Project Apollo Collaborative (Vessel Builder + Multistage)

DDASSSSS said:
It looks like an antenna is popped open, anybody got any ideas on how to fix it.

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Gargantua2024 said:
Unfortunately there's no way to stow the antennas in AMSO
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It is already pointed by @4throck, "As in [Multistage Saturns for Orbiter] 2010, the SM's antenna is open at liftoff." However, it doesn't matter if you just wanna simulate the mission and not experience realism. The camera view can be adjusted to make the SM antenna disappear from your view, although it is still open in the far side.

Edit: I think using AMSO command module and NASSP service module would be better, but how to tie the bell to the cat? My bad on suggesting something that OF members who aren't add-on devs will experiment.
 
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Soumya-8974 said:
It is already pointed by @4throck, "As in [Multistage Saturns for Orbiter] 2010, the SM's antenna is open at liftoff." However, it doesn't matter if you just wanna simulate the mission and not experience realism. The camera view can be adjusted to make the SM antenna disappear from your view, although it is still open in the far side.

Edit: I think using AMSO command module and NASSP service module would be better, but how to tie the bell to the cat?
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Hmm, I am probably going to try it, but It may not be possible though.
 
DDASSSSS said:
Just added the NASSP SM to the cfg file, but it still crashes.
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Here's my Orbiter log after launching it in Orbiter.exe.

Code: 
**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloConfigurator.dll  [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 200811, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Meshdebug.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module TrackIR.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: TrackIR module not found.
000000.000: Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module GenericCamera.dll ..... [Build 210421, API 160828]
000000.000: Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloMFD.dll .. [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module transx.dll ............ [Build 160216, API 160214]
000000.000: Module ApolloRTCCMFD.dll ..... [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module LunarTransferMFD.dll .. [Build 191224, API 160828]
000000.000: Module PursuitMFD_2016.dll ... [Build 171119, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Multistage2015_MFD.dll  [Build 170506, API 160828]
000000.000: Module uap.dll ............... [Build 110613, API 100830]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DX9ExtMFD.dll ......... [Build 210421, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Framerate.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Rcontrol.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000:
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Window 1274 x 691 x 32
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_BLTFASTCANTCLIP
000000.000: >>> [OrbiterGraphics::clbkBlt | .\OGraphics.cpp | 1633]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
--------------------------- WARNING: --------------------------
[QUOTE]
>> Texture not found: tycho_base.dds
[/QUOTE]
Skipping.
[QUOTE]
>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 1040]
[/QUOTE]
---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module Multistage2015.dll .... [Build 170506, API 160828]
000000.000: Multistage Version: 170506
000000.000: Load State Started
000000.000: SaturnIB: Guidance File present: Config/Multistage2015/AMSO/SaturnIB_guidance.txt
000000.000: SaturnIB: Sound found @step 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Orbit Call Found! Targets: Apogee:284000.0 Perigee:228000.0 Inclination:31.6 Mode:-1.0 GT initial Pitch: 79.0 Abside:228000.0
000000.000: SaturnIB: Config File: C:\Orbiter 2016\Config/Multistage2015/AMSO/SaturnIB.ini
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of Interstages in the ini file: 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of stages in the ini file: 2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of boosters group in the ini file: 0
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of Payloads in the ini file: 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: LES Found
000000.000: SaturnIB: This Rocket Has Fairing
000000.000: SaturnIB: Thrust in Real Position
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.1 Loaded Exhaust2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.2 Loaded ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.3 Loaded Contrail3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.4 Loaded Contrail
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 2 Tank Added: 105900.000 kg
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Tank Added: 407084.000 kg
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 0.000 y: 1.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.000 y: 0.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 0.000 y: -1.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.4
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.000 y: 0.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.5
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.800 y: 1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.6
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.800 y: 1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.7
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.800 y: -1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.8
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.800 y: -1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Mesh Preloaded: ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Mesh Added Mesh: ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1 @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:0.000
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.2 Mesh Preloaded: ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.2 Mesh Added Mesh: ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2 @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:27.950
000000.000: SaturnIB: Interstage Mesh Preloaded for Stage 2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Interstage Mesh Added: ProjectApollo\nsat1intstg @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:16.250
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_1 @ x:-2.500 y:0.000 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_2 @ x:-0.000 y:-2.500 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_3 @ x:2.500 y:-0.000 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_4
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_4 @ x:0.000 y:2.500 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Adapter Mesh Preloaded
000000.000: SaturnIB: Adapter Mesh Added: ProjectApollo\apollo8_lta @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:36.000
000000.000: SaturnIB: Les Mesh Preloaded
000000.000: SaturnIB: Les Mesh Added ProjectApollo\BoostCover @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:53.500
000000.000: Load State Terminated
000000.000: Module LC34.dll .............. [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module EmptyModule.dll ....... [Build 170505, API 160828]
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: Post Creation Started
000000.000: SaturnIB: Gravity Turn Initial Pitch by user: 79.000 Calculated:83.350
000000.000: RESET PEG
000000.000: SaturnIB: Planet Reference Pressure = 101325.0 Pa  Atmosphere Altitude Limit:2500.0 km
000000.000: Post Creation Terminated
000000.000: Finished initialising panels
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: -3.000,-0.900,15.000 dir: -1.000,0.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 3.000,0.900,15.000 dir: 1.000,0.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: -0.900,3.000,15.000 dir: 0.000,1.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 0.900,-3.000,15.000 dir: 0.000,-1.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 2.100,2.450,23.000 dir: 1.000,0.000,0.000
 
