Project Brighton Base 2011: An Upgrade to Orbiter's Brighton Beach

[rodion_herrera]

GreaNice eye candy with the animation for the central building! I do wonder the reason for it...not a knock, just wondering.

Thanks for the comments!

Well initially I merely wanted some kind of mobile-sculpture-like element to add to the building, but I realized perhaps there's a practical purpose to the rotation of those "discs". It could be to regulate temperature--there could be water/fluid pipes in those things, and since sometimes they are exposed to the sun, and sometimes they are in the shade, perhaps this aids in regulating temp, similar to the rotisserie roll that the CSM+LM stack does on translunar/transearth coast. Or they could also regulate the temperature in those viewing areas/windows. I've been thinking that if there is a window facing the sun on the moon, and this window peers out of a pressurized environment bubble, wouldn't there be temp issues such as greenhouse effect inside the pressurized area? This is the nice thing about working with these, they make you think logically about how to set about building such structures even though you don't have a solid or hard core engineering background.

-RODION

 

[NukeET]

Thanks for the comments!

Well initially I merely wanted some kind of mobile-sculpture-like element to add to the building, but I realized perhaps there's a practical purpose to the rotation of those "discs". It could be to regulate temperature--there could be water/fluid pipes in those things, and since sometimes they are exposed to the sun, and sometimes they are in the shade, perhaps this aids in regulating temp, similar to the rotisserie roll that the CSM+LM stack does on translunar/transearth coast. Or they could also regulate the temperature in those viewing areas/windows. I've been thinking that if there is a window facing the sun on the moon, and this window peers out of a pressurized environment bubble, wouldn't there be temp issues such as greenhouse effect inside the pressurized area? This is the nice thing about working with these, they make you think logically about how to set about building such structures even though you don't have a solid or hard core engineering background.

-RODION

Thanks for sharing your insights. You make a lot of sense.

 

[Frost]

If you want one, you might have to wait--I have to ask permission from Steve Tyler if it's possible to release (or package with Brighton) a tweaked version of his meshes/textures.

-RODION[/quote]

Great job on the color, but if it's annika hansen your going for, she still needs some wire frame work.

 

[Pioneer]

:blink: All I can say is HOLY CRAP!

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Hmm... Maybe you should add a connection from every pad to the main building. That would be nice.

 

[marcheenek]

Is the base upgrade available for download somewhere? I couldn't find it in the OH and the earlier external link doesn't work either....

 

[Ripley]

I have it on my dropbox. I have posted the link somewhere maybe in this thread.
Try searching my posts in the threads about this base.

 

[Fisherman]

:blink: All I can say is HOLY CRAP!

That's all you can say? Don't they look at you funny when you go out of the house? LOL :rofl:

 

[Ripley]

Found it
http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=322613&postcount=39

 

[rodion_herrera]

Ok I realised this is place where I need to post updates, otherwise people might think I actually already released an update to BB lol.

Ok I have an issue at the moment, and it concerns running Vinka's Spacecraft3.dll with D3D11Client--I crash everytime a spacecraft3 object is declared in the scenario file. Here is my crash log:

**** Orbiter.log
Build Nov  5 2011 [v.111105]
Timer precision: 5.13155e-007 sec
Found 0 joystick(s)
Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 121120, API 100830]
Module D3D11Client.dll ....... [Build 120603, API 111105]
Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 111105, API 111105]

**** Creating simulation session
D3D11Client - version RC34.90, built Jun  3 2012 is starting up...
D3D11Client::clbkGetViewportSize
D3D11Client::clbkFullscreenMode
.
.
.
Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 111105, API 111105]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
.
.
.
Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
Module Io.dll ................ [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 111105, API 111105]
Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 100215, API 100212]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 111105, API 111105]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
Finished initialising world
Module Spacecraft3.dll ....... [Build ******, API 050206]
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Mesh file name not provided
[MeshManager::LoadMesh | .\Mesh.cpp | 1179]
===============================================================
============================ ERROR: ===========================
Invalid mesh handle. Returned 0. (Continuing)
[oapiMeshGroupCount | .\OrbiterAPI.cpp | 1263]
===============================================================

So unless I solve this, I can't have any animations etc for BB2013 Or perhaps I need to downgrade to OrbiterBeta+D3D9? I hope anyone can shed light on this--I have lots of plans for hardware-rendered lighting for the base, and this needs the OVP.

-RODION

 

[Mister Kite]

Did you do the "Create symbolic link"?

 

[rodion_herrera]

Did you do the "Create symbolic link"?

Unfortunately, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about? Please enlighten me?

-RODION

 

[Mister Kite]

In the launcher, go to: Video > Advanced > then press the Create Symbolic Link button.
That did it for me.

 

[rodion_herrera]

In the launcher, go to: Video > Advanced > then press the Create Symbolic Link button.
That did it for me.

I shall try that! Thanks!

-RODION

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Hmmm, I don't seem to see any "Advanced" button on the "Video" panel.

-RODION

 

[orb]

Hmmm, I don't seem to see any "Advanced" button on the "Video" panel.

I haven't used D3D11Client, but according to the D3D11Client development thread "Create Symbolic Links" is implemented in "terrain" branch only, and from a screenshot I saw, there's no "Advanced" button, but "D3D11Client Configuration" button instead.

 

[Mister Kite]

Sorry, my bad.
I misread D3D11Client for D3D9Client.
Still haven't got the D3D11Client working yet.

 

[rodion_herrera]

Hmmm so looks like I really need to try out and/or use D3D9Client instead of D3D11Client, if only for stability. Thanks for input guys.

-RODION

 

[Ripley]

For a little guide about symlinks, check out my addons on OH.

Never mind, there you go...might have missed the detail about terrain branch orb just said.
[ame="http://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=5854"]Junction Points & Symbolic Links - rev. 2[/ame]

 

[rodion_herrera]

Maybe I'm using an older build of D3D11Client because I still don't see the "Create Symbolic Links" option on my tabs.

v111105 ?

-RODION

 

[orb]

Maybe I'm using an older build of D3D11Client because I still don't see the "Create Symbolic Links" option on my tabs.

built Jun 3 2012

Sep 16, 2012:

Added "Create Symbolic Links" functionality

You can either install D3D9Client along with D3D11Client and temporarily switch to it to create the links if you don't want newer version of D3D11Client, or get this: http://schinagl.priv.at/nt/hardlinkshellext/hardlinkshellext.html, and create the required symbolic links or directory junctions by hand.

 

[rodion_herrera]

Ok so based on several tests, Standard (not Beta) Orbiter 2010 install, plus the D3D9ClientR10 is pretty stable, both for XR2 and my current Brighton Base 2011 (with parts animated by Spacecraft3.dll). So, I will release two versions of Bright Base 2013--one specifically for the above combination of install, and I will also release a NON-ANIMATED (you don't need dpacecraft3.dll) version, specifically designed for an OrbiterBeta plus D3D11Client install. Then if I can squeeze yet more time, I'll release low/optimised poly version for each.

The main thing about the update would be that, apart from option downloads like spacecraft3, XR-addons, OrbiterSound and UCGO, people won't be required to download anything else--it will be a purely self-contained download this time. And the addon will (hopefully) have a permanent download link from now on.

-RODION