Request Artemis landers

[pappy2]

Indeed no lights.
But this may change as the astronauts will work at the south pole of the Moon with a weaker and more grazing sun with long shadows.
The lack of lights could be a handicap for the Lunar workers.

 

[barrygolden]

Yes I don't see any lights but if you remember working near the south pole in 2010 it was pretty dark and hard to see. I did some light sticks stuck in the ground and we'll need those as well.

 

[barrygolden]

Yes red and green lights plus a strobe on top. It will need some eva lights under the frame to light up area near the ALPACA or maybe 1 over the door for the front and stair area.

Just a thought about a lunar flyer instead of a rover for Artemis 3. also I think a smaller back pack for this mission, all 4 will need to be stored inside

 

[Gargantua2024]

Tried to land near the lunar south pole, but the 2016 terrain rendered there bugs
Here's the scenario:

BEGIN_DESC
ALPACA near the lunar south pole
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 60305.6171309292
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship array
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET array
  MODE Extern
  POS 34.358235 -137.740156 -7.380147
  TRACKMODE TargetRelative
  FOV 40.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  ALT
  REF Moon
END_MFD

BEGIN_SHIPS
PPE:NEWPPB
  ANT1 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  IONARM 0 0.0000
  PANEL1 1 1.0000
  SOLP 0 0.0000 1 0.6511
  PANELEXT 1 1.0000
  PANELEND 1 1.0000
  eng_conf 0
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -11932135.131 1644878.902 -6076605.438
  RVEL -485.1643 -376.0404 -192.4145
  AROT -148.080 42.334 -161.249
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 0:0,HALO
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
END
HALO:HAB1
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -11932140.546 1644875.760 -6076610.482
  RVEL -485.1643 -376.0404 -192.4145
  AROT 31.920 -42.334 -18.751
  AFCMODE 7
  DOCKINFO 0:0,PPE 1:0,Airlock1 2:0,Orion 3:0,Airlock2
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Airlock1:dsg1
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -11932145.333 1644872.981 -6076614.942
  RVEL -485.1643 -376.0404 -192.4145
  AROT 31.920 -42.334 -18.751
  AFCMODE 7
  DOCKINFO 0:1,HALO
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Airlock2:AIRLOCKMODULE
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -11932144.618 1644875.664 -6076607.705
  RVEL -485.1643 -376.0404 -192.4145
  AROT -174.832 -44.427 19.436
  AFCMODE 7
  DOCKINFO 0:3,HALO
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Orion:Orion-MPCV\Orion-MPCV
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -11932136.750 1644874.941 -6076615.699
  RVEL -485.1643 -376.0404 -192.4145
  AROT 5.168 44.427 -19.436
  RCSMODE 2
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.999104
  DOCKINFO 0:2,HALO
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 468
  MODE 1
END
ALPACA:VesselBuilder1\Dynetictest
  STATUS Landed Moon
  POS -85.3260000 -88.0000000
  HEADING 77.56
  ALT 2.897
  AROT 177.451 -82.231 0.573
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:0.220000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  EVENTS_CONSUMED 0,1
  ANIM_0 0.00000 0
  ANIM_1 0.00000 0
  ANIM_2 0.00000 0
  ANIM_3 0.00000 0
  ANIM_4 0.00000 0
  ANIM_5 0.00000 0
  MESH_DELETED 1,2
END
array:DYNETICSARRAY
  SOLP 0 0.0000 1 0.8225
  PANELEXT 0 0.0000
  STATUS Landed Moon
  POS 0.0000000 0.0000000
  HEADING 0.00
  ALT 0.000
  AROT 0.000 -0.000 0.000
  ATTACHED 0:0,ALPACA
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 468
END
END_SHIPS

I can't place it any nearer to Shackleton Crater because the lander sinks into the terrain due to rendering reasons

 

[gattispilot]

Now we get this for the suit:

I think I need to make these changes:

Flag on the left shoulder. But Artemis on the shoulder or center and NASA on the shoulder or center?
Side:

and the changes I think need to happen.

No sure where to add lights? I guess on the knob for the visor.

For the lander Side shields will be up.

 

[barrygolden]

Look at the guy on the right and you'll see a small box on the helmet, that should be the light. it would be good if like AMSO you could hit some keys and the shades deployed . hit 2 keys and the side shades and the middle shade would come down.

 

[barrygolden]

the landing zone might need 4th rock to look at. He did super job with AMSO LZ's in 2010

 

[gattispilot]

Look at the guy on the right and you'll see a small box on the helmet, that should be the light. it would be good if like AMSO you could hit some keys and the shades deployed . hit 2 keys and the side shades and the middle shade would come down.

I thought about that but that seems to be part of the shield? Or is that part always like that and not a moveable shield

 

[barrygolden]

the shades come out from underneath the hard shell so the lights could be on that.
might need to look for a new landing zone near lunar ice

note the helmet lights and light sticks

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. On the lander the crew is just a mesh that press a KEy and they move back out of sight.
I suppose it is possible to press a key on the lander and the shield move. But not lights on the helmet

Another option is make an attachment point where you attach a crew person vessel where the shields and lights would work. Not sure if you can move the attachment point.

Also I guess we need a outside lander guy with the backpack on.

If we have Ummu then we could do the light sticks. Right now they would be vessels and just add and move like a vessel

 

[barrygolden]

the lander will need a light over the door and the guys will need lights on Helmets like your Constellation guys

LPI has released a map of targets for potential Artemis landing zones

 

[Gargantua2024]

Wait they're also planning to land on the Far Side of the Moon?

 

[gattispilot]

Can you make a scn for the SLS and the Lander?

I plan to add the lights this weekend and maybe finish the crew mesh

 

[Gargantua2024]

Sure thing...I'll try to put it on a Block 1B

 

[Gargantua2024]

SLS (Block 1B) and ALPACA test...


The whole lander fits pefectly inside the fairings, but it seems like the lander needed an adapter for the droptanks if it were to be launched entirely on an SLS

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks. Yes. I will make the structure. (Red circle) I am not sure what those yellow structures are. They seem to go away. Seems HGA are rotated down?

.. Can you post the scn. I will make the adapter a cfg vessel and add it

 

[gattispilot]

new eva guy:

with backpack one

And without.

Really all that is left is the details. Need to figure what goes on the right shoulder and center chest?

 

[barrygolden]

Looks super I would use the Artemis patch on the Chest and this 3d meatball on the right sleeve. Solid red stripe for the commander on the left side and I would use the candy cane stripe for the pilot on the right. the guys in the back would have the broken stripe and one with no stripe. maybe one of the guys in back would have the easa patch on right sleeve and one with the jaxa patch I would make smaller back packs due to the cabin size.

 

[gattispilot]

Lander crew. side shield up/down?
We get this for 2 lander crew.

Crew for lander are meshes only. So no animation, lights,.......

 

[gattispilot]

Added 3 beacons to the cfg and made the change in mesh 0. add a spotlight. Someone might want to move the light where they want