@DDASSSSS I could not believe that you would try my guesstimated suggestion, because testing with alternative service modules is upto the add-on devs.
 
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Here's the Orbiter after siwtching SOL from AMSO to NASSP.

Code: 
**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 1e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (Intel(R) Iris(R) Plus Graphics) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloConfigurator.dll  [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 200811, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ScnEditor.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Meshdebug.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module TrackIR.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: TrackIR module not found.
000000.000: Module CustomMFD.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module GenericCamera.dll ..... [Build 210421, API 160828]
000000.000: Module LuaMFD.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ProjectApolloMFD.dll .. [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module transx.dll ............ [Build 160216, API 160214]
000000.000: Module ApolloRTCCMFD.dll ..... [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module LunarTransferMFD.dll .. [Build 191224, API 160828]
000000.000: Module PursuitMFD_2016.dll ... [Build 171119, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Multistage2015_MFD.dll  [Build 170506, API 160828]
000000.000: Module uap.dll ............... [Build 110613, API 100830]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiRegisterMFDMode
000000.000: At least one active module is accessing an obsolete interface function.
000000.000: Addons which rely on obsolete functions may not be compatible with
000000.000: future versions of Orbiter.
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module LuaConsole.dll ........ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ScriptMFD.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DX9ExtMFD.dll ......... [Build 210421, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ExtMFD.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module FlightData.dll ........ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Framerate.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Rcontrol.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Window 1274 x 691 x 32
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_BLTFASTCANTCLIP
000000.000: >>> [OrbiterGraphics::clbkBlt | .\OGraphics.cpp | 1633]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_INVALIDPARAMS
000000.000: >>> [ReadDDSSurface | .\Texture.cpp | 292]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
============================ ERROR: ===========================
ReadDDSSurface failed (code: -2147024809)
[TextureManager::LoadTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 1227]
===============================================================
--------------------------- WARNING: --------------------------
>>> Texture not found: ProjectApollo\LC39a.dds
Skipping.
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 1040]
---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_INVALIDPARAMS
000000.000: >>> [ReadDDSSurface | .\Texture.cpp | 292]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
============================ ERROR: ===========================
ReadDDSSurface failed (code: -2147024809)
[TextureManager::LoadTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 1227]
===============================================================
--------------------------- WARNING: --------------------------
>>> Texture not found: ProjectApollo\LC39a.dds
Skipping.
>>> [TextureManager::AcquireTexture | .\Texture.cpp | 1040]
---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module Multistage2015.dll .... [Build 170506, API 160828]
000000.000: Multistage Version: 170506
000000.000: Load State Started
000000.000: SaturnIB: Guidance File present: Config/Multistage2015/AMSO/SaturnIB_guidance.txt
000000.000: SaturnIB: Sound found @step 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Orbit Call Found! Targets: Apogee:284000.0 Perigee:228000.0 Inclination:31.6 Mode:-1.0 GT initial Pitch: 79.0 Abside:228000.0
000000.000: SaturnIB: Config File: C:\Orbiter 2016\Config/Multistage2015/AMSO/SaturnIB.ini
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of Interstages in the ini file: 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of stages in the ini file: 2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of boosters group in the ini file: 0
000000.000: SaturnIB: Number of Payloads in the ini file: 1
000000.000: SaturnIB: LES Found
