News Contact lost with 777-200ER of Malaysia Airlines

[statickid]

Desmond forgot to enter The Numbers.

:lol: this was exactly my first thought, now considering all things, I'm still leaning this way

 

[Cairan]

My own speculation, maybe it was a test run for another larger plot, à la [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippine_Airlines_Flight_434"]Philippine Airlines Flight 434 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[MattBaker]

The Malaysian Military has confirmed to Reuters, that the aircraft turned around and was last seen in the Strait of Malacca at a lower altitude.

Uh, if it would land in the Strait of Malacca they probably would have found it by now, no?


Also the names of the two invalid passport users were revealed, one is confirmed to be an Iranian who's mother lives in Frankfurt and the other one seems to be one of his buddies.
So seems like they were not responsible for all of this but just in the wrong plane to try to get into the EU.

And the allegations of passengers who checked in but didn't board the plane seem to be untrue, too. Four booked passengers didn't even show up for check-in, but everyone who knows about overbooking knows that this is normal.

 

[ISProgram]

garyw posted on 3/10 an image that showed a search area in the Malacca Straight region. What information did authorities have that would cause them to search an area that far away and that far off course? If the map is laid out due north, I don't think a heading of 333deg would put it in that area.

As morbid as it may sound, I'm really very interested in hearing the rest of this story. Fair skies and tailwinds for the souls on board.


In my opinion the aircraft suffered from structural failure due to either..

A) Mechanical breakdown
B) Terrorist plot
C) Accidental (or deliberate) shootdown

Perhaps there was somebody or something on the aircraft that wasn't to be allowed to land in China.

Shooting down an airliner filled with your own citizens?

I don't believe it

EDIT: sorry, forgot this isn't the basement.

I never said it was the Chinese.

My previous wasn't meant to be taken seriously, since I mentioned the "bunny", otherwise completely unrelated to this thread. I apologize for that, as it was meant (and is) purely speculative.

In another direction, I just realized that the black boxes haven't sent a signal at all yet, which is kind of sinister. It means whatever happened to the plane was castatrophic and sudden enough to incapacitate or destroy (the boxes). Of course, this isn't necessarily true.

...if the plane lost power for a long enough time and crashed (before a RAT or APU kicked in, one of which the 777 might not have), could this account for this communication silence from the plane? Though it wouldn't explain the black boxes, since they have a internal power source.

...I'm becoming increasingly convinced a black triangle is indeed responsible.

 

[Urwumpe]

In another direction, I just realized that the black boxes haven't sent a signal at all yet, which is kind of sinister. It means whatever happened to the plane was castatrophic and sudden enough to incapacitate or destroy (the boxes). Of course, this isn't necessarily true.

The sonic signal of the black boxes can only be detected if you are in the right ocean and pretty close to the target. It is no 8000W spherical sonar.

 

[JSwift]

Who knows how valid this may be, but some interesting quotes from a Malaysian air force official:

...Malaysia’s Berita Harian newspaper quoted air force chief Rodzali Daud as saying the Malaysia Airlines plane was last detected by military radar at 2:40 a.m. on Saturday, near the island of Pulau Perak at the northern end of the Strait of Malacca. It was flying at a height of about 9,000 metres, he was quoted as saying...

...The time given by Rodzali was an hour and 10 minutes after the plane vanished from air traffic control screens over Igari waypoint, midway between Malaysia and Vietnam...

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...er-vanishing-military-source/article17422660/

 

[ISProgram]

The sonic signal of the black boxes can only be detected if you are in the right ocean and pretty close to the target. It is no 8000W spherical sonar.

In that case, the wreckage must not be close to the areas where they are searching. A valid assumption to make, given the reports that have been recently coming out that say the plane was in areas it should not have been and the fact that the SAR operations are also expanding their search to areas where the plane could have reached (independent of whether or not it should have been there)...and more so.

Also relevant...(expands on a few theories posted on the thread, such a terrorism, catastrophic failure, etc)

Also relevant, China has deployed satellites to help with SARS operations.

 

[Zatnikitelman]

In that case, the wreckage must not be close to the areas where they are searching. A valid assumption to make, given the reports that have been recently coming out that say the plane was in areas it should not have been and the fact that the SAR operations are also expanding their search to areas where the plane could have reached (independent of whether or not it should have been there)...and more so.

Also relevant...(expands on a few theories posted on the thread, such a terrorism, catastrophic failure, etc)

Also relevant, China has deployed satellites to help with SARS operations.

