Update Deepstar development

[80mileshigh]

Marsrise ...

 

[Pioneer]

Marsrise ...

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Beautiful! Anything planned for Deimos? Always seems that it gets forgotten.

 

[n72.75]

Beautiful! Anything planned for Deimos? Always seems that it gets forgotten.

or blown up...

@80mileshigh That is looking so good. Still can't wait!

 

[Pioneer]

Is that a reference to my current favorite show? Can't wait to watch Season 5!

 

[80mileshigh]

Is that a reference to my current favorite show? Can't wait to watch Season 5!

I have to credit those guys with reigniting my interest too! Great books, good adaptation, and the reason there is a Ganymede base in Deepstar 3.0

 

[predattak]

What show are you talking about guys?

 

[Pioneer]

What show are you talking about guys?

The Expanse. The best sci-fi show out there right now.

 

[Urwumpe]

The Expanse. The best sci-fi show out there right now.

I mostly agree.

The books really are better....

 

[Dickie]

@80mileshigh - you are seriously one of my favourite people right now! Loved your previous Deepstars and this looks fantastic, can’t wait to give it a go...thank you!

 

[predattak]

Will the mini shuttle have any kind of attitude hold autopilot or we will have to land it the same horrible way like we do with the vanilla DG?

 

[Pioneer]

Will the mini shuttle have any kind of attitude hold autopilot or we will have to land it the same horrible way like we do with the vanilla DG?

Yeah that's a good point. Maybe have attitude or hover control autopilot like the ones in the XR2 and XR5? You could probably get the code from dbeachy1 if you asked nicely.

 

[predattak]

Yeah, something like xr2 would be ideal.
DG 4 also has a mode that lets you control bank, pitch and AoA XR style but a bit less accurate. Still great compared to standard.

In my opinion these semi autopilots are the best compromise between full automation and you doing something instead of total boredom during reentry. They are also more flexible than fully automated APs because if by some reason an error in the glidepath occurs you can quickly change the attitude and recover instead of shutting down the ap and reconfigure the whole thing.

 

[n72.75]

Isnt there an attitude hold MFD?

 

[predattak]

There is but it's really bad and doesn't work well. For an autopilot to work decent it needs to take into account and use everything trim, control surfaces, RCS, center of gravity and so on. those MFDs only use control surfaces and rcs if i remember correctly and because of that they can't really hold attitude well = death or really really bad flight path with giant s turns and big inaccuracy.

Think of it this way .. if there were good universal attitude hold MFDs Dan and Dbeachy wouldn't have spent tons of time coding new ones.
At least it's how i see it, i may be wrong and if any of you know some good attitude hold MFDs that work at least decent please tell me about them!

 

[Pioneer]

There is but it's really bad and doesn't work well. For an autopilot to work decent it needs to take into account and use everything trim, control surfaces, RCS, center of gravity and so on. those MFDs only use control surfaces and rcs if i remember correctly and because of that they can't really hold attitude well = death or really really bad flight path with giant s turns and big inaccuracy.

Think of it this way .. if there were good universal attitude hold MFDs Dan and Dbeachy wouldn't have spend tons of time coding new ones.
At least it's how i see it, i may be wrong and if any of you know some good attitude hold MFDs that work at least decent please tell me about them!

I do believe that there is a decent Hover MFD though, which works well with the regular landers.

 

[80mileshigh]

Just to reiterate, this is all sc4.dll based. I just make models .

I'd like to learn some coding, or maybe use vessel builder in the future, and I'm always open to collaboration with coders. But for now you'll just need to use MFDs which will work with any vessel.

For landing on planets without atmosphere I use BaseLandAutopilot MFD. In recent testing I've had it become unstable at the last moment, but it's no trouble to finish manually.

For atmospheric pad landings I've been using glidescope mfd, then hover braking and using Alt-hold before a manual touchdown.

Look's like Dan is making a VTOL MFD too.

 

[Urwumpe]

If this vessel is supposed to use bimodal NTR for propulsion, I can maybe provide a simulation model there. I am planning to put a first version on github in Q1/2021.

 

[80mileshigh]

If this vessel is supposed to use bimodal NTR for propulsion, I can maybe provide a simulation model there. I am planning to put a first version on github in Q1/2021.

That would be cool.

It seems crazy that it was a year ago today I announced I was working on this new version.

I'd really hoped I might be able to do a xmas day release, but I'm still applying some final touches.

In the meantime here's a picture of roving in Stickney Crater




Merry xmas!

 

[Urwumpe]

Well...plans. Without 2020 I wouldn't even have thought about taking a look at the NASA paper behind TTM24.

 

[Pioneer]

That would be cool.

It seems crazy that it was a year ago today I announced I was working on this new version.

I'd really hoped I might be able to do a xmas day release, but I'm still applying some final touches.

In the meantime here's a picture of roving in Stickney Crater


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Merry xmas!

Merry Christmas! Looking forward to the fully polished product!