000000.000: SaturnIB: This Rocket Has Fairing
000000.000: SaturnIB: Thrust in Real Position
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.1 Loaded Exhaust2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.2 Loaded ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.3 Loaded Contrail3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Texture n.4 Loaded Contrail
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 2 Tank Added: 105900.000 kg
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Tank Added: 407084.000 kg
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 0.000 y: 1.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.000 y: 0.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 0.000 y: -1.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.4
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.000 y: 0.000 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.5
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.800 y: 1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.6
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.800 y: 1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.7
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: 1.800 y: -1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Engine Exhaust Stream Added: satcontrail to engine n.8
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n. 1 Engines Exhaust Added--> number of engines: 8 , diameter: 0.820, position x: -1.800 y: -1.800 z: -10.300
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Mesh Preloaded: ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.1 Mesh Added Mesh: ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1 @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:0.000
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.2 Mesh Preloaded: ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Stage n.2 Mesh Added Mesh: ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2 @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:27.950
000000.000: SaturnIB: Interstage Mesh Preloaded for Stage 2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Interstage Mesh Added: ProjectApollo\nsat1intstg @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:16.250
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_1
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_1 @ x:-2.500 y:0.000 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_2
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_2 @ x:-0.000 y:-2.500 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_3
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_3 @ x:2.500 y:-0.000 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Preloaded: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_4
000000.000: SaturnIB: Fairing Mesh Added Mesh: apollocollab\nsat1stg2_4 @ x:0.000 y:2.500 z:38.100
000000.000: SaturnIB: Adapter Mesh Preloaded
000000.000: SaturnIB: Adapter Mesh Added: ProjectApollo\apollo8_lta @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:36.000
000000.000: SaturnIB: Les Mesh Preloaded
000000.000: SaturnIB: Les Mesh Added ProjectApollo\BoostCover @ x:0.000 y:0.000 z:53.500
000000.000: Load State Terminated
000000.000: Module LC34.dll .............. [Build 200812, API 190914]
000000.000: Module EmptyModule.dll ....... [Build 170505, API 160828]
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: Post Creation Started
000000.000: SaturnIB: Gravity Turn Initial Pitch by user: 79.000 Calculated:83.350
000000.000: RESET PEG
000000.000: SaturnIB: Planet Reference Pressure = 101325.0 Pa  Atmosphere Altitude Limit:2500.0 km
000000.000: Post Creation Terminated
000000.000: Finished initialising panels
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: -3.000,-0.900,15.000 dir: -1.000,0.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 3.000,0.900,15.000 dir: 1.000,0.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: -0.900,3.000,15.000 dir: 0.000,1.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 0.900,-3.000,15.000 dir: 0.000,-1.000,0.000
000000.000: Venting Effect Added @: 2.100,2.450,23.000 dir: 1.000,0.000,0.000
 
Update: Is currently at a complete state of confusion, even though I've been trying Orbiter keeps crashing.
 
Uh, my curse! If I did not suggest about changing service module, @DDASSSSS would not have to suffer from unknown CTDs.
 
DDASSSSS said:
Yes, and for some reason I'm trying to figure out what is wrong, any ideas.
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Hmm, I see that the SM is missing in the Saturn 1B config files. Probably that's why I'm having problems, I'm not sure what to add to a new section I added. Here's my Saturn 1B MS2015 config file.

