Project Multistage2015 - Development Thread

[fred18]

So I guess it is possible to use this to launch the X-33? I am not sure how the ini would look like as the x-33 is the only vessel.

I'd suggest a ghost stage with transparent mesh with the engines of the x-33. If you have access to the code of the X-33 you could set the fuel level as the same of the ms2015 vessel, otherwise you have to guess the remaining fuel after the orbit insertion

 

[gattispilot]

I do as it is sc3. Thanks

 

[fred18]

I do as it is sc3. Thanks

then you have to guess the fuel... you could also make a small lua script I think.

 

[gattispilot]

Not sure what you mean? The fuel, thrust amounts are in the ini.

Do you mean the amount of fuel left once in orbit?

So build an ini using a ghost mesh. Attach the x-33 so it looks good on the pad

Put the x-33 engines (ms2015 ini) where they should be on the x-33

 

[fred18]

Do you mean the amount of fuel left once in orbit?

yes exactly. if you use multistage vessel, then you jettison it and probably destroy it. But to know how much fuel will be left in the x-33 tanks you should know how much fuel it used to get on orbit.

So build an ini using a ghost mesh. Attach the x-33 so it looks good on the pad

Put the x-33 engines (ms2015 ini) where they should be on the x-33

yes, that's what I had in mind. And at the end of the guidance program jettison the payload and destroy/delete the ms2015 vessel (there's a guidance command for that, can't remember now the exact word)

 

[gattispilot]

So I made a test x-33.ini

[MISC]
cog=38.0
FOCUS=1
THRUST_REAL_POS=1

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust_atsme
TEX_2=solidfuel_exhaust
TEX_3=contrail4
TEX_4=contrail
TEX_5=contrailSRBA


[PARTICLESTREAM_3]
NAME=solidfuel_exhaust
SRCSIZE=3
SRCRATE=12
V0=30
SRCSPREAD=0.05
LIFETIME=1.3
GROWTHRATE=3
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.3
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-6
AMAX=1
TEX=solidfuel_exhaust
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=0.2

[PARTICLESTREAM_4]
NAME=contrail4
SRCSIZE=3
SRCRATE=12
V0=50
SRCSPREAD=0.05
LIFETIME=15.5
GROWTHRATE=3
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.3
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-6
AMAX=1
TEX=contrailSRBA
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=0.2

[STAGE_1]
Height=46.88 
Diameter=8.7
EmptyMass=35272
FuelMass=728715.23
Thrust=6539030.025
BurnTime=504.1
off=(-0.05,0,13.401)
MeshName="vstar"
eng_1=(-1.6,7.93,-27.88)
eng_2=( 1.6,7.93,-27.88)
eng_3=( 0.0,11.33,-27.03)
DIR=(0.0, 0.25885, -0.96545)
eng_diameter=2.0
speed=(0,0,-10)
ENG_TEX=Exhaust_atsme
battery=1.5
Reignitable=0

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName="vstar"
off=(-0.00,8.13,0.0)
Diameter=23.1
Height=36.2
Mass=96418.0
Module=spacecraft\spacecraft4
Name=vstar
SPEED=(0,0.8,0)
Rot_Speed=(0.002,0,0)
RENDER=1
LIVE=1

The meshname is vstar.


The is the cfg for spacecraft:

[CONFIG]
MESHNAME="vstar"

Went I run the scn I get a ctd and this:

000000.000: Load State Started
000000.000: x-33: Guidance File present: Config\Multistage2015\Guidance\guidance_shuttle_STS-1real.txt
000000.000: x-33: Orbit Call Found! Targets: Apogee:317400.0 Perigee:307000.0 Inclination:40.0 Mode:-1.0 GT initial Pitch: 0.0 Abside:307000.0
000000.000: x-33: Config File: C:\Orbiter2016\Config\Multistage2015\x-33.ini
000000.000: x-33: Number of stages in the ini file: 1
000000.000: x-33: Number of boosters group in the ini file: 0
000000.000: x-33: Number of Payloads in the ini file: 1
000000.000: x-33: Thrust in Real Position
000000.000: x-33: Texture n.1 Loaded Exhaust_atsme
000000.000: x-33: Texture n.2 Loaded solidfuel_exhaust
000000.000: x-33: Texture n.3 Loaded contrail4
000000.000: x-33: Texture n.4 Loaded contrail
000000.000: x-33: Texture n.5 Loaded contrailSRBA
000000.000: x-33: Stage n. 1 Tank Added: 728715.230 kg
000000.000: x-33: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 3 , diameter: 2.000, position x: -1.600 y: 7.930 z: -27.880
000000.000: x-33: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 3 , diameter: 2.000, position x: 1.600 y: 7.930 z: -27.880
000000.000: x-33: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 3 , diameter: 2.000, position x: 0.000 y: 11.330 z: -27.030
000000.000: x-33: Stage n.1 Mesh Preloaded: vstar
000000.000: x-33: Stage n.1 Mesh Added Mesh: vstar @ x:-0.050 y:0.000 z:0.000
000000.000: Load State Terminated
000000.000: Module EmptyModule.dll ....... [Build 170626, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MS_Camera.dll ......... [Build 170626, API 160828]
000000.000: MS_Camera: Target Vessel Loaded->ET-1
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: Post Creation Started
000000.000: Module Spacecraft4.dll ....... [Build 151223, API 100830]
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Mesh not found: .\Meshes\.msh
[LoadMesh | .\Mesh.cpp | 1269]
===============================================================
000000.000: x-33: Gravity Turn Initial Pitch by user: 0.000 Calculated:89.000

 

[fred18]

So I made a test x-33.ini

from the log it seems to me a Spacecraft issue more than ms2015, try to take out the live=1 option and see if it works.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. I got it to work. I need to look at the guidance.

-30.000 =orbit(307.0,317.4,40.03,-1)
-6.0 =engine(0,100,6)
3.0 =engine(100,104.5,1.00)
30.0 =engine(104.5,72.00,5.00)
55.0 =engine(72.0,104.5,5.00)
120.0 =jettison()
121.0 =glimit(3.0)
200.0 =glimit(3.0)
225.0 =inverse()
300.0 =glimit(3.0)
400.0 =glimit(3.0)
500.0 =glimit(3.0)

This was for shuttle so I need to delete the other engines,.....

---------- Post added 10-02-18 at 04:11 AM ---------- Previous post was 10-01-18 at 06:34 PM ----------

So I tried to match the sc3 stuff into a ms2015:

[MISC]
cog=19.5
FOCUS=1
THRUST_REAL_POS=1

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust_atsme
TEX_2=solidfuel_exhaust
TEX_3=contrail4
TEX_4=contrail
TEX_5=contrailSRBA



[STAGE_1]
Height=46.88 
Diameter=8.7
EmptyMass=228878
FuelMass=735322
Thrust=1.33861e7
BurnTime=504.1
off=(-0.05,0,13.401)
MeshName="vstarghost"
eng_1=(-6,-2,-17.85)
eng_2=(-3.98,-2,-17.85)
eng_3=( -1.96,-2,-17.85)
eng_4=(1.96,-2,-17.85)
eng_5=(3.98,-2,-17.85)
eng_6=( 6,-2,-17.85)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
eng_diameter=1.5
speed=(0,0,-10)
ENG_TEX=Exhaust_atsme
battery=1.5
Reignitable=0

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName="vstar"
off=(-0.00,8.13,0.0)
Diameter=23.1
Height=36.2
Mass=0.0
Module=spacecraft\spacecraft
Name=vstar
SPEED=(0,0.8,0)
Rot_Speed=(0.002,0,0)
RENDER=1
LIVE=1

sc3

[CONFIG]
MESHNAME="vstar"
FOCUS=0
SIZE=19.85
EMPTY_MASS=228878
FUEL_MASS=735322
MAIN_THRUST=1.33861e7
RETRO_THRUST=0
HOVER_THRUST=0
ATTITUDE_THRUST=150000
ISP=8904
TRIM=0.1
PMI=(89.95,121.87,47.68)
CW_Z_POS=0.07
CW_Z_NEG=0.09
CW_X=1.6
CW_Y=1.4
CROSS_SECTION=(306.39,737.47,233.59)
COG=2.33
PITCH_MOMENT_SCALE=0.00003
BANK_MOMENT_SCALE=0.00003
ROT_DRAG=(0.3,0.6,0.6)
WING_ASPECT=0.7
WING_EFFECTIVENESS=3.1
LAUNCH_PT1=(0,1,-20)
LAUNCH_PT2=(-19.114,19,-20)
LAUNCH_PT3=(19.114,19,-20)
LAND_PT1=(0,-7.515,15.394)
LAND_PT2=(-11.03,-7.515,-11.37)
LAND_PT3=(11.03,-7.515,-11.37)

