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[BrianJ]

Hi,

I was testing the "Starship approaching mars" scenario,

Its been a while since I looked at Starship - and I don't remember what this scenario is for!
Its lined up for Periapsis close to Olympus base, but that's way off what you need for a reentry to Olympus.
I'm not surprised that IMFD "BaseApproach" won't give a solution for correct reentry interface and hence the Autopilot doesn't work.
If anyone cares to make a better "Olympus Approach" scenario that would be great, otherwise it'll go on the "to do" list.
Thanks for the heads up.

Is this for 2016 ?

Hi, yes, the Starship add-on is built for Orbiter2016.

 

[barrygolden]

Hey Brian with Artemis 3 looking like an LEO mission any chance to get a Moonship launch in the works

 

[Buck Rogers]

Hi!

I was testing the "Starship approaching mars" scenario, and for some reason the autopilot doesn't work properly, it bounces the ship in the atmosphere (even with Olympus target).
Configuring IMFD Base Approach in Alt. 90km, ReA. 9.8º and Ant. 40º (like the readme says) doesn't work either, the MFD doesn't give me any burn solution which leads me to not do that burn and at the time of reentry the autopilot takes me off course and I bounce into the atmosphere.

Everything else is excellent and works very well! I hope it's my mistake and I'm omitting something. Greetings!

I haven't tried a complete intercept but the "Starship Mars Reentry Test.scn" worked "outofthebox" (remember posting a screenshot).
This was with the "Spacex_starship_250618.zip" build in Orbiter2024.

Edit: I ran the .scn in Orbiter2024 and it missed the pad (don't no why it worked before?), but I just tested it in Orbiter2016 and it works great.

 

[Niker]

Hi,

Its been a while since I looked at Starship - and I don't remember what this scenario is for!
Its lined up for Periapsis close to Olympus base, but that's way off what you need for a reentry to Olympus.
I'm not surprised that IMFD "BaseApproach" won't give a solution for correct reentry interface and hence the Autopilot doesn't work.
If anyone cares to make a better "Olympus Approach" scenario that would be great, otherwise it'll go on the "to do" list.
Thanks for the heads up.


Hi, yes, the Starship add-on is built for Orbiter2016.

I haven't tried a complete intercept but the "Starship Mars Reentry Test.scn" worked "outofthebox" (remember posting a screenshot).
This was with the "Spacex_starship_250618.zip" build in Orbiter2024.

Edit: I ran the .scn in Orbiter2024 and it missed the pad (don't no why it worked before?), but I just tested it in Orbiter2016 and it works great.

Hi! The "Starship Mars Reentry Test.scn" works pretty fine, the entry interface occurs at range ~2000km and alt 95km. But the "Starship approaching mars.scn" occurs at range ~1200km and alt 95km which leads me to miss Olympus and bounce off the atmosphere. Everything else is excellent even a complete Mars intercept, it's a really good and fun addon to use!

Greetings.

 

[Buck Rogers]

Hi! The "Starship Mars Reentry Test.scn" works pretty fine, the entry interface occurs at range ~2000km and alt 95km. But the "Starship approaching mars.scn" occurs at range ~1200km and alt 95km which leads me to miss Olympus and bounce off the atmosphere. Everything else is excellent even a complete Mars intercept, it's a really good and fun addon to use!

It might just need a small MCC. You could try it with InterplanetryMFD Base Approach and try to set up the same entry interface as in the test.scn.

 

[BrianJ]

Hey Brian with Artemis 3 looking like an LEO mission any chance to get a Moonship launch in the works

Its on my list. Just need the time and energy

It might just need a small MCC. You could try it with InterplanetryMFD Base Approach and try to set up the same entry interface as in the test.scn.

I couldn't get an IMFD "Base Approach" solution in the "Mars Approach" scenario. Just too close to Mars. Not sure why that scenario is in there, I may just have been pleased to get the Starship to Mars finally!

 

[Buck Rogers]

I couldn't get an IMFD "Base Approach" solution in the "Mars Approach" scenario. Just too close to Mars. Not sure why that scenario is in there, I may just have been pleased to get the Starship to Mars finally!

OK, wasn't sure if 3 days out would be enough, rollback to launch...

 

[Gieno]

Hi, will the Starship and Super Heavy booster spacecraft get an update to the Starship V3?

 

[gattispilot]

I am trying to figure out which is the latest version? And to put the Francis Drake Moonship on it.

I have this as a test scn:
BEGIN_DESC
Launch 15T sat to Polar 500km orbit
END_DESC


BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 59469.6131274460
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship Starship
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET Starship
MODE Extern
POS 3.330586 -146.808085 93.424523
TRACKMODE Ground Earth
GROUNDLOCATION -97.15369 25.99399 23.83
FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
TYPE Orbit
PROJ Ship
FRAME Equator
ALT
REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
TYPE Surface
SPDMODE 1
END_MFD

BEGIN_SHIPS
Moonship1:Moonship\Moonship
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -97.1541480 25.9955940
HEADING 0.00
ALT 0.952
AROT 57.776 -18.826 8.898
ATTACHED 0:0,Starship
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 500
END
Starship:spacex_starship\moonship1
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -97.1541480 25.9955940
HEADING 0.00
ALT 61.268
AROT 151.184 -8.303 -85.458
ATTACHED 0:0,BC_TOWER
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000 2:1.000000
NAVFREQ 0 0
RSL 3
ACL 39.2400
UEC 0 0
TGT 0 0 0 NULL
DLR 0
RNT 0 0 0
DSP 0
PAF 0 0.0000
HAT 0 0.0000
CAN 0.0000 0.0000
WNG 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000
LEG 0 0.0000
SOST 0 0 0 0 1 0 0
SOPR 1.6057029 500000.0 500000.0 230538.0 212468.6 BC_TOWER 1.5708
LOTM 0 0 0 0 0.0000
NOZL 0.0000 0 0 1
END
BC_TOWER:spacex_starship\bc_tower
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -97.1540880 25.9953540
HEADING 90.00
ALT 0.5
AROT 180.000 -82.846 -115.995
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
ARMSTS 0 2 0 0
ARMPRC 0.500 1.000 0.000 0.000 0.000 1.000
PRMS 10.000 1.000 0
CLAW 0 0.000 0.000 1.000
PSTN 0.013 0.067
STTS 0 1 0 0 0.0
TRGT AUTO
END
BC_PAD:spacex_starship\bc_pad
STATUS Landed Earth
POS -97.1567080 25.9965440
HEADING 90.00
ALT 3.000
AROT 180.000 -82.843 -115.997
AFCMODE 7
NAVFREQ 0 0
STTS 0 0 0 0.0
END
END_SHIPS

and a spacexstarship.cfg

ClassName = Moonship
Module = Moonship\Moonship


;;;;;; set payload attach points, 20 maximum, index 0 -> 19
PayloadAttach0 = 0 0 41.011 0 0 1 0 1 0 ;;; default

but I get a CTD.

============================ ERROR: ===========================
Could not load vessel module: Moonship\Moonship
[Vessel::LoadModule | .\Vessel.cpp | 5747]
===============================================================

But from the moonship scn we have this:
BEGIN_SHIPS
Moonship:Moonship\Moonship and the scn works?

 

[Buck Rogers]

Starship is attached 0:0 to the tower, Moonship is also attached to the same attachment point. Could that be the cause?

 

[gattispilot]

Not sure. I just changed the name in the scn.

 

[gattispilot]

I kinda figured it out. But not sure how to load @francisdrake Moonship on the booster?

I loaded the booster as a vessel but could not attach