Code: 
[MISC]
cog=9.000
focus=1
Thrust_real_pos=1


[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust2
TEX_2=ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
TEX_3=Contrail3
TEX_4=Contrail

[PARTICLESTREAM_1]
NAME=Satcontrail
SRCSIZE=0.82
SRCRATE=2000
V0=160
SRCSPREAD=0.02
LIFETIME=0.4
GROWTHRATE=10
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.4
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_SQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-5
AMAX=1
TEX=contrail3
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=2

[PARTICLESTREAM_2]
Name=vent
amin = 1e-006
amax = 0.1
atmslowdown = 3
growthrate = 1.2
lifetime = 4.5
lmax = 0.5
lmin = 0
srcrate = 15
srcsize = 0.4
v0 = 1
ltype = EMISSIVE
atmsmap = ATM_PLOG
levelmap = LVL_PSQRT
tex = contrail

[PARTICLESTREAM_3]
NAME=mach
SRCSIZE=7
SRCRATE=120
V0=12
SRCSPREAD=0
LIFETIME=0.25
GROWTHRATE=6
ATMSLOWDOWN=0
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=4
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=0.7e-7
AMAX=1
TEX= contrail

[FX_VENT]
pstream=vent
off_1=(-3,-0.9,15)
dir_1=(-1,0,0)
time_fin_1=-8
off_2=(3,0.9,15)
dir_2=(1,0,0)
time_fin_2=-8
off_3=(-0.9,3,15)
dir_3=(0,1,0)
time_fin_3=-8
off_4=(0.9,-3,15)
dir_4=(0,-1,0)
time_fin_4=-8
off_5=(2.1,2.45,23)
dir_5=(1,0,0)
time_fin_5=-8

[FX_MACH]
pstream=mach
mach_min=0.9
mach_max=1.1
off_1=(0,0,45)
dir=(0,0,-1)

[STAGE_1]
Height=24.48
Diameter=6.52
EmptyMass=41594  ;38878
FuelMass=407084 ;411953
Thrust=8241630 ;7117155
BurnTime=143 ;150
off=(0,0,0)
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1
ENG_TEX=Exhaust2
ENG_1=(0,1,-10.3)
ENG_2=(1,0,-10.3)
ENG_3=(0,-1,-10.3)
ENG_4=(-1,0,-10.3)
ENG_5=(1.8,1.8,-10.3)
ENG_6=(-1.8,1.8,-10.3)
ENG_7=(1.8,-1.8,-10.3)
ENG_8=(-1.8,-1.8,-10.3)
ENG_DIAMETER=0.82
ENG_PSTREAM1=Satcontrail
speed=(0,0,-10)
rot_speed=(0.02,0.01,0)
PITCHTHRUST=1500000.0
YAWTHRUST=1500000.0
ROLLTHRUST=70000.0


[SEPARATION_12]
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nsat1intstg
Off=(0,0,16.25)
speed=(0,0,-10)
Height=5.70
Diameter=6.52
EmptyMass=2996.0

[STAGE_2]
Height=17.8
Diameter=6.61
EmptyMass=12900 ;12495
FuelMass=105900 ;105795
Thrust=1031600 ;924349 
BurnTime=475 ;480
Ignite_Delay=3
off=(0,0,27.95)
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2
ENG_TEX=ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
ENG_1=(0,0,-11)
ENG_DIAMETER=2.01
speed=(0,0,0)
rot_speed=(0,0,0)
PITCHTHRUST=15000
YAWTHRUST=15000
ROLLTHRUST=700
Ullage_thrust=100974.631
Ullage_Anticipation=1.5
Ullage_overlap=1.2
Ullage_N=3
Ullage_angle=65
Ullage_diameter=0.3175
Ullage_length=10
Ullage_dir=(0.5,0,-1)
Ullage_pos=(3.8,0,-5.65)

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName=AMSO\Apollo_vessel1
Off=(0.000,0.000,45.000)
Height=10.000
Diameter=6.610
Module=AMSO\Apollo
Name=AS-508
Render=1
Live=1
Rotation=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Mass=14739.000
Speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Rot_speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000) 

[PAYLOAD_2] 
MeshName=ProjectApollo\SM 

[LES]
Meshname=ProjectApollo\BoostCover
Off=(0.000,0.000,53.500)
Height=11.900
Diameter=4.000
Emptymass=4025.000
Speed=(0.000,-5.000,30.000)
Rot_speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Module=Stage


