Orbiter Forum Planetary System

[Kaito]

You should put some smoke rising up from the buildings in there- It would give it a nice effect.

I will. Im gonna make all the buildings "destroyified" then add the final touches. I'd probably add those final touches in GIMP though. The hellish part will be modeling all of this for my capital city

 

[donatelo200]

O just a Question what should i call the system and what should the star's name be?

 

[T.Neo]

System concept

I have come up with a system concept for OFPS.

In the diagram (not to scale):

1- Central star. G class star similar to Sol. Plenty of stars in the near stellar neighborhood to Sol could potentially fit the bill.

2- Mercurian planetoid.

3- "Habitable" Venusian; surface temperature over 100 C but water remains liquid due to the high atmospheric pressure. Life here uses somewhat odd alternate biochemistry but still uses liquid water as a solvent.

4&5- Earthlike planet and it's moon (potentially habitable as well).

6- Mercurian planetoid.

7&8- Mars-like planet and airless moon.

9- Dense asteroid field.

10- Superjovian gas giant planet and moons.

11&12- Trojan planets of the superjovian planet.

13- Subjovian planet & moons. Great resource for fusion fuel, moons rich in water ice.

14&15- Titanian cryoplanet and barren ice moon.

The idea is that the system is more-or-less "real estate" to be developed. What can't fit onto a planet by terraforming or naturally could potentially fit onto a orbital habitat or artificial planet (or supraplanetary shell?).

I like the idea of a habitable moon, but I don't know how it could fit in here. It'd also slightly be a ripoff of James Cameron. And a staggering number of other SF writers...

 

[fireballs619]

I have come up with a system concept for OFPS.

In the diagram (not to scale):

1- Central star. G class star similar to Sol. Plenty of stars in the near stellar neighborhood to Sol could potentially fit the bill.

2- Mercurian planetoid.

3- "Habitable" Venusian; surface temperature over 100 C but water remains liquid due to the high atmospheric pressure. Life here uses somewhat odd alternate biochemistry but still uses liquid water as a solvent.

4&5- Earthlike planet and it's moon (potentially habitable as well).

6- Mercurian planetoid.

7&8- Mars-like planet and airless moon.

9- Dense asteroid field.

10- Superjovian gas giant planet and moons.

11&12- Trojan planets of the superjovian planet.

13- Subjovian planet & moons. Great resource for fusion fuel, moons rich in water ice.

14&15- Titanian cryoplanet and barren ice moon.

The idea is that the system is more-or-less "real estate" to be developed. What can't fit onto a planet by terraforming or naturally could potentially fit onto a orbital habitat or artificial planet (or supraplanetary shell?).

I like the idea of a habitable moon, but I don't know how it could fit in here. It'd also slightly be a ripoff of James Cameron. And a staggering number of other SF writers...

I like that very much, except it seems a little to much like Sol. I suggest putting another earthlike planet in there, in the location of the mars equivalent. Move everything else up one space. Just my suggestion though.

 

[Kaito]

I say we create the planets now and worry about making them all fit later

This way people dont feel restricted on what they can/cannot create.

As far as names go...we can figure that out later. We should just get a list of all the planets first, then organize them later.

 

[fireballs619]

This way people dont feel restricted on what they can/cannot create.

As far as names go...we can figure that out later. We should just get a list of all the planets first, then organize them later.

I agree here. Its better to have people make what they want, and letting their imaginations run free, then to say to them "here is your planet. It is outside the habitable zone, so no life here." We make the planets, then fit them in. While all of the planets can't be in the habitable zone at the same time, that doesn't mean they can't be habitable at different points in the systems history.

 

[donatelo200]

Um yea i almost finished with my high mass jovian and moon with the F8V star. I'd say 5 min and i'll be done. The super jupiter will allow for alot of habitibal moons. And if your an expert you could place a planet in a trojan point. I'm naming the star Fifi for now. My gass giant is Telda and the moon is Tacta. The star higher mass makes a bigger habbitibal zone. (1.117Au-1.981Au at standard press)

 

[T.Neo]

The problem with that is that we're going to end up with umpteen habitable planets and little or no variety (well not within the planets themselves, but the types of planet).

There are unfortunately limits on what can or cannot become habitable naturally. The Moon won't become habitable, if the Sun was replaced by a pink elephant. Neither would Saturn. But Venus might have been quite like Earth at one point in history.

And that doesn't include things like terraforming, or any sort of artificial construction. When I said "open to development", I meant it in quite a literal sense as well.

 

[Kaito]

The problem with that is that we're going to end up with umpteen habitable planets and little or no variety (well not within the planets themselves, but the types of planet).

There are unfortunately limits on what can or cannot become habitable naturally. The Moon won't become habitable, if the Sun was replaced by a pink elephant. Neither would Saturn. But Venus might have been quite like Earth at one point in history.

And that doesn't include things like terraforming, or any sort of artificial construction. When I said "open to development", I meant it in quite a literal sense as well.

Who said they are being inhabited right now? They could have destroyed themselves. I plan on thinking of a moon where it cant support life naturally; humans colonized it.

Worst case scenario, we make multiple solar systems

 

[T.Neo]

Who said they are being inhabited right now? They could have destroyed themselves. I plan on thinking of a moon where it cant support life naturally; humans colonized it.

Right, but just because a planet is inhabited or not doesn't change what it is. A planet could be abandoned for millenia and still be habitable from terraforming, or could be inhabited and have an environment virtually unchanged from what it was beforehand.

