General Question What the hell is that Galileo spacecraft in the scenario editor for?

[SpaceEagle]

I've been modifiying my scenario with sputnik's Velcro Saturns,then in the scenario,i found a "thing" named Gailieo,i thought that was the Galileo mission to Jupiter,and i spawned it to be a payload of one of the Saturns in Velcro Saturns,then when i changed view to it,it was nothing. What the hell is this thing for Orbiter.

 

[orb]

Galileo is a placeholder for Galileo spacecraft, and it's indeed Galileo mission to Jupiter. It has an empty configuration file, but if you have a mesh of the Galileo, you can add it to the configuration to make it displayed.

The vessel is used in "The Solar System/Jupiter flybys" stock scenarios, to show Ganymede and Io flybys.

 

[SpaceEagle]

Galileo is a placeholder for Galileo spacecraft, and it's indeed Galileo mission to Jupiter. It has an empty configuration file, but if you have a mesh of the Galileo, you can add it to the configuration to make it displayed.

The vessel is used in "The Solar System/Jupiter flybys" stock scenarios, to show Ganymede and Io flybys.

So i can use Missileman01's old 031217 Galileo mesh (without the configs)?

This is my first time to code an .cfg,can i use the Carina config (copy paste),and just replace some things like height,weight and things?

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What is the classname thing in the config?

And i will be realese it on orbithangar (tuesday!)

 

[orb]

If you want a full spacecraft, use the GEP: Galileo add-on. I think you can convert it from Spacecraft to Spacecraft3.

If you want a spacecraft which looks like the Galileo, without the probe as payload nor some other parameters you could define only in its Spacecraft implementation, you can just add the Missileman01's Galileo mesh entry to the configuration file.

This is my first time to code an .cfg,can i use the Carina config (copy paste),and just replace some things like height,weight and things?

You can of course replace parameters from the Carina config.

What is the classname thing in the config?

Please use "Doc/OrbiterConfig.pdf" for documentation of the vessel configuration parameters.

And i will be realese it on orbithangar (tuesday!)

What will you release? Just the configuration file? You can instead post it in the "[OHM] GEP - Galileo" thread inside [code][/code] tags.

 

[garyw]

I think you can convert it from Spacecraft to Spacecraft3.

You can. It's just a matter of editing the scenario file and changing spacecraft to spacecraft3

 

[SpaceEagle]

If you want a full spacecraft, use the GEP: Galileo add-on. I think you can convert it from Spacecraft to Spacecraft3.

If you want a spacecraft which looks like the Galileo, without the probe as payload nor some other parameters you could define only in its Spacecraft implementation, you can just add the Missileman01's Galileo mesh entry to the configuration file.



You can of course replace parameters from the Carina config.



Please use "Doc/OrbiterConfig.pdf" for documentation of the vessel configuration parameters.



What will you release? Just the configuration file? You can instead post it in the "[OHM] GEP - Galileo" thread inside [code][/code] tags.

You can. It's just a matter of editing the scenario file and changing spacecraft to spacecraft3

So where's the .ini file or something

I also think I can make it with Dave's Shuttle Fleet for the launch scenario.

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And also orb,please put this thread to addon devellopment,it seems to be off-topic

 

[orb]

So where's the .ini file or something

In "Config/Spacecraft" subdirectory, but you are looking for scenarios in "Scenarios" subdirectory. Anyway, instead of changing every scenario using it, you could also change definition in Spacecraft.cfg to point to "Spacecraft3" module instead of "Spacecraft".

And also orb,please put this thread to addon devellopment,it seems to be off-topic

The thread's title and the question in the opening post is general (it isn't a question about add-on but about a part of Orbiter), so it rather belongs to General Questions & Help.

 

[SpaceEagle]

; === Configuration file for vessel class NASA Galileo ===
ClassName = galileo
MeshName = galileo
ImageBmp = Images\Vessels\Default\Carina.bmp
Size = 5.0

Mass = 5000; empty mass [kg]
MaxFuel = 100000000000  ; max fuel mass [kg]
Isp = 5        ; fuel specific impulse [m/s]

MaxMainThrust = 100
MaxRetroThrust = 0
MaxHoverThrust = 0
MaxAttitudeThrust = 5e2
COG_OverGround = 2.0
CameraOffset = -.715 .865 -2.5
CW = 10 10 5
LiftFactor = 0.0
CrossSections = 2.45 6.25 2.45

; === Attachment specs ===
BEGIN_ATTACHMENT
P 0 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  XS
P 0 0.9 0.1  0  1 0  0 0 1  GS
END_ATTACHMENT

Any expert add-on dev pls check this config.