[FAIRING]
Meshname=apollocollab\nsat1stg2
Off=(0.000,2.500,38.100)
N=4
Angle=180.000
Diameter=10.000
Height=31.350
EmptyMass=1789.000
Speed=(0.000,10.000,0.000)
Rot_Speed=(0.000,10.000,0.000)
Module=Stage
[ADAPTER]
Meshname=ProjectApollo\apollo8_lta
Off=(0.000,0.000,36.000)
Height=2.000
Diameter=2.000
EmptyMass=100.000

Also the part,
Code: 
[PAYLOAD_2] 
MeshName=ProjectApollo\SM
is the part I need help on.
 
Delete the second part and it will work. I no longer recommend the method of using NASSP SM.

Anyway, @4throck, can you build Saturn V for Skylab?
 
Since the MS2015 format of the Saturn 1Bs coded by both 1987VCRProductions' Multistage2015 Saturn for Orbiter 2016 and 4throck's Apollo Collaborative are virtually the same, I think I'll just post it here....

I finally solved the issue why the Saturn 1B underperforms during launch! It seems that the culprit is the 79 degree GravTurnPitch that was declared on the right-end of the orbit parameter inside the guidance file:
Code: 
10=orbit(154,173,51.75,-1,79)
When I removed that 79 from the guidance file, then adding three pitch maneuvers onto the guidance file, the Saturn 1B can now reach orbit!
Code: 
10=orbit(154,173,51.75,-1)
30=pitch(87,80,20)
40=pitch(80,75,10)
50=pitch(75,65,60)
This is made when I was refining the Saturn 1B for the ASTP mission (which uses the same format as Apollo Collaborative's). In addition, the fairing SLAs now deploy properly when jettisoned
1622121675028.png
Code for Saturn 1B (ASTP):
Code: 
[MISC]
cog=57
focus=1
Thrust_real_pos=1


[TEXTURE_LIST]
TEX_1=Exhaust2
TEX_2=ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
TEX_3=Contrail3
TEX_4=Contrail

[PARTICLESTREAM_1]
NAME=Satcontrail
SRCSIZE=0.82
SRCRATE=2000
V0=160
SRCSPREAD=0.02
LIFETIME=0.4
GROWTHRATE=10
ATMSLOWDOWN=0.4
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_SQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=1
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=1e-5
AMAX=1
TEX=contrail3
GROWFACTOR_RATE=6
GROWFACTOR_SIZE=2

[PARTICLESTREAM_2]
Name=vent
amin = 1e-006
amax = 0.1
atmslowdown = 3
growthrate = 1.2
lifetime = 4.5
lmax = 0.5
lmin = 0
srcrate = 15
srcsize = 0.4
v0 = 1
ltype = EMISSIVE
atmsmap = ATM_PLOG
levelmap = LVL_PSQRT
tex = contrail

[PARTICLESTREAM_3]
NAME=mach
SRCSIZE=7
SRCRATE=120
V0=12
SRCSPREAD=0
LIFETIME=0.25
GROWTHRATE=6
ATMSLOWDOWN=0
LTYPE=EMISSIVE
LEVELMAP=LVL_PSQRT
LMIN=0
LMAX=4
ATMSMAP=ATM_PLOG
AMIN=0.7e-7
AMAX=1
TEX= contrail

[FX_VENT]
pstream=vent
off_1=(-3,-0.9,15)
dir_1=(-1,0,0)
time_fin_1=-8
off_2=(3,0.9,15)
dir_2=(1,0,0)
time_fin_2=-8
off_3=(-0.9,3,15)
dir_3=(0,1,0)
time_fin_3=-8
off_4=(0.9,-3,15)
dir_4=(0,-1,0)
time_fin_4=-8
off_5=(2.1,2.45,23)
dir_5=(1,0,0)
time_fin_5=-8

[FX_MACH]
pstream=mach
mach_min=0.9
mach_max=1.1
off_1=(0,0,45)
dir=(0,0,-1)

