News Gaddafi is killed

So, what happened to that guy the Brits let go because he was ill?

You know, the cat they pinned the Pan Am bombing on. Did the freedom loving rebels go and lynch him too? (You know, since we're throwing good money and munitions their way in order to help.)

Or is he going to be allowed to live out his worthless life because, after all, the rebels really don't give a damn about NATO anyway.

It appears to me that the puppet masters have been beaten at their own game thus far.

:facepalm:
 
The Emperor is dead, long live the Emperor!

Looks like Libya has found the way to democracy, human rights and peace.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but the few pictures I had seen while offline are nothing for a weak stomach, and while I am not really sad about Gaddafis fate (He died how he lived, who can expect more), I am pretty disgusted that he was tortured and killed in the few hours of captivity.

The people who acted like Gaddafi should die like Gaddafi. IMHO. It is a matter of being equal in front of the law. We know where it ends if people start believing that they are more equal.

yes, I know that killing him like a toy was a food therapy for the monster complex... but how many monsters do we have to kill like that until it ends?
 
this is going to sound stupid.... but I am going to say it because my coffee has not broadened my mind on my day off, lol.

I will assume they threw Fabio at his bodyguards just to get a shot on qadaffi.
speaking of...I was on stumble and found pics of his bodyguards.
 
The local papers report that a new democratic government will be installed by 2013. Some Libyians in London are saying that Syria should be next.
I closed the newspaper at that point.
 
PennyBlack said:
The local papers report that a new democratic government will be installed by 2013. Some Libyians in London are saying that Syria should be next.
I closed the newspaper at that point.
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After I had seen the Sun with "This is for Lockerbie" I also wondered how little intelligence is needed for writing for a newspaper today. There are blogs with smarter editors.
 
PennyBlack said:
The local papers report that a new democratic government will be installed by 2013. Some Libyians in London are saying that Syria should be next.
I closed the newspaper at that point.
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McCain said yesterday that Putin should now be worried. Putin's press secretary responded today that McCain apparently needed a rest.
 
SiberianTiger said:
McCain said yesterday that Putin should now be worried. Putin's press secretary responded today that McCain apparently needed a rest.
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Putin should really worry. Maybe Medvedev starts to get into his teen years by now.
 
Wishbone said:
Humanity has not gone far away from the savage state; under the thin veneer of civilization lurk unimaginable fiends.
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Most true.

The fiend is never far from the surface of those who traverse the civil roads of our states. The veneer is held, glazed and set firm by governence, via law that is dutifuly enforced. Often direct and by those chosen by the state, to whom the state would often allow ferrel exercise, to put upon the other in times that warrents it, an order to retain that veneer, to again set the glaze that holds the fiend within the boundries of civility. Laws that are in keeping to ensure life and liberty to which all are disposed in keeping. There is no relevence in the state that holds these laws, an importance of position so high, that they should negate the levy of law.

All should recieve in kind, the ferrel nature of the beast.
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Urwumpe said:
The Emperor is dead, long live the Emperor!

Looks like Libya has found the way to democracy, human rights and peace.

Sorry for the sarcasm, but the few pictures I had seen while offline are nothing for a weak stomach, and while I am not really sad about Gaddafis fate (He died how he lived, who can expect more), I am pretty disgusted that he was tortured and killed in the few hours of captivity.

The people who acted like Gaddafi should die like Gaddafi. IMHO. It is a matter of being equal in front of the law. We know where it ends if people start believing that they are more equal.

yes, I know that killing him like a toy was a food therapy for the monster complex... but how many monsters do we have to kill like that until it ends?
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Well said, Urwumpe.

Vice president Biden's comments seemed to me like he was literally celebrating murder:
"Terrible beauty"...
"Prescription for the way forward"...
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Terrible beauty? To kill someone is beauty? AND the prescription?

Ok... :shrug: , well I guess our leaders are supposed to be our role-models, so if they say it's good... I'm gonna go get my gun... my neighbors annoy me... oh, and while we're at it, I also don't like the tax-collector guy... guess I need to 2 bullets to buy me some beauty then...

