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So we can go back to the latest D3D9 release?

Yes.

---------- Post added at 08:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 PM ----------

Also the "STS-1 T-45s_SRB FIX" in the testing scenario folder causes CTD. The LC39A:SSU_Pad1985 should be replaced by LC39A:SSU_LC39_1985 I guess

Maybe I'm now the one who needs sleep, but I don't think we (i.e., the repository) have that scenario. But yes, I changed the LC39 vessel (and code) name, so it is consistent with SLC6. So now there is a BaseSSUPad class that has 2 "children" classes and vessels: "LC39" and "SLC6", instead of "Pad" and "SLC6". :rolleyes:
I understand that it can be a PITA now to change scenarios*, but in the long run things will be more organized and there will be less brain power spent on questions like why is this called "A", that "B" and then the other is called "G"???.


*) actually that can be done +/- easily with the Replace function in VS. Backing up the files first is a good idea, as if one messes up there is no "undo" available.
 

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---------- Post added at 08:17 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:08 PM ----------



Maybe I'm now the one who needs sleep, but I don't think we (i.e., the repository) have that scenario. But yes, I changed the LC39 vessel (and code) name, so it is consistent with SLC6. So now there is a BaseSSUPad class that has 2 "children" classes and vessels: "LC39" and "SLC6", instead of "Pad" and "SLC6". :rolleyes:
I understand that it can be a PITA now to change scenarios*, but in the long run things will be more organized and there will be less brain power spent on questions like why is this called "A", that "B" and then the other is called "G"???.


*) actually that can be done +/- easily with the Replace function in VS. Backing up the files first is a good idea, as if one messes up there is no "undo" available.

That s weird... I found the scenario in the folder after I did the last (wrong) recompile from the trunk. Anyway it was useful for me since the original scenario had the SRBs all chopped in segments and rotated 90 degrees (horizontally). Someone created the SRB_FIX scenario and I swear it wasn’t me..
Whoever he/she might be, thanks :thumbup:

Code:
BEGIN_DESC
STS-1: 45 seconds to launch.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 44706.499514
  Context SSU
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship Columbia
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET Columbia
  MODE Extern
  POS 3.31 -0.51 -70.39
  TRACKMODE Ground Earth
  GROUNDLOCATION -80.60282 28.60649 6.14
  GROUNDDIRECTION 121.51 6.82
  FOV 45.00
  BEGIN_PRESET
    Ground:Columbia:45.00:Earth -80.60396 28.60821 31.23 2.40 0.28
    Ground:Columbia:39.82:Earth -80.60385 28.60834 32.56 3.16 0.46
  END_PRESET
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 3
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 4
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 5
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 6
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 7
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 9
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD 10
  TYPE User
  MODE CRT
END_MFD

BEGIN_VC
END_VC

BEGIN_SHIPS
LC39A:[B][COLOR="Red"]SSU_Pad1985[/COLOR][/B]
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6041120 28.6083650
  HEADING 270.00
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
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  GVA 0 0.0000
  VENT_HOOD 0 0.0000
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  IAA 0 0.0000
  RSS 0 0.0000
  RBUS 0 0.0000
  EAST_SRB_SFD 1 1.0000
  WEST_SRB_SFD 1 1.0000
  LCC_NAME LCC
END
MLP-1:SSU_MLP
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6040620 28.6084030
  HEADING 0.00
  ATTACHED 0:0,LC39A
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  T0_UMB 1 1.0000
END
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  STATUS Landed Earth
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  HEADING 35.60
  AFCMODE 7
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  LAUNCH_MJD 44706.500035
  PAD_NAME LC39A
END
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ET:SSU_SWT
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LSRB:SSU_LSRB_RSRM
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RSRB:SSU_RSRB_RSRM
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DFI_pallet:SSU_DFI_Pallet
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BEGIN_ExtMFD
END

That's it (found in Scenarios/Space shuttle Ultra/Testing Scenarios). the file is dated December 17 2018. Does it ring the bell?
 
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That s weird... I found the scenario in the folder after I did the last (wrong) recompile from the trunk. Anyway it was useful for me since the original scenario had the SRBs all chopped in segments and rotated 90 degrees (horizontally). Someone created the SRB_FIX scenario and I swear it wasn’t me..
Whoever he/she might be, thanks :thumbup:

It wasn't me. DaveS is working on the SRBs, but only the RSRMs are finished. As the code had to be changed for the new ones, and the other 2 types use the same code, the look like that.... :shrug:
 

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I re installed D3D9 R3.4 (r1038m)and I still have the PFD graphic problem..:facepalm:
 

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@Wolf: For the Spec 34, you have to enter those three lines ( right of the red marck) with the SimpleGPC subsytem

Sx2Cvd.jpg


you can put whatever target you want which is in the scenario :)
And then Spec 34 works like a charm ( with already a near Hohmann orbit.
100 km from the target less than a degree before interception ( 2 orbit max)
It will give you some coherent Dv and solution
 
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I re installed D3D9 R3.4 (r1038m)and I still have the PFD graphic problem..:facepalm:


Is there anyone else having the same problem or it is just me and Abdullah?
 

