Zane
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That's kinda what the Buran-T and the Space Tugs do: Deliver non-fuel cargo to orbit.
Right, but they can't really dock stuff, which is the big thing going for the Albatross.
That's kinda what the Buran-T and the Space Tugs do: Deliver non-fuel cargo to orbit.
Right, but they can't really dock stuff, which is the big thing going for the Albatross.
The Tranzit Space Tug is very capable of docking things. In fact, it's main purpose is towing things around and docking them on stations.
However, it can't return cargo to Earth, which the Albatross has the potential to do.
BEGIN_DESC
Orbiter saved state at T = 61286
END_DESC
BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 55167.6322364351
END_ENVIRONMENT
BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship Albatros
END_FOCUS
BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET Albatros
MODE Cockpit
FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA
BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Orbit
REF Earth
END_HUD
BEGIN_MFD Left
TYPE User
MODE Interplanetary
Scenario Old2
MapMFD V5
Reference Sun
Target saturn
Center Albatros
Data 0 1 3.745265340179125e-007 0 1 1 0 2 1 0 0 0
MassLimit 1e+020
CMode 0
Config 1 1 1 1 0 0
ExtMode 0
Periapis Earth
END
CorMFD V4
Reference Sun
Target Saturn
Source Earth
ActiveProg 1 1
DataA 0 3 0 0 0 2
DataB 1 1 55159.47367513888 0 0 2.737501948723823 0 57341.01601762745 0
DVProg 0 0 0 1
AdvConf 0 0 1 0 0
Guidance 0
END
EjectMFD V5
Reference Auto
Data 1 1 3 0 0 55159.47367513888 10397.6
Guidance 0
END
BaseAprMFD V2
Reference Auto
Target none
Source none
DataA 0 0 120000 0.10821 0.366519 1 1 55159.46306825231 55159.46306825231 0
DataB 0 3 0 1 0 1
END
SlingMFD V4
Reference Auto
Source none
Data 0 1 1 3 0 1 55159.46306825231 0
END
LaunchMFD V4
Target None
Data 0 1 1 3 0 1 0
END
CF1_DataA 1 0
CF1_DataB 55159.4566630324 10 120000 2 20 150000
CF1_SecTgt
mfdShare -1
mfdProgram 4
END_MFD
BEGIN_MFD Right
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PROJ Ship
FRAME Equator
ALT
REF Sun
TARGET Saturn
END_MFD
BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
STATUS Orbiting Earth
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RVEL -274.487 7404.990 -2047.826
AROT 163.76 -46.70 -154.79
VROT 0.03 0.06 -0.13
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
IDS 0:588 100 1:586 100 2:584 100 3:582 100 4:580 100
NAVFREQ 0 0
XPDR 466
END
Mir
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 4272658.15 347702.89 5112529.16
RVEL -5938.769 253.532 4947.098
AROT 123.59 -48.21 153.55
VROT 0.07 0.04 0.15
IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
STATUS Orbiting Moon
RPOS 2178702.47 -347577.60 -18403.96
RVEL 218.785 1475.774 10.469
AROT -0.94 -0.62 148.61
VROT 0.00 0.00 10.00
IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
XPDR 494
END
DG-1:DeltaGlider
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS -6022964.16 -1904620.61 2827235.68
RVEL -1589.388 -4147.780 -6144.494
AROT 10.20 17.61 -68.76
VROT -2.25 -0.33 -3.53
RCSMODE 2
PRPLEVEL 0:0.020 1:0.606
NAVFREQ 402 94 0 0
XPDR 0
RCOVER 1 1.0000
NOSECONE 1 1.0000
AIRLOCK 1 1.0000
RADIATOR 1 1.0000
PSNGR 2 3
SKIN BLUE
END
Albatros:Albatros
STATUS Orbiting Sun
RPOS 42323613196.31 -7864759.51 141151138816.67
RVEL -38482.441 -1.524 12901.998
AROT -25.27 32.76 -1.66
PRPLEVEL 0:0.580
NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
XPDR 0
DEPLOY 0 0.0000 0.0000
TUGSTATE 1
GEARSTATE 0 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 0.0 0.0
AIRBRAKE 0.0000 0.0000
CONTROLSTATE 2
ELEVATORTRIM 0.000
CHUTESTATE 0
CH_SHUTTER 0 0.0000
WINGTYPE 0
ABORTFLIGHT 0
ROCKETMSG -1 0 5.0360
LANDSEQUENCES 1 1 1
AUTOMATICS -0.0010 0.0000 0.0000 1
PUMP_STATE 0
DUMP_STATE 0 0
FLOW_SPEED 0.000 0.000
TANK_IDX 0
END
END_SHIPS
Looks like Energia-2 project. Under development now. Actually Albatros is only step towards Energia-2 (to confirm some ideas).I'd also like to propose something else... maybe a cargo variant, like Shuttle/Buran style (but unmanned, of course). Rather than 25mT of fuel, it could carry 25mT of cargo (and return some, too). Just an idea.
Wow, Energia-2 looks like some bastard son of two contrary solutions. Still, would be fun to fly this Minotaur.
I need scenario at moment of 3-5 seconds before docking event and list of other vessels (and where I can download from). And try to make the situation more clean - disable all plugins if it is possible.I got CTD happens every time I'm docking...
BEGIN_DESC
END_DESC
BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System Sol
Date MJD 51982.0382788334
END_ENVIRONMENT
BEGIN_FOCUS
Ship Tanker
END_FOCUS
BEGIN_CAMERA
TARGET Tanker
MODE Cockpit
FOV 50.00
END_CAMERA
BEGIN_HUD
TYPE Docking
REF BN200 5
END_HUD
BEGIN_MFD Left
TYPE Docking
VIS
END_MFD
BEGIN_MFD Right
TYPE Orbit
PROJ Frame
FRAME Ecliptic
ALT
REF Earth
END_MFD
BEGIN_SHIPS
BN200:BN200
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 6359183.88 -93.40 2943252.47
RVEL -3171.729 -0.683 6843.156
AROT -0.00 88.26 180.00
DOCKINFO 0:0,BTank101
NAVFREQ 0 0
END
BTank101:BTank101
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 6359183.75 -93.40 2943248.03
RVEL -3171.729 -0.683 6843.156
AROT -90.00 -0.00 -88.26
PRPLEVEL 0:1.000
DOCKINFO 0:0,BN200
NAVFREQ 0 0
END
Tanker:Tanker
STATUS Orbiting Earth
RPOS 6359209.96 -93.44 2943251.98
RVEL -3171.735 -0.687 6843.154
AROT -4.10 89.00 87.14
RCSMODE 2
PRPLEVEL 0:0.994 1:1.000
NAVFREQ 0 0 0 0
XPDR 0
DEPLOY 1 1.0000
TUGSTATE 2
DEPCOUNTER -0.007
PUMP_STATE 0
DUMP_STATE 0 0
FLOW_SPEED 0.000 0.000
TANK_IDX 0
END
END_SHIPS
Looks like Energia-2 project. Under development now. Actually Albatros is only step towards Energia-2 (to confirm some ideas).
http://www.kulch.spb.ru/Eng/GK_175_project.html
http://www.buran.ru/htm/41-3.htm
(in russian, sorry. but you can see pictures)