News The USA needs a perestroika, Gorbi says

[SiberianTiger]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=88442&sectionid=3510203

Ex-Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says that Washington must stop giving orders and should reconstruct its financial and political system.

Gorbachev added that the US now needed perestroika of its own, 20 years after the process in the Soviet bloc.

 

[Urwumpe]

LOL, maybe he is not too wrong. The USA have never forgiven the USSR to just become peaceful and break apart, when it started to get interesting.

 

[atuhalpa]

y\Yeah Urwumpe, when the USSR broke up, all the death dealing arms manufacturers had to manifest another "threat" so they could sell their weapons so they manufactured the "islamic terrorist" threat by stirring up wacko factions in Islam. Problem is antiterrorist weapons aren't very high tech so the death dealing arms manufacturers don't soak the taxpayers for as much as they did when we supposedly needed extremely high tech weapons to counter the USSR. Just my two cents worth.

 

[simonpro]

Giant conspiracy. Yes.

 

[Urwumpe]

Giant conspiracy. Yes.

Of course. What else are economics, if not a giant conspiracy. by the truest sense of the dictionary.

 

[Omhra]

simonpro;
do you really believe these groups of people, these families who seem to run governments, generation after generation, do not plan things in advance?
Now.. Is that "conspiracy" or is that the perception of such agendas being labeled by common folk?

 

[simonpro]

No, I believe that all decisions made about the running of a country are made on impulse, possibly by flipping a coin.

Also, what families are these, then?

 

[Filthy]

No, I believe that all decisions made about the running of a country are made on impulse, possibly by flipping a coin.

Indeed. Heads we win, Tails you lose.

 

[RAF92_Moser]

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=88442&sectionid=3510203

Jeffersonian reform?

All for lesser central powers and more state rights!

 

[SiberianTiger]

Jeffersonian reform?

All for lesser central powers and more state rights!

Well, I'm not Gorbachev and I can't really judge what kind of reform the USA needs. But the entire affair of Gorbachev suggesting a reform in the way he thinks best can only make a Russian sneer, since "perestroika" effectively means a "disaster" in the public's mind - at least if done in Gorbachev's way...

 

[Omhra]

No, I believe that all decisions made about the running of a country are made on impulse, possibly by flipping a coin.

Also, what families are these, then?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rothschild_banking_family_of_England
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockefeller_family
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_family

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A29415-2005Jan22.html

etc..

 

[joiz]

wait gorbachev is the guy that predicts the US will collapse USSR style in like a year, right? that may be a little extreme. i see it going the other way, the US getting stronger and stronger as we deal with every single threat to our supreme power. but of course we need a perstroika, if we could stop corporate greed we would have had sixty different brands of shuttle a decade ago. and many other things. like healthcare.

 

[joiz]

Indeed. Heads we win, Tails you lose.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/222638

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Jeffersonian reform?

All for lesser central powers and more state rights!

if we did that, some states would be in recession, some would be booming, and some would be socialist. i think it's a good idea. then everyone will move to where its better and the states that suck will be like "hummmm, i think we did something wrong."

 

[BHawthorne]

The USA needs a perestroika, Gorbi says

No, the US needs a President that doesn't try to be a populous President and hemorrhage money at every single feel good project he hears about without thought. So far the solution is to ram it through Congress, throw money at it and ask questions later. Meanwhile he's paid off countless people with attachments to all those bills. Special interest is playing the new amateur government for a fool and succeeding.

 

[Urwumpe]

I don't want to change jobs with Obama...

He can do all right, and still fail. Just imagine, Obama would do a similar law as Germany, which now allows the government to assume ownerships of companies, if the financial situation of the company is too bad. Even in Germany, where we have less objections to such activities, there was a outcry about creating a state industry. (Despite the fact, that such a take-over would cause less damage to the economy, as letting the company collapse)

In the USA, this would be impossible without starting a civil war. I would say about 10% of the biggest US companies will not survive until 2015 on their own. The damage caused by the managers and the lack of control by the shareholders is just too great.

 

[BHawthorne]

I don't want to change jobs with Obama...

He can do all right, and still fail. Just imagine, Obama would do a similar law as Germany, which now allows the government to assume ownerships of companies, if the financial situation of the company is too bad. Even in Germany, where we have less objections to such activities, there was a outcry about creating a state industry. (Despite the fact, that such a take-over would cause less damage to the economy, as letting the company collapse)

In the USA, this would be impossible without starting a civil war. I would say about 10% of the biggest US companies will not survive until 2015 on their own. The damage caused by the managers and the lack of control by the shareholders is just too great.

The way I see it, the US should concentrate on proactionary spending, not reactionary spending. All we're doing is propping up the status-quo of mismanaged administrations within corporations so they can continue to do what they do. This is not reform spending it's the most expensive stop-gap spending ever to ensure a continuation of the same-old same-old.

These big companies need to either adapt and fix themselves or die. The government is rewarding them for thier bad deeds otherwise. I just see this as big business got them into office and now they're paying them off. I'm not so certain many of these corporations didn't orchestrate all this nonsense on purpose.