Caspian Airlines Flight 7908 crash, from a new perspective

[Turbinator]

This is a video of the final moments of the Caspian Airlines Flight 7908, as recorded from a C-130 camera, that happened to be near.
All 153 passengers and 15 crew on board died.

The plane was a Tupolev Tu-154.

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[garyw]

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspian_Airlines_Flight_7908"]Wiki link to the crash[/ame] According to that the crash was due to engine failure but I've never seen a plane tumble so due to an engine failure. That video is horrific when you think about the passengers on board.

 

[Urwumpe]

This video looks pretty different to the reconstruction of the investigation board - the whole tail is missing!

 

[Star Voyager]

It looked like the whole empennage fell off the airplane.

EDIT: Ninja'd by Urwumpe.

 

[Urwumpe]

Wiki link to the crash According to that the crash was due to engine failure but I've never seen a plane tumble so due to an engine failure. That video is horrific when you think about the passengers on board.

It tumbles because the whole tail section is missing and it is leaking lots of jet fuel. That was possibly an engine failure at one point, but went critically worse.

 

[Eli13]

It's just unreal. I wonder if anyone in that phantom had any idea. I wonder how many of them were blacked out before they even hit the ground. Its hard to watch it a second time.

 

[RisingFury]

Oh my! Is that plane missing a tail?!

I've seen RC planes with no tail tumble in a similar way...

 

[Urwumpe]

It's just unreal. I wonder if anyone in that phantom had any idea. I wonder how many of them were blacked out before they even hit the ground. Its hard to watch it a second time.

I watched it three times now. I doubt the passengers had been awake during the final seconds, the whole hull must have had an explosive decompression there.

Maybe the engine failure caused an aft bulkhead failure.

 

[Grover]

why was the C-130 and Phantom so close? it does seem like a coincidence.

that is horrible, imagine if someone was concious during the last few moments, nothing but mad rotation, confusing g-forces and rushing air, you can hear the crew over the radio going mad, it must be hard to have seen that with your own eyes

 

[Eli13]

I watched it three times now. I doubt the passengers had been awake during the final seconds, the whole hull must have had an explosive decompression there.

Maybe the engine failure caused an aft bulkhead failure.

As have I, but I was just emphasizing the fact that its horrendous to think what it would be like.

But that sounds reasonable.

 

[garyw]

why was the C-130 and Phantom so close? it does seem like a coincidence.

Photo opp. That's why the C-130 had the camera. It's been done in the UK with harriers. There is a classic film on youtube where the C-130 photographer asks if the harrier can get any closer so the pilot puts the nose almost into the back and says 'close enough?'.

 

[Grover]

can you Embed it? (joke relating to other thread)

so it WAS just coincidence? in that case, if the C-130 had taken off a few seconds later, it could have been brought down by a falling airliner... and that would have been plastered over the Media

 

[Evil_Onyx]

There seems to be some difference between the official crash report and what is shown in that clip. but then again i am relying on google translate.....

 

[C3PO]

There seems to be some difference between the official crash report and what is shown in that clip. but then again i am relying on google translate.....

The quote on the Wiki page illustrates how reliable eyewitness reports are.

I saw the plane when it was just ... above the ground. Its wheels were out and there was fire blazing from the lower parts. It seemed the pilot was trying to land, and moments later the plane hit the ground, and broke into pieces that were scattered far and wide.

The similarities with the video is underwhelming.

 

[Coolhand]

why was the C-130 and Phantom so close? it does seem like a coincidence.

Did seem strange to me as well, refueling a fighter so close to civilian traffic? however since the video perhaps shows an entirely different crash, one of a military aircraft, maybe its not a coincidence.

does youtuber 'aeronut19' have the answers?

The video actually shows another crash, which happened in September 22, 2009 near Tehran. The plane going down is a IL-76MD Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force, a military plane with seven people on board. All of them were killed.

I haven't checked this out properly, but it would account for unlikely scenario of the footage captured in this way, and all the differences you guys are talking about.

 

[Urwumpe]

No Il-76 in the video. The plane shape fits also not to the Tu-154.

Pay attention to the mostly intact wings... they have a pretty strong sweep and no engine pods. The Il-76 has a typical wing sweep and four (small) engine pods below the wings.

Also, I suspect the plane in the video has no shoulder wing, but I am not 100% sure how to prove it. Since it is completely out of control, it could also fly upside down.

But it also does not look like a Tu-154. The wings are installed too far in front. This was not Flight 7908.

(Also, by the language in the C-130... I am not sure this is Persian, but I don't know any native Persian speaker here)

 

[steph]

According to the youtube comments, the language spoken in the video is Farsi, which wikipedia says is used in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Armenia etc.

 

[Urwumpe]

According to the youtube comments, the language spoken in the video is Farsi, which wikipedia says is used in Iran, Afghanistan, Tajikistan, Armenia etc.

Possible that it is Farsi, it sounds similar to the few sentences of Farsi I have heard.

 

[garyw]

Coolhand is right, This is the Airlines flight 7908. It's an Iranian IL-76MD. It's an AWACS aircraft and the cause of the accident was the radar dome detaching, hitting the tail and removing the tail. This sent the plane into a spin with the results you see on the video.

more info here.

 

[Linguofreak]

Coolhand is right, This is the Airlines flight 7908. It's an Iranian IL-76MD. It's an AWACS aircraft and the cause of the accident was the radar dome detaching, hitting the tail and removing the tail. This sent the plane into a spin with the results you see on the video.

more info here.

The Wikipedia article on that incident mentions a mid-air collision with an F-5.