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After spending a pile of money on a computer and a software package, I'm expected to spend my time and patience to fix the problems, too?
News Prices for XP downgrades going up.
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No, you're right. Absolutely not. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that a piece of software intended to be used by hundreds of millions of people of varying computer experience should come by default with all the features that YOU PERSONALLY want enabled, and all of the features that YOU PERSONALLY do not want disabled.
Wait, what?
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Yes, I searched the Internet for XP compatible drivers and the rest is history.
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I still can't see why so many people complain about vista. It works more or less fine oncwe you switch off that UAC thing.
Certainally crashes less than XP did, and most software runs jsut as fast, if not faster, on vista.
Certainally crashes less than XP did, and most software runs jsut as fast, if not faster, on vista.
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Well yes that is illogical, but Vista should do something like;
Xp does this but only on install of XP. Now if all OS systems could do this on the first start of the computer, then that would make the computer a little more personalized and user controlled.
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Not with my experience
as far as performance, yes it is fairly even.
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its simple...
You used DOS and got by... then you did the apple thing for a bit and got by...
you skipped the windows 1.3 and might have had a brush with Win95...
Bought win98 and used on that computer you built. And then upgreaded to 98Se. You liked it you used and tied your computers in a ring network----
THEN you got sticked with ME (with that one machine.. you know) then put 98 on it because nothing worked for more than 15 minutes... Then you made your "power" machine and used 98 for a while, but then switched to win2k AND YOU FELL IN LOVE.... it taught you what possibilities there might be in networking and sharing... oh.. And then XP... it was like 2k enough but it had candy... ooo the round edges... ZAP... and then XP64... we arrived! It was so fast, so stable, so pretty... VISTA IS COMING!!!! MUST HAVE... wait it works only on machines with massive resourcess (by any standard) just to turn on... well, you invest in hardware, now that large resource hardware is being made... What; It doesn't work?
Oh well you unlucky techy fool... it works for the guy who knows nothing about computers...
Please, You make me laugh.
You used DOS and got by... then you did the apple thing for a bit and got by...
you skipped the windows 1.3 and might have had a brush with Win95...
Bought win98 and used on that computer you built. And then upgreaded to 98Se. You liked it you used and tied your computers in a ring network----
THEN you got sticked with ME (with that one machine.. you know) then put 98 on it because nothing worked for more than 15 minutes... Then you made your "power" machine and used 98 for a while, but then switched to win2k AND YOU FELL IN LOVE.... it taught you what possibilities there might be in networking and sharing... oh.. And then XP... it was like 2k enough but it had candy... ooo the round edges... ZAP... and then XP64... we arrived! It was so fast, so stable, so pretty... VISTA IS COMING!!!! MUST HAVE... wait it works only on machines with massive resourcess (by any standard) just to turn on... well, you invest in hardware, now that large resource hardware is being made... What; It doesn't work?
Oh well you unlucky techy fool... it works for the guy who knows nothing about computers...
Please, You make me laugh.
One of my testing machines over the summer had only 1gig of RAM and a single-core processor in the sub-3GHz range. It turned on and ran Vista passably. Not well, but passably. That's not massive resources, and it turned on.
4GB of RAM isn't "massive" anymore, with how cheap RAM is these days. One of the major online parts suppliers (TigerDirect i think?) had a 4GB RAM kit for like $10 over the holidays. With 4GB you'll run Vista perfectly fine.
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if 'passably' is your cup of tea, then good for you!
If you really believe it should take a gigabyte plus of data to run your magic box, then all is well.
Some of us think that lean is better. The less the parts the fewer the malfunctions... or like that weirdo Einstein said, "Keep it simple stupid".
If you really believe it should take a gigabyte plus of data to run your magic box, then all is well.
Some of us think that lean is better. The less the parts the fewer the malfunctions... or like that weirdo Einstein said, "Keep it simple stupid".
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What I'd like to see is a comparison of Vista to the latest Mac OS or Linux release.
OS's tend to get bigger over time as they become more capable, but the question is whether Vista has bloated more than its competitors.
OS's tend to get bigger over time as they become more capable, but the question is whether Vista has bloated more than its competitors.
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Excellent point... I will find out.
If you don't have more than a gig of RAM on a new machine, then the fault belongs with you for being penny-wise and pound-foolish, not with the OS for being a hog..
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Listen,
I have a bunch of ram ... 8 gigs.. ok?? of the best ram available... IT IS NOT THE POINT.
I have a bunch of ram ... 8 gigs.. ok?? of the best ram available... IT IS NOT THE POINT.
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What is the point? Do you expect your OS to be all new and shiny and support all the newest and fanciest features that everyone has, while not having a larger memory footprint?
That's not how it works in the real world.
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I might not expect that... at least not in those terms.
You are ultimately correct in that the option is mine as is the responsibility to keep my systems running in the world that MS has laid out before us...
I am stuck with it as ripping software for wide format printing are windows based.
But I have downgraded my system to the superior XP until things get better. If you buy your box at the store "ready made" you probably will not have to worry about this since windows is primarily in the licensing business... And your box will have compatible components... until you put something new in it..
Still... convoluted software is not shinny...
You are ultimately correct in that the option is mine as is the responsibility to keep my systems running in the world that MS has laid out before us...
I am stuck with it as ripping software for wide format printing are windows based.
But I have downgraded my system to the superior XP until things get better. If you buy your box at the store "ready made" you probably will not have to worry about this since windows is primarily in the licensing business... And your box will have compatible components... until you put something new in it..
Still... convoluted software is not shinny...
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