 

[Loru]

I don't know where did you get your data but Galileo surelly didn't had 100 million tons of useless (ISP=5) fuel.

Quick,10 minute search at Wiki & astronautix gave me:

Mass = 2,564
Fuel mass = 925
ISP = 3296,16

MaxMainThrust = 400
MaxAttitudeThrust = 10 (you'd have to adjust that for scpacecraft3/cfg vessel as it assumes RCS placed 1 meter fro center of gravity)

 

[SpaceEagle]

That's a troll Loru,but yes I din't have time to check Wikipedia,last night,i was searching in that OrbiterConfig.pdf but I'm changing.

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; === Configuration file for vessel class NASA Galileo ===
ClassName = galileo
MeshName = galileo
ImageBmp = Images\Vessels\Default\Carina.bmp
Size = 5.0

Mass = 2,564; empty mass [kg]
MaxFuel = 925  ; max fuel mass [kg]
Isp = 3296,16       ; fuel specific impulse [m/s]

MaxMainThrust = 400
MaxRetroThrust = 0
MaxHoverThrust = 0
MaxAttitudeThrust = 10
COG_OverGround = 2.0
CameraOffset = -.715 .865 -2.5
CW = 10 10 5
LiftFactor = 0.0
CrossSections = 2.45 6.25 2.45

; === Attachment specs ===
BEGIN_ATTACHMENT
P 0 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  XS
P 0 0.9 0.1  0  1 0  0 0 1  GS
END_ATTACHMENT

Like playing Sudoku,check again.

 

[Quick_Nick]

Nice mix of decimal delimiters there...

 

[asbjos]

; === Configuration file for vessel class NASA Galileo ===
ClassName = galileo
MeshName = galileo
[COLOR="Red"]ImageBmp = Images\Vessels\Default\Carina.bmp[/COLOR]
Size = 5.0

[COLOR="red"]Mass = 2,564; empty mass [kg][/COLOR]
MaxFuel = 925  ; max fuel mass [kg]
[COLOR="red"]Isp = 3296,16       ; fuel specific impulse [m/s][/COLOR]

MaxMainThrust = 400
MaxRetroThrust = 0
MaxHoverThrust = 0
MaxAttitudeThrust = 10
COG_OverGround = 2.0
CameraOffset = -.715 .865 -2.5
CW = 10 10 5
LiftFactor = 0.0
CrossSections = 2.45 6.25 2.45

; === Attachment specs ===
BEGIN_ATTACHMENT
P 0 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  XS
P 0 0.9 0.1  0  1 0  0 0 1  GS
END_ATTACHMENT

First, you should delete the first red line with ImageBMP, because it will load a picture of Carina in the Scenario Editor. If you delete the line, no picture will occur, which is better.

Second, as 'Quick_Nick' writes, use dots as decimal point, not commas (all the other red lines).

Last, have you written the attachment points yourself, or are they copied from Carina? If they are from Carina, you can either delete the lines if you don't need the attachments, but if you want them (you wrote something about a launch with the Space Shuttle), you can edit them so that they don't are inside the Galileo probe (as they probably are now).

 

[SpaceEagle]

; === Configuration file for vessel class NASA Galileo ===
ClassName = galileo
MeshName = galileo

Size = 5.0

Mass = 2.564; empty mass [kg]
MaxFuel = 925  ; max fuel mass [kg]
Isp = 3296.16       ; fuel specific impulse [m/s]

MaxMainThrust = 400
MaxRetroThrust = 0
MaxHoverThrust = 0
MaxAttitudeThrust = 10
COG_OverGround = 2.0
CameraOffset = -.715 .865 -2.5
CW = 10 10 5
LiftFactor = 0.0
CrossSections = 2.45 6.25 2.45

; === Attachment specs ===
BEGIN_ATTACHMENT
P 0 0 0  0 -1 0  0 0 1  XS
P 0 0.9 0.1  0  1 0  0 0 1  GS
END_ATTACHMENT

Triple check pls. I also wanted that (atmospheric) probe,but don't know how to add things in that ATTACHMENT thing.

 

[SpaceEagle]

Finally! Here's my first add-on!

Look at that picture:

I'm gonna create a thread at the Add-on Development

I will be adding more things like atmospheric probe,IUS jettison from (Default or Shuttle Fleet)
Atlantis,and STS-34 Launch

EDIT: http://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=413358#post413358 thread