Worst case scenario, we make multiple solar systems

Might not be a worst case scenario at all. Would allow for the greatest amount of flexibility among ideas IMO, while allowing them to coexist without conflicting eachother in terms of plausibility (13 mass Jupiter can't have an Earthlike planet right on it's doorstep, etc).

 

[fireballs619]

Before we decide if we are going to make several systems, I strongly suggest that we all make our planets first. Once we have made them, we can see how, or even if, they fit together. At that point, it will be clear as to whether or not we need multiple systems. I don't want to see this project spiral into unneeded complexity.

 

[River Crab]

Very good planning there. :thumbup:
I might add:

Captured metallic asteroid for mining, conveniently orbiting with an inclination roughly along the Earthlike's ecliptic. Would orbit the sub-jovian fuel-rich planet for heavy-duty construction, or some other place where there's fuel.

Resource-rich planet closer to home. Basically, these guys were luckier than us and got themselves a huge fuel supply right near their Earthlike home planet. The habitable moon of a gas giant might work well for this, and perhaps be good for frequent slings.

Another option is basically binary Earthlikes. Life started on one and was somehow transferred to the other, resulting in separate evolutions and a more
advanced intelligent species struggling to make contact.

Yet one more is opposite planets. Basically, two Earthlikes on the same orbit with the same period, on opposite sides. What caused life to flourish on only one?

Do we need two mercurial planets? There doesn't seem much point in going to either of them. We should have reasons. We're trying to make this better than Sol.

Captured Avalon planet. Basically, Pluto, but better-much better. Hard to get to but resource-rich, icy with an ocean like Europa. Warmer than europa, eccentric orbit but becomes a nice place during perihelion when it heats up.

The specifics could vary, but basically this planet is a good place, and hard to get to. Hence my nickname"Avalon Planet".

Also, the Martian planet should be a good pace for terraforming; a better place than Mars. More massive and better magnetic field for protecting an atmosphere, but lacks the good things in an atmosphere. Perhaps microbial life.

Anyway just suggestions. Use some of them if you want, or not.

EDIT: WOW. A Slow Bro is me.
Anyway, these are suggestions for other people to place their planets, not my original planets. I dunno about forsaking the placement for now, but just tell people what you think you're going to make and it should be fine.

 

[Kaito]

Before we decide if we are going to make several systems, I strongly suggest that we all make our planets first. Once we have made them, we can see how, or even if, they fit together. At that point, it will be clear as to whether or not we need multiple systems. I don't want to see this project spiral into unneeded complexity.

I agree. I think everyone who's making a planet should think of history for it, which then allows them to shape the world: if there was a civil war, maybe dont have everything appear all green and happy

 

[donatelo200]

Ok i have finished the gass giant the star and my moon. The gass giant is 12.33x the mass of jupiter with an eccetricy of 0.124. It's in the habitibal zone so it can support quit a few Earth massed moons.

 

[fireballs619]

Okay, I again think we need some general guidelines so newcomers know what to do. So here goes:

1: The goal here is to create a planet with a rich history, which can be made into a planet for Orbiter. At the very least, this planet should have a map and a description of its. Is it earthlike? Is it a dieing planet? A gas giant with habitable moons? Tell us about the cultures of your planet, if you have any. Be as in-depth as you want!

2: Once you feel your planet is good enough to be put into orbiter, start making it! If you feel as though you don't have the skills to make one, post the information here and we will see what we can do.

3: Once we have all of the planets in, we will decide if we need multiple systems, or if the planets can fit into one. In the case that we need multiple, we will decide which planets go where, based on viability.

4: All planets must be posted by (insert deadline here). This is to prevent having to reconfigure systems because a new planet moved in.

5: Have fun doing this! This isn't meant to be work.

When developing your histories, you may want interactions between planets. Contact the creator of the planet you want interactions with to work it out! Maybe your planet seeds theirs with life. Perhaps, your race is worshiped as gods after visiting another planet early in their history. Its up to you!

 

[Kaito]

Okay, I again think we need some general guidelines so newcomers know what to do. So here goes:

1: The goal here is to create a planet with a rich history, which can be made into a planet for Orbiter. At the very least, this planet should have a map and a description of its. Is it earthlike? Is it a dieing planet? A gas giant with habitable moons? Tell us about the cultures of your planet, if you have any. Be as in-depth as you want!

2: Once you feel your planet is good enough to be put into orbiter, start making it! If you feel as though you don't have the skills to make one, post the information here and we will see what we can do.

3: Once we have all of the planets in, we will decide if we need multiple systems, or if the planets can fit into one. In the case that we need multiple, we will decide which planets go where, based on viability.

4: All planets must be posted by (insert deadline here). This is to prevent having to reconfigure systems because a new planet moved in.

5: Have fun doing this! This isn't meant to be work.

When developing your histories, you may want interactions between planets. Contact the creator of the planet you want interactions with to work it out! Maybe your planet seeds theirs with life. Perhaps, your race is worshiped as gods after visiting another planet early in their history. Its up to you!

Thank you Fireballs, i'm putting those in the first post now

 

[donatelo200]

Here are the maps for Tacta. I have the system with this moon on the preveus page.

 

[Dambuster]

If anyone has a few spare histories to flesh out, I'll be more than happy to do that! Just give me a few guidelines please

 

[Kaito]

If anyone has a few spare histories to flesh out, I'll be more than happy to do that! Just give me a few guidelines please

Write me a history for a moon that humans colonized. I'll leave it at that

 

[astrosammy]

If anyone has a few spare histories to flesh out, I'll be more than happy to do that! Just give me a few guidelines please

I could do it myself, but if you want: a cold, desert planet, very close to mars (ice caps, craters,...). I'll add a crash site of an interstellar spacecraft.