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[Urwumpe]

Considering the poor maneuverability of such tall ships, its really an impressive achievement in seamanship to take a small yacht in tow. It really requires planning ahead for about half an hour since you can't tack upwind on near the yacht and setting the sails after each maneuver takes a few minutes.

 

[jedidia]

Goetheborg of sweden actually has Diesel engines for port maneuvering (I think it's kind of the law in most ports). You can see what I think are the active cooling outlets pretty clearly in the first image of the article you posted.

 

[Notebook]

The Incredible Story Of The Dambusters Raid

On the night of 16-17 May 1943, Wing Commander Guy Gibson led 617 Squadron of the Royal Air Force on an audacious bombing raid to destroy three dams in the Ruhr valley, the industrial heartland of Germany. The mission was codenamed Operation 'Chastise'.

www.iwm.org.uk

80 years ago.
Some better sounds from 4 Merlin engines...

 

[Urwumpe]

The wreck of the Titanic has been digitally scanned and preserved, at impressive quality. You can even see tiny details, like the the serial number on the propeller.

Titanic: First ever full-sized scans reveal wreck as never seen before

Full-sized digital scans reveal shipwreck in stunning detail, showing unopened champagne bottles.

www.bbc.com

 

[diogom]

Pretty interesting to see the stern in this way. It's such a mess that it can be hard to make sense of it as a whole from dive footage alone. Photogrammetry is awesome.

 

[Urwumpe]

A tourist submarine went missing near the wreck of the Titanic yesterday. Thats pretty much a first I think, submarine tourism was very safe so far, despite the dangerous environment.

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/19/europe/titanic-shipwreck-vessel-missing-intl/index.html

Communications went missing already 1:45 into the dive, which sounds pretty bad in my ears, since it could mean that power loss in the deep.

https://oceangate.com/pdf/oceangate-titan-specs-lr.pdf

 

[Linguofreak]

A tourist submarine went missing near the wreck of the Titanic yesterday. Thats pretty much a first I think, submarine tourism was very safe so far, despite the dangerous environment.

I think most submarine tourism has tended to be shallow-water tourism. At this depth, it's more akin to space tourism (cheaper than space tourism, but also possibly riskier).

But even for non-tourism, I'm not sure I've heard of fatal accidents involving research submersibles. Even in peacetime, military submarines have been involved in most/all fatal submarine mishaps I've ever heard of (at least after the initial development of the technology). This is probably because military subs account for most of the dive time of submarines worldwide.

 

[Urwumpe]

I think most submarine tourism has tended to be shallow-water tourism. At this depth, it's more akin to space tourism (cheaper than space tourism, but also possibly riskier).

But even for non-tourism, I'm not sure I've heard of fatal accidents involving research submersibles. Even in peacetime, military submarines have been involved in most/all fatal submarine mishaps I've ever heard of (at least after the initial development of the technology). This is probably because military subs account for most of the dive time of submarines worldwide.

I think the most public incident with such submarines was the Russian Priz accident way back in 2005, close enough to the Kursk accident to make news.

But for example, I completely missed that accident:

Russian submarine Losharik - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

Went on a submarine a few times. Never felt that comfortable like in an aeroplane. I mean, you don't actually feel any movement in calm water. But it's wet and noisy. And if you look outside you realize that you are in a world you are not supposed to be. I always thought: if that porthole blows, or if the hull fails or if we lose electrical power, it's over I would say it is indeed more risky than flying or going into space.

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

There are articles in German newspapers regarding that submarine now. They include an interview with one of the first paying passengers, Arthur Loibl. He visitid the Titanic in 2021 (with the same pilot and specialist now missing). He says he wouldn't do it againt. Back then they were sitiing in the submarine already when the crew outside had to do a welding job due to technical problems...

Well, you could even pay me 250,000 USD, I wouldn't do it But damn, the more I think about what happened and what they expirience right now if they are still alive, it gives me creeping horrors Poor guys.

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

 

[Urwumpe]

Looks like the hull never underwent a classic certification, because it wasn't mandatory....

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

Looks like the hull never underwent a classic certification, because it wasn't mandatory....

Yeah. I think it is very likely something severe that happened during descent (maybe involving the hull). No communications or signal is a very bad sign I guess.

 

[Urwumpe]

Yeah. I think it is very likely something severe that happened during descent (maybe involving the hull). No communications or signal is a very bad sign I guess.

Yes, No voice communication or data can happen, but not the carrier signal Unless there was a blackout onboard. And if a blackout happened while they are above the Titanic: Perkele!

 

[DaveS]

Yeah. I think it is very likely something severe that happened during descent (maybe involving the hull). No communications or signal is a very bad sign I guess.

No comms are to be expected, not a mil-sub afterall equipped with the appropriate ELF comm equipment. It can only receive very short text messages from the main ship. It isn't tethered.

 

[Urwumpe]

No comms are to be expected, not a mil-sub afterall equipped with the appropriate ELF comm equipment. It can only receive very short text messages from the main ship. It isn't tethered.

They use UQC, the standard for underwater communications. Its purely acoustic. Text messages is a new standard and not widespread yet.

 

[MaxBuzz]

Priz accident way back in 2005,

looks more like the KRI Nanggala (402) submarine crash depth under the submarine does not give a single chance

By the way, I found out that the Mir deep-sea vehicle is still engaged in scientific research

 

[MaxBuzz]

By the way, I found out that the Mir deep-sea vehicle is still engaged in scientific research

no Mir-1 is in the museum Mir-2 ended its activity in 2021

 

[TheShuttleExperience]

There are already questions. At least in my mind. Obviously they contacted the coast guard a few hours after loss of contact with the submarine. Why would you wait that long? It happened already before but the submarine surfaced after 2,5 hours or so. Maybe they extected it to happen this time too?

If you file a flightlan as a pilot, you have to close it within 30 minutes after estimated time of arrival (or report delay). Otherwise ATC srarts search and rescue in any case (happens quite often in general aviation when private pilots simply forget to close it). And we are now talking about a vehicle that has more than three kilometers water on top!

It's also strange that employees of that company call it a safe trip with that submarine. Something like that is never safe, unless in a simulator.

 

[TheShuttleExperience]