A poster on another forum apparently was a submariner and did some anti-submarine warfare at least in exercise. Suffice to say, he knows the challenges of locating something in water, and apparently, the shallow water of the area is pretty bad for being able to locate a noise source. And that's in ideal conditions. He didn't give a dissertation on undersea sonar operations, but I don't believe it's time to call for a conspiracy just yet. Those beacons are supposed to run for something like 30 days, and it's been 3.

 

[Urwumpe]

A poster on another forum apparently was a submariner and did some anti-submarine warfare at least in exercise. Suffice to say, he knows the challenges of locating something in water, and apparently, the shallow water of the area is pretty bad for being able to locate a noise source. And that's in ideal conditions. He didn't give a dissertation on undersea sonar operations, but I don't believe it's time to call for a conspiracy just yet. Those beacons are supposed to run for something like 30 days, and it's been 3.

It is rather the muddy/sandy underground, that absorbs noise more than it reflects it.

 

[MaverickSawyer]

Combine that with a lot of small craft traffic, shallow waters, and oddball currents from the amount of water entering the Gulf from rivers, it's a sonar tech's nightmare in there.

 

[Screamer7]

This incident get's weirder by the hour.

It now appeared that the aircraft turn back, lowering it's altitude and vanished about a 1000 feet above sea level over the Malacca Strait, west of Malaysia!

It was flying in a south westerly direction at a very low altitude, almost in the opposite direction it's suppose to travel, to reach Beijing.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-26527439

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/03/11/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

http://news.sky.com/story/1223813/malaysia-jet-search-scaled-back-by-vietnam

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b&opt=0

There are now even more bizarre news, how true this I do not know, but relatives of the passengers of flight MH-370 claimed that the cell phones of the missing passengers are ringing when dialed??!!??

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/missing-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh370-passengers-mobile-phones-ring-not-answered-1439560

 

[astrosammy]

Anyone remembering/using Galaxy Zoo?

DigitalGlobe has something like it for satellite imagery, and is using it now:
http://www.tomnod.com/nod/challenge/malaysiaairsar2014
Of course it only can help if the plane is in the area their imagery is covering and is visible from above...

They seem to have a lot of traffic, so it doesn't work that good right now.

 

[Hielor]

This incident get's weirder by the hour.

It now appeared that the aircraft turn back, lowering it's altitude and vanished about a 1000 feet above sea level over the Malacca Strait, west of Malaysia!

It was flying in a south westerly direction at a very low altitude, almost in the opposite direction it's suppose to travel, to reach Beijing.

http://www.bbc.com/n...d-asia-26527439

http://edition.cnn.c....html?hpt=hp_t1

http://news.sky.com/...iles-off-course

http://avherald.com/...=4710c69b&opt=0

There are now even more bizarre news, how true this I do not know, but relatives of the passengers of flight MH-370 claimed that the cell phones of the missing passengers are ringing when dialed??!!??

http://www.ibtimes.c...nswered-1439560

Your links are all broken...

Also, the "ringing" you hear when you call a cell phone isn't like the ringing when calling a landline--doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually ringing on the other end, I think.

 

[Quick_Nick]

Indeed, cell phones frequently give you a ringing sound before any connection is made.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mi...es-passengers-phones-ringing-maybe-not-n49371

 

[Melvin]

A conspiracy of silence from the local authorities since day one. This case just gets stranger by the hour.

 

[MattBaker]

A conspiracy of silence from the local authorities since day one. This case just gets stranger by the hour.

This is simply not true. There are regular press conferences about the latest state of the whole situation. The reason you are hearing silence is because you want to hear it, don't give a damn and can't be bothered to spend a bit of time per day to get these information.

Oh no, an aviation incident isn't solved after not even a week, must be a cover-up by the evil *insert favorite enemy here*!

 

[Screamer7]

Your links are all broken...

Sorry about that, my bad.
I fixed the links and should working now.

 

[Einion Yrth]

Oh no, an aviation incident isn't solved after not even a week, must be a cover-up by the evil *insert favorite enemy here*!

Greys? Lizards? Nordics?

 

[Urwumpe]

No the report of the last position in the Strait of Malacca is officially denied. There was no such observation.

 

[jedidia]

Also, the "ringing" you hear when you call a cell phone isn't like the ringing when calling a landline--doesn't necessarily mean that it's actually ringing on the other end, I think.

No, but it usually means that the phone at the other end is on air, I think. At least I get a "participant not available" if someone has their phone shut down or is in a place without connection (happens rather frequently in Bosnia).