[DOCK_0]
POS=(0,2.75,0.8)
DIR=(0,1,0)
ROT=(0,0,1)

[EX_MAIN_0]
OFF=(-6,-2,-17.85)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
LENGTH=30
WIDTH=1.5

I set the mass of the payload as 0 as it is really the launch vessel

-30.000 =orbit(307.0,317.4,40.03,-1)
-6.0 =engine(0,100,6)

But it fuels up but just sits on the ground not lifting up. Thrusters firing. It might be too heavy?

So can you set the length of the thrust?
Like in sc3 it has width and length

 

[fred18]

I m not sure the exponential notation of the thrust is read correctly. Try to put the explicit number. And don't put mass 0, i m afraid it will mess up the calculations, put 0.01 instead

---------- Post added at 14:58 ---------- Previous post was at 14:55 ----------

Ah no wait. If the payload is live its mass will be acquired from the vessel. So if you put the mass of the stage equals to the mass of vstar and then add a live vstar payload above you ll have the mass of 2 vstars! You have to use empty mass of the stage at 0.01, then guess fuel distribution between sc3 and ms2015

 

[4throck]

Remember that fuel also has mass

I think this is similar to the MS2015 Shuttle, where the tank is stage with a phantom main engine.

I'd to the same here and add fuel/mass to the phantom stage.
As fred mentions, zero mass tends to give trouble.

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. I will try that when I get home. Need to figure how do the length of the thrust and guidance. I need it do like the shuttle that roll over and get into orbit for the ISS

---------- Post added at 07:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:29 AM ----------

So I got the Engines where they need to be. But I want the default blue thrust for exhaust.

-30.000 =orbit(486,578,28.5,-1)
-6.0 =engine(0,100,6)
225.0 =inverse()
500 = Destroy()

[MISC]
cog=19.5
FOCUS=1
THRUST_REAL_POS=1

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust_atsme
TEX_2=solidfuel_exhaust
TEX_3=contrail4
TEX_4=contrail
TEX_5=contrailSRBA



[STAGE_1]
Height=46.88 
Diameter=8.7
EmptyMass=228878
FuelMass=735322
Thrust=1.33861e7
BurnTime=504.1
off=(-0.05,0,13.401)
MeshName="vstarghost"
eng_1=(-6,5,-21.85)
eng_2=(-3.98,5,-21.85)
eng_3=( -1.96,5,-21.85)
eng_4=(1.96,5,-21.85)
eng_5=(3.98,5,-21.85)
eng_6=( 6,5,-21.85)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
eng_diameter=1.5
speed=(0,0,-10)
ENG_TEX=Exhaust_atsme
battery=1.5
Reignitable=0

 

[gattispilot]

So I have this as the ini.

[MISC]
cog=19.5
FOCUS=1
THRUST_REAL_POS=1

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust_atsme
TEX_2=solidfuel_exhaust
TEX_3=contrail4
TEX_4=contrail
TEX_5=contrailSRBA



[STAGE_1]
Height=46.88
Diameter=8.7
EmptyMass=228878
FuelMass=735322
Thrust=1.33861e7
BurnTime=504.1
off=(-0.05,0,13.401)
MeshName="vstarghost"
eng_1=(-6,5,-21.85)
eng_2=(-3.98,5,-21.85)
eng_3=( -1.96,5,-21.85)
eng_4=(1.96,5,-21.85)
eng_5=(3.98,5,-21.85)
eng_6=( 6,5,-21.85)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
eng_diameter=1.5
speed=(0,0,-10)
ENG_TEX=Exhaust_atsme
battery=1.5
Reignitable=0

But no thrusters are seen.

All I see are the outer space exhausts

I need to add smoke to it also.

 

[fred18]

But no thrusters are seen.

maybe they are inside the mesh, just try to move them outside to see if it works

 

[gattispilot]

So this is what I get:

got smoke but no thruster exhaust?