[STAGE_1]
Height=24.48
Diameter=6.52
EmptyMass=41594
FuelMass=407084
Thrust=8241630
BurnTime=143 ;150
off=(0,0,0)
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nsat1stg1
ENG_TEX=Exhaust2
ENG_1=(0,1,-10.3)
ENG_2=(1,0,-10.3)
ENG_3=(0,-1,-10.3)
ENG_4=(-1,0,-10.3)
ENG_5=(1.8,1.8,-10.3)
ENG_6=(-1.8,1.8,-10.3)
ENG_7=(1.8,-1.8,-10.3)
ENG_8=(-1.8,-1.8,-10.3)
ENG_DIAMETER=0.82
ENG_PSTREAM1=Satcontrail
speed=(0,0,-10)
rot_speed=(0.02,0.01,0)
PITCHTHRUST=1500000.0
YAWTHRUST=1500000.0
ROLLTHRUST=70000.0


[SEPARATION_12]
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nsat1intstg
Off=(0,0,16.25)
speed=(0,0,-10)
Height=5.70
Diameter=6.52
EmptyMass=400

[STAGE_2]
Height=17.8
Diameter=6.61
EmptyMass=12800
FuelMass=105900
Thrust=1031600
BurnTime=475 ;480
Ignite_Delay=3
off=(0,0,27.95)
MeshName=ProjectApollo\nSat1stg2
ENG_TEX=ProjectApollo\Exhaust_j2
ENG_1=(0,0,-11)
ENG_DIAMETER=2.01
speed=(0,0,0)
rot_speed=(0,0,0)
PITCHTHRUST=15000
YAWTHRUST=15000
ROLLTHRUST=700
Ullage_thrust=100974.631
Ullage_Anticipation=1.5
Ullage_overlap=1.2
Ullage_N=3
Ullage_angle=65
Ullage_diameter=0.3175
Ullage_length=10
Ullage_dir=(0.5,0,-1)
Ullage_pos=(3.8,0,-5.65)

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName=AMSO\Apollo_vessel1
Off=(0.000,0.000,45.000)
Height=10.000
Diameter=6.610
Module=AMSO\Apollo
Name=AS-210
Render=1
Live=1
Rotation=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Mass=14768.000
Speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Rot_speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000)

[PAYLOAD_2]
Meshname=ASTP-DockingModule
Off=(0.13,0.15,37.2)
Rotation=(0,90,0)
Mass=2012
Height=3.15
Diameter=1.4
Module=ASTP-DockingModule
Name=ASTP
Render=1

[LES]
Meshname=ProjectApollo\BoostCover
Off=(0.000,0.000,53.500)
Height=11.94
Diameter=3.96
Emptymass=2110.46
Speed=(0.000,-5.000,30.000)
Rot_speed=(0.000,0.000,0.000)
Module=Stage


[FAIRING]
Meshname=apollocollab\nsat1stg2
Off=(0.000,2.500,38.100)
N=4
Angle=180.000
Diameter=10.000
Height=31.350
EmptyMass=1789.000
Speed=(1.000,0.000,0.000)
Rot_Speed=(0.000,0.300,0.000)
Module=Stage

[ADAPTER]
Meshname=ProjectApollo\apollo8_lta
Off=(0.000,0.000,36.000)
Height=2.000
Diameter=2.000
EmptyMass=100.000
Guidance file for Saturn 1B (ASTP):
Code: 
-10=PlaySound(Sound\Vessel\ASTP_Launch.wav)
-3=engine(0,100,3)
0=engine(100,100,1)
10=orbit(154,173,51.75,-1)
30=pitch(87,80,20)
40=pitch(80,75,10)
50=pitch(75,65,60)
140=engineout(1)
140=engineout(2)
140=engineout(3)
140=engineout(4)
163=les()
 
Also the stage compartments disappear for me, when I separate them. They appear during launch, but they don't' appear after I separate them.
 
DDASSSSS said:
Hmm, I downloaded the Multistage 2015 Saturn for Orbiter 2010 P1 and I found this.
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Like I said, both the Saturn 1Bs of Multistage2015 Saturns and Apollo Collaborative are virtually the same. Their only difference is that the CSM used in the former is AAPO (which AFAIR doesn't work yet on O2016), while the latter uses AMSO
 
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