Question Recreating the Apollo Shininess

[Mr. Residuals]

Hi,
I have a question, so I am wondering how you can make the Apollo capsule look more like the photo seen bellow. (Look bellow) I was trying to make the CSM look more realisitic in turn, the capsule became red.
PHOTO 2:

 

[4throck]

You can get that effect using the D3D9 debug settings. Select that mesh group and use the Metalness shader.
Try values for Smoothness and Metalness around 0.97. The CM "cone" is basically smooth metal, almost a mirror. So you want values close to 1.0

 

[Mr. Residuals]

You can get that effect using the D3D9 debug settings. Select that mesh group and use the Metalness shader.
Try values for Smoothness and Metalness around 0.97. The CM "cone" is basically smooth metal, almost a mirror. So you want values close to 1.0

I just did that and I get this, I'm not sure if this is accurate.

 

[N_Molson]

Seems very dark in the first place, looks like the whole ship is in shadow ?

 

[Mr. Residuals]

Seems very dark in the first place, looks like the whole ship is in shadow ?

I think the space craft was facing Earth when I was taking the photo, but yeah it looks like the whole ship is in a shadow.

 

[N_Molson]

First thing check where the Sun is relative to the spacecraft and the planet/moon you're orbiting. Recreating the precise set of conditions on the photograph you posted is not that easy, you need to orient the CSM the same way with the Sun being roughly at the same angle. You might need a bit of trial and error. Also keep in mind that 60's color film behavior is a bit different from a "godlike video camera" you have on a simulator.

 

[n72.75]

I guess the metalness pbr shader is here to stay. I can probably make an update based on previous work, if I have time.

 

[Mr. Residuals]

I just did that and I get this, I'm not sure if this is accurate.

Update: I reread the instructions and I found that I was putting 0.097 into the smothness and metalness. I retried it, this time putting 0.970. Here's what I got.

 

[4throck]

Looks great to me!

 

[francisdrake]

Therre is downside to high relection: It only llooks cinematik near a planetary body. In deep space it just reflects the blackness of space.
So you get a black spacecraft in black space. Realistic, but maybe not what you want.

 

[Sbb1413]

Therre is downside to high relection: It only llooks cinematik near a planetary body. In deep space it just reflects the blackness of space.
So you get a black spacecraft in black space. Realistic, but maybe not what you want.

This is why I eschew spacecraft reflections to fly safely. Of course, I will use spacecraft reflections to take cinematic pics only.

 

[n72.75]

It may look weird, but the real thing looks a bit odd too.



What's missing is the normal and bump maps to handle texture of the foil strips up close. It's a mirror finish, but not a perfectly smooth surface.

 

[gamer19]

This is what I got, playing a little bit with bump and reflection textures.



ok I have played a lot, my guilty pleasure I guess...

pretty satisfied with it to be honest.

but still not finished


edit:
why the screenshots here are always downsized ??

 

[barrygolden]

That looks super you should offer that on the forum

 

[gamer19]

That looks super you should offer that on the forum

 

[4throck]

The CM bump map is starting to look really good

Nitpicking, I'd say the effect was more like a difference in smoothness and shininess between the foils.
As you have it, it looks like there are seams between the foils.

Here's a good reference:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Gumdrop_Meets_Spider_-_GPN-2000-001100.jpg

Anyway, it looks good. Worth the wait!

 

[gamer19]

thank you rock. appreciate your opinion and the pic. here's one for you

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/SaturnVcenterModule.JPG

seams ? you talking about command module, right, not the service ?
mine, for now at least, looks way overemphasized, cartoon like something like this almost

https://images.squarespace-cdn.com/...-DS1XNNINW7BC38M0VGJ3/48CSM-2.jpg?format=750w

I'll see what I can do. Since I'm not a real graphic expert, I give my best. Perhaps that isn't enough thou
I spend into all this a lot of hours that some with better knowledge/program could do in 1/10th of time
(perhaps I should just zip it all and send it to you huh)
anyway... I know it's far from being great, it's just better, with all due respect to mod creators, than the original.
Not sure why they didn't simply add bump and reflection textures to the mod thou...
maybe since mod has started before D3D9 Client support and later they forgot about it, or simply didn't bother.

 

[gamer19]

by the grace of God or by pure luck
but I think I also pretty nailed LEM texture and bump files.
somehow I manage it almost look photorealistic, in a way

don't you agree
btw I upload a image to Postimage in a desparate attempt this forum won't downsize it. cross your fingers

 

[gamer19]

scratch that
i have just discovered ?‍ that debugging option

oh happy days ?

 

[4throck]

thank you rock. appreciate your opinion and the pic. here's one for you

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ee/SaturnVcenterModule.JPG

Beware of museum articles, sometimes they are different from actual flight hardware. Work based on flight photos, you'll get more realistic results.

Your efforts are great, I look forward to using your textures. My comments were just nitpicking, don't worry about them.
The LM looks great, especially the foil