[MISC]
cog=19.5
FOCUS=1
THRUST_REAL_POS=1

[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust_atsme
TEX_2=solidfuel_exhaust
TEX_3=contrail4
TEX_4=contrail
TEX_5=contrailSRBA

[PARTICLESTREAM_1]
NAME=solidfuel_exhaust
SRCSIZE=3
SRCRATE=12
V0=30
SRCSPREAD=0.05
LIFETIME=1.3
GROWTHRATE=3
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.3
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-6
AMAX=1
TEX=solidfuel_exhaust
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=0.2

[PARTICLESTREAM_2]
NAME=contrail4
SRCSIZE=3
SRCRATE=12
V0=50
SRCSPREAD=0.05
LIFETIME=15.5
GROWTHRATE=3
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.3
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-6
AMAX=1
TEX=contrailSRBA
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=0.2

[STAGE_1]
Height=46.88 
Diameter=8.7
EmptyMass=228878
FuelMass=735322
Thrust=1.33861e7
BurnTime=504.1
off=(-0.05,0,13.401)
MeshName="vstarghost"
eng_1=(-6.0,6,-35.85)
eng_2=(-3.98,6,-35.85)
eng_3=( -1.96,6,-35.85)
eng_4=(1.96,6,-25.85)
eng_5=(3.98,6,-25.85)
eng_6=( 6.0,6,-25.85)
DIR=(0,0,-1)
eng_diameter=1.5
speed=(0,0,-10)
ENG_PSTREAM1=solidfuel_exhaust
ENG_PSTREAM2=contrail4
ENG_TEX=Exhaust_atsme
battery=1.5
Reignitable=0

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName="vstar"
off=(-0.00,8.13,0.0)
Diameter=23.1
Height=36.2
Mass=0.1
Module=spacecraft\spacecraft
Name=vstar
SPEED=(0,0.8,0)
Rot_Speed=(0.002,0,0)
RENDER=1
LIVE=1

 

[4throck]

Shouldn't Z all be the same? As you have them the engines won't line up



eng_1=(-6.0,6,-35.85)
eng_2=(-3.98,6,-35.85)
eng_3=( -1.96,6,-35.85)
eng_4=(1.96,6,-25.85)
eng_5=(3.98,6,-25.85)
eng_6=( 6.0,6,-25.85)

 

[gattispilot]

I did that just to see if thruster were covered by mesh

---------- Post added at 04:20 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:53 AM ----------

Not I need to figure the guidance.

-30.000 =orbit(403.00,408,51.64)
-6.0 =engine(0,100,6)
150.0 =inverse()
450 = Destroy()

The PeA and AeA and angle are of the ISS which is my target

 

[Chris74]

ok Guys, so...
any chance for a working version for Orbiter2016 in the near future...?

kinda annoying that nothing much works anymore, no multistage, no velcro, no spacecraft, no titans, no deltas...

is something being cooked here ...?

 

[DaveS]

ok Guys, so...
any chance for a working version for Orbiter2016 in the near future...?

kinda annoying that nothing much works anymore, no multistage, no velcro, no spacecraft, no titans, no deltas...

is something being cooked here ...?

Here you go: https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7010

 

[Chris74]

?? Hi!
What do you mean? this doesnt work. i just did a complete orbiter reinstall 2 weeks ago.
basically nothing apart from ravenstar works from the popular addons in O2016.

i mean the inculded 3 test scenarios work, but nohing else, it constantly appchrashes when i try to run any addon that is dependent on it for example MS2015 titans or Soyuz...

rockets blow up, or disappear in mid air, and stages appear in weird configurations, etc...

what do you use that works with this?
thx. :tiphat:

Here you go: https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=7010

 

[IronRain]

?? Hi!
What do you mean? this doesnt work. i just did a complete orbiter reinstall 2 weeks ago.
basically nothing apart from ravenstar works from the popular addons in O2016.

i mean the inculded 3 test scenarios work, but nohing else, it constantly appchrashes when i try to run any addon that is dependent on it for example MS2015 titans or Soyuz...

rockets blow up, or disappear in mid air, and stages appear in weird configurations, etc...

what do you use that works with this?
thx. :tiphat:

I'm afraid you have to be more specific (and maybe open a separate thread as well) about your problems. MS2015 Titans works well for me, and there are multiple Soyuz add-ons, so it totally depends on which one you're using.