Orbiter being sold at amazon :-(

[Spacethingy]

Take a look at the montage of screenshots he posted. It's definitely Orbiter, and a few of its addons.

Looking at that picture, it seems that he's not just busting Orbiter's GPL either:

http://www.worldof2001.com/2001bottommap.jpg

(assuming that this is Sputnik and co.'s addon)

 

[Havner]

Looking at that picture, it seems that he's not just busting Orbiter's GPL either:

Orbiter is not GPL. If it were it _might_ be actually legal what this guy is doing.

BTW, what's wrong with this banner? This webpage looks like a host to an Orbiter add-on.

 

[Rtyh-12]

That banner says that World Of 2001 is for non-commercial purposes only.

 

[Urwumpe]

(assuming that this is Sputnik and co.'s addon)

It is.

 

[Havner]

That banner says that World Of 2001 is for non-commercial purposes only.

Ah, you're referring to the fact the this addon screenshot is on amazon as well. Didn't get the context, sorry, initially though that this addon is infringing something.

 

[Artlav]

Orbiter is not GPL. If it were it _might_ be actually legal what this guy is doing.

Legal and just are rarely the same thing.

 

[Havner]

Legal and just are rarely the same thing.

I'm perfectly aware of that. Selling GPL software is legal as long as you comply with GPL. It might not be fair depending on how you actually do that and if you support the creators. I deliberately used 'legal' in that sentence.

 

[jedidia]

I don't think so, Ferengi actually know how to do business and the behavior of our CEOs would horrify them. They deserve to be locked forever in the Vault of Eternal Destitution.

Ok, I loose the nerd contest! :lol:

or, maybe not:

Ferengi also make regular pilgrimages to Earth's Wall Street, which they view as a holy site of commerce and business.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferengi#cite_note-6

 

[Scruce]

How can you sell freeware on amazon?
it's just impossible!!!

They will rot in limbo!

 

[Havner]

Seems this item has been pulled down from Amazon. It's still listed but it's unavailable.

Initially it was 9.99£, then 10.99£ (like if the first reseller pulled it down), now there is nothing. No items available and somehow I doubt it has been sold.

 

[Linguofreak]

Now, aside from the clear violation of Orbiter's license, I wonder how well the GPL is being complied with as regards the GPL'ed programs they're selling. Namely, are they making the source available? When you open up the package and install the software, are they leaving the license documents intact, or are they trying to pass it off as their own by distributing the software under a non-GPL compatible license that assigns rights to them?

 

[Tycho]

I'm just disappointed that some low-life had to lower themselves to do something like this, it's a shame. It's good to hear that it has been spotted quickly, something like this is indeed an issue with free software.

 

[JEL]

They are also selling the free Rigs-of-rods simulator:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Transport-Simulator-Aircraft-Truck-Boat/dp/B004135660/ref=pd_sim_sbs_sw_h__5

Which has it's real home here: http://www.rigsofrods.com/

 

[Pyromaniac605]

Out of all the software they are selling on amazon, I am still to see a single legitimate program, it is all free software renamed, packaged and sold to some poor unsuspecting people.

There isn't a report seller button on Amazon is there?

 

[jedidia]

Out of all the software they are selling on amazon, I am still to see a single legitimate program, it is all free software renamed, packaged and sold to some poor unsuspecting people.

Actually, I bought quite a few games at amazone (older ones that weren't in retail anymore). That's before there was Exsilia, Gog and all that fancy stuff, though, but sometimes you just want a box.

 

[jinglesassy]

Out of all the software they are selling on amazon, I am still to see a single legitimate program, it is all free software renamed, packaged and sold to some poor unsuspecting people.

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65048332-Photoshop-CS5/dp/B003B32B2I

Anything else i can help with pyromaniac?

 

[Hielor]

http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-65048332-Photoshop-CS5/dp/B003B32B2I

Anything else i can help with pyromaniac?

Wait what?

Pyromaniac was referring to software being sold by Butterfly Media...

 

[jinglesassy]

Wait what?

Pyromaniac was referring to software being sold by Butterfly Media...

:facepalm: Read it wrong. Thought he meant anywhere on amazon.

 

[jedidia]

ahhhh... the formulation "they... at amazone" seemed to suggest that he hasn't found a single piece of legit software sold all over amazone. It makes a lot more sense now.

 

[martins]

Thanks for bringing this issue to my attention. Here's a brief update:

• I have contacted the individual sellers, and they have removed their listings, pending a discussion with "their supplier".
• I have contacted amazon to remove the product page itself, and they have refused because there is currently no active listing.