manned missions to venus

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The proposed mission would use a Saturn V to send three men to fly past Venus in a flight which would last approximately one year. The S-IVB stage would be a 'wet workshop' similar to Skylab, first using the S-IVB engine to launch the mission on course to Venus, and then vented of any remaining fuel to serve as home for the crew for the duration of the mission. The Apollo SM engine would be used for course corrections on the way to Venus and back to Earth, and for a braking burn before the Command Module re-entered Earth's atmosphere. In order to free up more space in the SLA area for the CSM to S-IVB docking adapter, the SPS engine on the SM would be replaced by two LEM engines, providing similar thrust with smaller nozzles.
Precursors to the Venus flyby would include an initial orbital test flight with an S-IVB 'wet workshop' and basic docking adapter, and a year-long test flight taking the S-IVB to a near-geostationary orbit around the Earth.
One oddity of the Venus flyby mission is that, unlike trips to the Moon, the CSM would separate and dock with the S-IVB stage before the S-IVB burn, so the astronauts would fly 'eyeballs-out', the thrust of the engine pushing them out of their seats rather than into them. This was required because there was only a short window for an abort burn by the CSM to return to Earth after a failure in the S-IVB, so all spacecraft systems needed to be operational and checked out before leaving the parking orbit around Earth to fly to Venus.

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Cutaway diagram of the Venus flyby spacecraft.



Diagram of the planned development phases of the Venus flyby spacecraft.



Mockup of Phase-A test, in an 'eyeballs-out' burn.


Phase A of the plan would have launched a 'wet workshop' S-IVB and a standard Block II Apollo CSM into orbit on a Saturn V. The crew would separate the CSM from the S-IVB by blowing off the SLA panels, then perform a Transposition and Docking maneuver similar to that conducted on the lunar flights, in order to dock with the docking module attached to the front of the S-IVB. Optionally they could then use the S-IVB engine to launch them into a high orbit before they vented any remaining fuel into space and entered the S-IVB fuel tanks to conduct experiments for a few weeks. After evaluating the use of the S-IVB as a long-term habitat for astronauts, they would separate the CSM from the S-IVB and return to Earth.
Phase B would test the Venus flyby spacecraft in a long duration mission in high orbit. A Saturn V would launch a Block III CSM designed for long-term spaceflight and a modified S-IVB with the Environmental Support Module required for the real Venus flyby, and following the transposition and docking maneuver the S-IVB engine would carry the spacecraft to a circular orbit at an altitude of about 25,000 miles around the Earth. This altitude would be high enough to be clear of Earth's radiation belts while exposing the spacecraft to an environment similar to that of a trip to Venus, yet close enough to Earth that the astronauts could use the CSM to return in a few hours in an emergency.
Power would probably be provided by solar panels similar to those used on Skylab, as fuel cells would require a very large amount of fuel to operate for a year. Similarly the fuel cells in the SM used to provide power on lunar flights would be replaced by batteries which would provide enough power for the duration of launch and re-entry operations.
Phase C would be the actual manned flyby, using a Block IV CSM and an updated version of the Venus flyby S-IVB which would carry a large radio antenna for communication with Earth and two or more small probes which would be released shortly before the flyby to enter the atmosphere of Venus. The Block IV CSM has LEM engines replacing the Service Propulsion System engines, batteries to replace the fuel cells, and other modifications to support long-range communication with Earth and the higher re-entry velocities required for the return trajectory compared to a return from lunar orbit.
The Phase C mission was planned to launch in late October or early November of 1973, when the velocity requirements required to reach Venus and the duration of the resulting mission would be at their lowest. After a brief stay in Earth parking orbit to check out the spacecraft the crew would head for Venus: in the event of a major problem during the Trans-Venus Injection burn, they would have roughly an hour to separate the CSM from the S-IVB and use the SM engine to cancel out most of the velocity they gained from the burn. This would put them into a highly elliptical orbit which would typically bring them back to Earth for a re-entry two to three days later. Beyond that time the SM engine would not have enough fuel to bring the CSM back to Earth before the SM batteries ran out of power: it would literally be 'Venus or Bust'.
After a successful S-IVB burn, the spacecraft would pass approximately 3000 miles from the surface of Venus about four months later. The flyby velocity would be so high that the crew would only have a few hours for detailed study of the planet, but during the rest of the mission they would also perform astronomical studies of the sun, the sky and Mercury, which they would approach within 0.3 Astronomical Units.
 

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Ohh, I see, you got this from wikipedia,

actually 3 things you should see;
First wikipedia isnot and shouldnot be a credited source, because even I can edit it

second(and 3rd:)), see the beginning of that page;

As part of the Apollo Applications Program, in the mid 1960s NASA studied the possibility of carrying out a manned flyby of Venus using hardware derived from the Apollo program

so they were studying the possibility, not the actuallity, ;)

:cheers:
 

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I ONLY use it for a basic reference not the full truth...I know my daughter can edit wiki and she is only 4 he he he :study:

Besides research a flyby is just that. The technology of certain aspects was just not advanced enough I think . However...

C an anyone say ADDON?
 

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You hear all the time mars mission this mars mission that ...

What about going to Venus?

oh and to answer your mars thing,

I think people donot want to go to venus because of its extream temps, Its impossible to land their, so getting their would not benifit or be as, 'gloatable';) as saying you landed there,

Just like the Apollo program, Apollo 8-10(?) proved it can get close to the moon, but that wasnot enough, they actually had to land (Apollo 11)

Note: A little off topic;
can you imagine spending a year in the CM, You would have so MANY cramps youd about Die when you reach gravity :lol:
 

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Forget about the cramps BJ think about the smell No proper cleaning facilites ...definatly pack the deoderant!

I think the purpose was just to say you were there. You are right Mars does offer a better long term target. The Russian probes lasted what?oooohhhh 100 minutes i think tops after landing!
 

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It's always becuase of the money. When the Earth is about to blow up, the people who critise NASA would whining for there help to get them off Earth.
 

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Besides, if you did a flyby, what would you do next, land on it? What would you do once you got there?
 
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spacecrafts can't even survive for 20 minutes, how about us???!!! LOL
 
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