Announcement Changes for Political & Religious Topics - "The Basement"

[Izack]

I believe the term is lava if above ground.:lol:

It's a castle for political flamewars. Where do you think it's being built?

 

[Codz]

It's a castle for political flamewars. Where do you think it's being built?

The furthest trenches of Mars?:lol:

 

[Andy44]

So why not have a special forum for flamewars? Only two posters allowed in each thread. Call it the "Thunderdome".

 

[Eli13]

So why not have a special forum for flamewars? Only two posters allowed in each thread. Call it the "Thunderdome".

Why not the "Flame Trench"?

 

[boogabooga]

What about borderline spaceflight/politics issues?

This isn't just conjecture. Space stuff gets political. Like Constellation program, SLS, James Webb Telescope funding, the role of commercial space ventures, etc...

 

[SiberianTiger]

Thanks for pointing this out. It's a slight permissions problem I over looked. For some reason, your primary group being anything except Verified Member causes the Basement to remain hidden, even after you joined the group. I fixed your account now, so you should see the forum.

Allow me to see if there is a quicker way to fix this for everyone else who has a different primary group as well, otherwise I'll have to change all of them one by one.

Thank you, it works for me now.

 

[jgrillo2002]

Thank god I always thought that talking about politics would start flame wars. Thanks for removing the section from new users

 

[Ghostrider]

Lol, you managed to put both religion and politics in the same post.

 

[Tex]

What about borderline spaceflight/politics issues?

This isn't just conjecture. Space stuff gets political. Like Constellation program, SLS, James Webb Telescope funding, the role of commercial space ventures, etc...

If it gets political, then it will be moved to the Basement.

 

[Tex]

There has been a little confusion with the Basement which is probably my fault for failing to spell out, more clearly, what is allowed and is not. So, without further ado, here you go:


The Basement Rules:

1. The Basement is for political and religious topics in which members are free to post with virtually no moderation. We are not concerned about trolling, flame wars, off-topic posts, or indescriptive thread titles. However, direct attacks against a person, group, or country will not be allowed. For example, ("you're a retard," etc.) or ("Americans are retards," etc.) is considered an attack. If you've been attacked or believe someone else has been, then you must report the post so the staff can review it and take any necessary action. Attack posts will be removed and an infraction will be issued the first time, followed by lost access to the Basement there after.

2. Discussing Orbiter-Forum staff action in the Basement is absolutely not allowed, the same as any other forum! If you have a question about a post removed from anywhere on the bulletin board or about an infraction or ban issued, then you must contact an admin or moderator, in private, by sending them a PM!

3. What is posted in the Basement, STAYS IN THE BASEMENT!! That means, talking about a thread or posts from the Basement in the chat box or any other thread on the bulletin board is NOT allowed! We're trying to avoid any of the nastiness bound to be posted in the Basement from spilling into other forums or chat areas. Any spillage from the Basement to any other part of the bulletin board will lead to a swift kick to the knee and lost access to the Basement! We are not kidding here either. If you like posting in the Basement, then it better stay in there or you will lose access to it.

 

[orb]

If it gets political, then it will be moved to the Basement.

Then all threads about NASA's future, SLS, JWST, Orion & CCDev updates may need to be moved, but then I won't post any news there any more, but just on the ChatBox.

 

[Scruce]

Thanks for removing the section from new users

The Basement section is not removed from new users. It is available to anyone regardless of posts but you have to enable it in your UserCP section.

 

[Face]

Then all threads about NASA's future, SLS, JWST, Orion & CCDev updates may need to be moved, but then I won't post any news there any more, but just on the ChatBox.

And I hope the expectation of your valuable input getting lost will in the end convince folks - interested in civil discussion on space flight topics - to let politics (and religion!) out of that equation.

 

[Tex]

Then all threads about NASA's future, SLS, JWST, Orion & CCDev updates may need to be moved, but then I won't post any news there any more, but just on the ChatBox.

We will make that call on a case by case basis. If it's a thread getting heated because of politics, then it would be better in the Basement. If the politics remain calm and on-topic with the spaceflight section, then it will stay.

 

[RichWall]

And I hope the expectation of your valuable input getting lost will in the end convince folks - interested in civil discussion on space flight topics - to let politics (and religion!) out of that equation.

It's Amazing when to know where that line is, I don't.

Censorship is a dangerous game.

 

[GigaG]

So let me get this straight - the basement can be trolled and whatnot?

 

[Codz]

So let me get this straight - the basement can be trolled and whatnot?

No. It is simply an area of reduced moderation on politically sensitive topics.

 

[Pipcard]

We will make that call on a case by case basis. If it's a thread getting heated because of politics, then it would be better in the Basement. If the politics remain calm and on-topic with the spaceflight section, then it will stay.

I'm wondering if "NASA's Future: The War Continues" belongs in the Basement.

 

[orb]

I'm wondering if "NASA's Future: The War Continues" belongs in the Basement.

I can move it there, but don't expect any new news from me posted on that thread. I observed that political discussions start on that thread after I post some news about NASA's future, so unless someone else will post news there, there will be no discussion.

 

[Tex]

So let me get this straight - the basement can be trolled and whatnot?

The best way I can answer that is to point you to the first rule of the Basement:

1. The Basement is for political and religious topics in which members are free to post with virtually no moderation. We are not concerned about trolling, flame wars, off-topic posts, or indescriptive thread titles. However, direct attacks against a person, group, or country will not be allowed. For example, ("you're a retard," etc.) or ("Americans are retards," etc.) is considered an attack.

I'm wondering if "NASA's Future: The War Continues" belongs in the Basement.

We could certainly move it there, but we are trying to give you all some leeway. Clearly spaceflight topics require some sort of political mention from time to time, but if it goes down hill, then either the entire thread will be moved to the Basement or we might split the thread where the politics took over.