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Is there anyone else having the same problem or it is just me and Abdullah?

Totally forgot about this... :facepalm: I'll try to look at it during the afternoon.
 

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r1050 on Orbiter BETA shows no issues... are you running Orbiter 2016?
 

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Does it still happen if you update to the latest D3D9?

I had the issue when r1038m came up, then I went back to a previous version which runs ok. I ll try the latest one and let you know..


Ok, checked with D3D9 R3.5 (latest release) and the MFDs seem to work fine now. Thanks
 
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Just flew a STS-101 docking, and the controls seem to be backward. Can anyone confirm this ?
 

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Just flew a STS-101 docking, and the controls seem to be backward. Can anyone confirm this ?

The translation was changed in SSU 4.x so the keys used "match" the real THC motion... which makes it "backwards" in relation to what orbiter does. Check the manual as I made a few diagrams explaining how to use the different controls.
 

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I had the issue when r1038m came up, then I went back to a previous version which runs ok. I ll try the latest one and let you know..


Ok, checked with D3D9 R3.5 (latest release) and the MFDs seem to work fine now. Thanks

I can confirm it works on the latest version as well.
 

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For Spec 34, I was able to use it efficiently in being sure that those lines ( specifying target ie. ISS or Zarzya or whatever is in the scenario file) are in the scenario:

rSMibg.png



I am using just Orbit MFD and Docking, MFD for the last part, coupled to the RR radar for final approach.

Usually, after OMS 2 and once on stable orbit, I try to create a circular orbit 30 Nm below target orbit.
I try to do burn at apogee/perigee of the target orbit using Orbit MFD for the timing (TIG) of the burns.

The trick here is to have same line of apside, and coplanar orbit (doing some out of plane burn at node to have 0° of RINC)

The good thing about having same perigee and apogee than the target orbit is to be able to read the angular difference between the two body from center of Earth ( difference of phase)
To do it, you can calculate the difference between true anomaly for both object ( it's the angle between perigee and position of the object on its orbit)
You can read it on Orbit Mfd next to TrA.

For example, Shuttle has TrA of 10 and ISS of 20, thus the difference of phase is 10 °.
You are on a lower orbit, so you will catch up ISS, that difference will decrease every orbit.

Here is a graph to calculate by how much of ° you will catch up the target at every revolution.

bcjNtI.jpg


For example, Shuttle is on a circular orbit of 150 Nm of radius and ISS is on 200 NM.

You sum up apogee and perigee for both, Shuttle its 300, ISS 400, you go into the table and you deduce a catch up rate of 8° per revolution.
Our difference was 10 ° in the example above, so in almost one orbit, you will have catch up ISS

It's how you do phasing. You can decrease the rate or increase it by lowering, increasing the orbit of the chaser (Shuttle)

After, it's a bit of experience and try to decide when you will do final insertion burn etc using Spec 34.

You have to raise your orbit around 50000 feet ( 10 Nm) below target ( catch up rate will reduce) and when you are at a few degrees ( you can see it visually on Orbit MFD when both objects are almost at the same position), you can start to enter some specific coordinate and time you want to reach ISS in Spec 34.
For example, a TIG at perigee, DT 45 mn later to do the rendez vous at next apogee, DX 0 DY 0 DZ 0,6 to be just 600 feet below ISS on +Z axis ( R BAR) and then initiate TORVA.

Gonna try to illustrate that with pictures once I am back from work next week.

Hope it's gonna help you !

Honestly, it's really rewarding but it takes time and many tries sometimes

Hi @Gingin ,

Can you elaborate a bit how SPEC 34 is used?

Thanks,

Tim
 
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Hey Tim’, sure . I will do a proper topi about it.


Quick question here. I am looking for a mfd that would give a relative position of shuttle relative to a target ind 2 d like that

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcTuP-fyv5SdZpMGUVjEp9ceBtdpPjwNyBnm0XgFVlFifCfQ-jcq

Don’t know if there is something like that or close to in Orbiter

I was thinking to imfd map with iss in reference and centered mode to have relative position of others chasers

If you refer to the rendezvous phase there is RPOP MFD, great tool which replicates RPOP performed by the shuttle crews with their laptops onvoard. Too bad it does not work with O2016 and the author left the community years ago..
 
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