lit/unlit until it settled on the correct mode.

Fixerger · Oct 30, 2009

I agree.

Zachstar · Oct 30, 2009

Artlav had some shader issues testing it on the 7300GT. Tho the card does far better with the DX7 client anyway so its a nonissue in my view.

Shaders on the DG would go in and out mostly a "ghost" like appearance. Slow FPS

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