I don't know. Maybe we should just start killing people. It certainly is cheaper than justice through a court-of-law.
I just feel it's more a regression than progression, but ofcourse I could just be wrong.
 
I can't see any progress in celebrating the death of a person. The life of a person, that can be celebrated. But the death, that is a pretty dangerous thing to do, because it sets precedents. Now you celebrate the death of Gaddafi and how justice came with hot lead to him.

Next the same politicians and newspaper pseudo-moralists will complain when a young person decides to shoot his teachers for giving him the same justice. And then they will blame computer games and heavy metal for the insane decisions of the young shooter again, and not look into the mirror.

On some darker moments, I really start to think that our own law-and-order politicians are not less evil than Gaddafi, they just have much less style and not enough followers to turn the country into another hell.

Does somebody remember how Gaddafi came into power? He sure did not come along alone, and his own tribe is still one of the smallest in Libya, he had no power beyond the vision that drove him. He simply believed in Nassers Arab nationalism and that the old monarchy of Libya is oppression of the people. He also did it assume power without blood-shedding. No election, just a military coup by him and 69 others of his graduating class of military academy (Most served in the signal corps, no flame-breathing elite fighters). It took 8 years until Gaddafi was supreme ruler of Libya after his coup, and if you look at what he promised and how Libya was structured by his revolution, I would suggest to be deeply scared of the Libyan future - it is all very similar to the present, but with much less violence.

Currently, there is nothing to suggest that Libya will not get ruled by the next Gaddafi.
 
Wishbone said:
Humanity has not gone far away from the savage state
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I'll like to add that one could find - if i'm not a specialist of anthropology - in the 'savage state' ( but what is a savage state ? ), here or there, some usages maybe well more civilized than those that govern us today. Potlacth ? Cf: Levi-Strauss and consorts.

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It would be necessary to reread the speech of 2010 of Khadaffi in front of the general assembly of the UN in 2010 with attention for there to distinguish what there was can be demagoguery or pure calculation politics of what could be difficult to hear for our said civilized nations. One easily finds this speech to the format text in French as in English on the web.
 
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Well we've got Joe Biden and Mrs. Clinton joking and mocking his death. I'm not shocked, as they are drunk with power at the moment.

Anyway, let's take a step back and analyze the situation for a moment.

In 2007 BP signed an agreement with the Libyan government to begin it's "single biggest exploration commitment". The deal was worth, at the least, $900 million with significant expenditures ready upon successful exploration.

Several months ago a terrorist was freed from Scotland on "compassionate" grounds. BP and it's moles in the U.K. government deny it had anything to do with trying to curry favor with the Libyans, however, many would suggest otherwise.

Not long ago, a wave of rebellion took over North Africa. People were being raped and murdered in the streets of numerous cities and towns while the world sat by and watched. Then, the rebellion moved into Libya. Now we have a problem. NATO decides something must be done to help the poor rebels and agrees to set up a "no fly zone". Somehow this "no fly zone" turns into a ground attack mission. Bunkers are busted, convoys are destroyed, etc, etc. It is obvious to most observers that NATO forces are on a manhunt.

Now the old Colonel is dead. No trial, no jury, just a bullet to the head.

My guess is the B.P. executives, as well as select members of the British and French governments will be sleeping quite soundly these days. After all, dead men tell no tales. And back here in the good 'ol U.S.A., our leaders pat each other on the back and tell the constituents what a great job we (they) did because, you know, it only cost $2 billion to get rid of the bad man with the big mouth.

Oh well.
 
Somehow this "no fly zone" turns into a ground attack mission. Bunkers are busted, convoys are destroyed, etc, etc.
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The original resolution contained provision to attack some ground targets, part of this was directly needed to enfore the no-fly zone (you can't enforce a no-fly zone without first eliminating assets such as fighter aircraft and antiair defences).
 
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