Celbody modules with no source code

[Gondos]

Hi,
I'm having NaN (as in Not A Number) issues related to celbodies with binary only modules (Deimos, Phobos...). I tried to patch their config files but it turned out I made a mess of it...
Anyway, is there a reason for not having the source code for these? (licensing issues, code lost, or being so trivial as not to be deemed necessary?).
How do you cope with it in the 64bit builds BTW?
Thanks

 

[jarmonik]

They are likely third party addons included in Orbiter distribution. Who made them and is he still around ? If not then a quick fix is to replace them with Kepler elements but a better fix would be writing a replacement module.

 

[Gondos]

They are likely third party addons included in Orbiter distribution. Who made them and is he still around ? If not then a quick fix is to replace them with Kepler elements but a better fix would be writing a replacement module.

I see... A quick "strings" lookup yields two different projects being used :

c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Ariel\Release\Ariel.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Deimos\Release\Deimos.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Oberon\Release\Oberon.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Miranda\Release\Miranda.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Umbriel\Release\Umbriel.pdb
C:\Orbiter\Orbitersdk\samples\Triton\Debug\Triton.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Phobos\Release\Phobos.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Titania\Release\Titania.pdb

In case it rings a bell with someone^^

 

[n72.75]

I see... A quick "strings" lookup yields two different projects being used :

c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Ariel\Release\Ariel.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Deimos\Release\Deimos.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Oberon\Release\Oberon.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Miranda\Release\Miranda.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Umbriel\Release\Umbriel.pdb
C:\Orbiter\Orbitersdk\samples\Triton\Debug\Triton.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Phobos\Release\Phobos.pdb
c:\Orbiter patch 1\Orbitersdk\samples\Titania\Release\Titania.pdb

In case it rings a bell with someone^^

n case it rings a bell with someone^^

Phobos and Demos appear to have been added by Martin

The Uranus and Neptune moons come from Robert Stettner (Foxtrot) https://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=21108

 

[Gondos]

Phobos and Demos appear to have been added by Martin

The Uranus and Neptune moons come from Robert Stettner (Foxtrot) https://library.avsim.net/download.php?DLID=21108

I registered to AVSIM to get it^^
Looks like it's not module based but only config files, well I'll keep the ones from Orbiter for now

 

[n72.75]

I registered to AVSIM to get it^^
Looks like it's not module based but only config files, well I'll keep the ones from Orbiter for now

Ahh, okay. I probably didn't read far enough into the change-log.

 

[Ajaja]

I asked the question here:

Orbiter is now open source

I can't find source code of some Celbody modules. Ariel, Deimos, Phobos, etc. Are they not open source?

www.orbiter-forum.com

No answer.
But I use SPICE celbody module with Orbiter x64, so it's not a big problem.

 

[Gondos]

I asked the question here:

Orbiter is now open source

I can't find source code of some Celbody modules. Ariel, Deimos, Phobos, etc. Are they not open source?

www.orbiter-forum.com

No answer.
But I use SPICE celbody module with Orbiter x64, so it's not a big problem.

You must have had some fun setting this up
I quickly checked the SPICE toolkit license and it does not look to be FOSS compatible though...

 

[Ajaja]

I quickly checked the SPICE toolkit license and it does not look to be FOSS compatible though...

Why not? It's open source and "No fees or licensing are required":

Rules

 

[N_Molson]

Why not? It's open source and "No fees or licensing are required":

Rules

I'm not a specialist but licenses are a very tricky thing...

 

[Ajaja]

It's used in other open-source software like Celestia, PyKep, SpiceyPy. SpiceyPy is under MIT, Celestia and PyKep is GPL. I can't see how it may be tricky.

 

[Gondos]

It's used in other open-source software like Celestia, PyKep, SpiceyPy. SpiceyPy is under MIT, Celestia and PyKep is GPL. I can't see how it may be tricky.

I was looking at this. I'm no lawyer but it looks more complicated than MIT

 

[Sword7]

.dll files are useless for Linux and other platforms because they use .so files as shared libraries. Is that possible to replace with open source files?

 

[Ajaja]

.dll files are useless for Linux and other platforms because they use .so files as shared libraries.

Those dlls (Ariel.dll/Deimos.dll/...) are useless even with x64 Windows builds of Orbiter.

 

[Sword7]

I have SPICE toolkit. I downloaded 176 GB stuffs from NAIF website through wget. Ajaja provides SPICE interface module on GitHub so that you need SPICE toolkit to compile. I recommend making documents for developers how to get SPICE toolkit and build them into spice.dll or spice.so. I cloned Ajaja's SPICE interface from GitHub.