Updates Artemis Program Updates & Discussions
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If it is delayed it is delayed.
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Yeah. For years. Until it gets canceled.
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Or they just deteriorate into a rust pile.
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On Friday, with less than an hour's notice, David Dutcher, Boeing's vice president and program manager for the SLS rocket, scheduled an all-hands meeting for the approximately 800 employees working on the program. The apparently scripted meeting lasted just six minutes, and Dutcher didn't take questions.
During his remarks, Dutcher said Boeing's contracts for the rocket could end in March and that the company was preparing for layoffs in case the contracts with the space agency were not renewed. "Cold and scripted" is how one person described Dutcher's demeanor.
Well, it's almost official.
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When Trump implemented the program over seven years ago now or at least the funding, it was at the time, the only way.
Hmm, with the Musk venture on the horizon, his project is starting to look like something of the future, where as the program that was the vehicle to the moon is starting to resemble the last century of rocket flight. Starship is something ahead of the covential old chemical rocket engine. It isn't quite impulse drive or even warp 1.
Hmm, with the Musk venture on the horizon, his project is starting to look like something of the future, where as the program that was the vehicle to the moon is starting to resemble the last century of rocket flight. Starship is something ahead of the covential old chemical rocket engine. It isn't quite impulse drive or even warp 1.
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The whole SLS program was cursed from the start. Utilizing bloated and corrupt Boeing as the prime contractor for SLS and Orion with "cost plus contracting" that incentivizes cost overruns along with no clear space strategy. Not to mention the asinine Artemis architecture with a Starship moon lander. Looks like it will only be the latter at this point. $2.5 billion for a single launch? Outrageous.
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More nails being hammered into the coffin...
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Only because of Space exploration tech, had it not been for that, the program was the only one in town. When Obama was in the whitehouse, his claim was to mars within twenty years, and now Musk has a rocket that could very well take hardware to Mars, with the capability to send Astronauts. None of that was doable in Obama's last year of his term, or in Trump's first government.
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That doesn't even matter if you don't have a parliament that supports what the president says. Elon Musk will soon find out that this also applies to too expensive cost-cutters.
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Perhaps, the way this seems to going is Musk is Trump's close associate for policy change. The libertarians are supporting all these changes taking place. I can't help but feel the government's general outlook is now to scale back a lot, and use or not to use any of those funds to fund other programmes or just make savings to control the debt. Washington DC has a lot of government job occupations and the neighbouring counties appear to have wealth from this.
USaid will affect several million people in Africa.
The US space program has never really benefitted from peace, it began or space flight operations began sadly, due to taxpayer funded military setups.
So a few million there, here, there, over there, makes not much a difference in the current US government outlook. Never mind about agenda 2025 or what ever that is.
The congress could very well support a mars program due to Musk's company, if proven successful to do what the aims are.
USaid will affect several million people in Africa.
The US space program has never really benefitted from peace, it began or space flight operations began sadly, due to taxpayer funded military setups.
So a few million there, here, there, over there, makes not much a difference in the current US government outlook. Never mind about agenda 2025 or what ever that is.
The congress could very well support a mars program due to Musk's company, if proven successful to do what the aims are.
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The government doesn't shrink at all. It just becomes more corrupt. Musk has not saved money sofar, but grabbed a lot of tax payers money without competition. Orders of magnitude more than his rage against any agency, that was checking his own relations to the US government in the past years, has saved so far. Yeah, they will give him a Mars program. And the money will be gone, fueling the next hype for stupid cryptobros.
As usual, libertarians are like house cats. They are convinced of their fierce independence while utterly dependent on a system they don’t appreciate or understand.
(And thats an insult to house cats. These actually understand and appreciate the system well. They even try to contribute to the community by bringing food on the table and teaching them how to play and hunt. And the humans can't appreciate or understand it.)
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The programmes scheduled for removal aren't completely finished, it isn't known for certain where this goes.
As for the libertarian view, Paul associates, they do live in their own reality. I remember the guy who has Cuban parents, he speaks regulary on the libertyreport via online. He once said, a computer is all setup by the free market and so on, but in reality, computers like phones need resources and are a lot from Africa, where there is a lot of slavery going on. So nothing in reality is perfect and done honestly, there is a price being paid, no place can get wealthy without a rubbish deal for those who need to supply. Like clothing from Bangladesh, historically there is somebody earning little, rubbish deal, employers, competition markets, there is no real genuine honest trade and production.
They are waiting for a complete removal of the funny money, or excessive spending to end. Department of education, IRS, the FBI.
As for the libertarian view, Paul associates, they do live in their own reality. I remember the guy who has Cuban parents, he speaks regulary on the libertyreport via online. He once said, a computer is all setup by the free market and so on, but in reality, computers like phones need resources and are a lot from Africa, where there is a lot of slavery going on. So nothing in reality is perfect and done honestly, there is a price being paid, no place can get wealthy without a rubbish deal for those who need to supply. Like clothing from Bangladesh, historically there is somebody earning little, rubbish deal, employers, competition markets, there is no real genuine honest trade and production.
They are waiting for a complete removal of the funny money, or excessive spending to end. Department of education, IRS, the FBI.
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The good old difference between "Every market is free" and "Only an atomic market is free". And "atomic" simply means: All participants have about the same power and information, nobody has any advantage. But thanks to ideas like business intelligence and AI, we are approaching the point were even the market for your breakfast isn't free. The large companies try to know more about you than you do, worse, try to control what you know about them. They try to influence also, how you think about them and make you do politics in their favor, even to the point of harming yourself. It a scary dystopic present if you understand the technology and the possibilities. Now, it might be still possible to detect if somebody used an AI to manipulate you. In five years, you can't. In ten years, even a professional won't be able to tell if he is seeing a genuine video of something or AI generated content. At one point, its even impossible to tell if you are interacting with an AI or a real human via the internet. Maybe even impossible to tell if the member of parliament or president actually exists in reality. And thats pretty scary. Imagine a North Korea with an AI generated leader. Or a digital theocracy.
Thats the danger if you let too much power and knowledge get into one hand. Prevent it. Having the largest companies in the world is not a victory of the free economy, its its downfall. Its time to conquer the economy back.
Thats the danger if you let too much power and knowledge get into one hand. Prevent it. Having the largest companies in the world is not a victory of the free economy, its its downfall. Its time to conquer the economy back.
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The former representative from Texas Ron Paul said, the world needed more google companies, that was a good while ago now.
The point about the technology changes. Hmm, perhaps, it isn't for certain that it will mature that way. By reversing the programmes that help poorer countries, it might affect the economy or stability of the countries.
The point about the technology changes. Hmm, perhaps, it isn't for certain that it will mature that way. By reversing the programmes that help poorer countries, it might affect the economy or stability of the countries.
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They forgot the #toobigtofail
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So they've found a way to brag about how much money they're spending on the project. Good for them, I guess?
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