General Question quickstart line in scn files

[kneejo]

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
System SolM
Date MJD 55121.7048636227
Help Quickstart,Quickstart
END_ENVIRONMENT

this "Help, quickstart" line appears in some of my scenarios.. it came from an addon.. is it of any use or can I delete it?

 

[agentgonzo]

I've never seen that field. It should be fine to delete.

 

[kneejo]

okay, thanks.. my "questioning mind" has been satisfied (for now)

 

[martins]

The line refers to the html help page you get with Alt-F1 when running that scenario.

Sadly, customised scenario help pages never became popular with addon developers. It would be a nice way to provide in-game help for specific addon features.

 

[kneejo]

thanks, I really respect people who can answer questions when asked one. In real life, these people are rare.. mostly people will be afraid to loose their superiority in knowledge, which is generally the only thing that makes them superior, so they fear loosing it. (just some mumbo-jumbo I felt like saying, don't take it personally if it don't apply to you )

 

[garyw]

Hmm, Interesting. Could be a good way of adding in checklists. Are these regular HTM pages or compiled (CHM)?

 

[martins]

CHM. The format of the line in the scenario file is

HELP <filename>,<pagename>

where <filename> is the name of the chm file (minus .chm extension). The path is relative to Html/Scenarios.

<pagename> is the name of the start page within the chm file to display (minus the .html extension).

 

[garyw]

Many thanks! I'll have a play with that.

 

[Urwumpe]

Sadly, customised scenario help pages never became popular with addon developers. It would be a nice way to provide in-game help for specific addon features.

Could be because it is not documented in the manual. It is one of the many undocumented features of Orbiter.

Only the help feature for vessels is documented, and you may blame me as well for not making use of it, documentation is not the most fun part of making an add-on...

 

[garyw]

I'll do your Docs Urwumpe. I'm a poor addon dev but have no issues writing docs!

 

[Urwumpe]

I'll do your Docs Urwumpe. I'm a poor addon dev but have no issues writing docs!

Thank you I'll look in doing the same for SSU, should be no problem setting the repository up for making useful chm files.

 

[kneejo]

yeah about checklists and stuff.. is there a way to open files from within Orbiter? Like pdf's and doc's, not just the notesmfd (which doesn't work in my install anyway) but some kind of internal filebrowser for all kinds of documents I might want to consult while playing.

 

[garyw]

I tend to generate a PDF and print it out in booklet format, I like the idea of having something in front of me that I can scribble on otherwise the CHM file method as outlined above would work

 

[Urwumpe]

I tend to generate a PDF and print it out in booklet format, I like the idea of having something in front of me that I can scribble on otherwise the CHM file method as outlined above would work

I work on printing the whole Shuttle stuff (related to STS-120, you have to preserve some trees), and have it sorted in nice white folders, with color covers and tabs... but having a quick reference via help-file for a mission, would not be the worst.

 

[garyw]

Hence booklet format. A 20-30 page checklist can be compressed to just 8 or 10 pages that way.

Fineprint. Very nice tool, very clever like that.

 

[Urwumpe]

Hence booklet format. A 20-30 page checklist can be compressed to just 8 or 10 pages that way.

Fineprint. Very nice tool, very clever like that.

Is not good for the Shuttle. I have printed the Orbit Operations Checklist that way, it is in some chapters only barely readable because the pages are stuffed with information. :lol:

 

[Oceanic]

i once created a simple chm file that had only a link to google.com it helped searching the old m6 forums while flying =)

this old post has some nice information about chm files in orbiter.

can anyone recommend a good/easy tool that can convert/create chm files? i want to convert some tutorials to help files...

 

[Urwumpe]

can anyone recommend a good/easy tool that can convert/create chm files? i want to convert some tutorials to help files...

Not yet, I get too many download phisher hits in google for CHM tools, need more time for proper research about compressed HTML.

 

[fort]

I created a device of this type, from a page written in Html and JavaScript, two years ago, but the vagaries of daily life away from me as far as fatigue, after about 18 months of development ( ... I had also never write a single line of code before; so I learned by trial and error from quantities of scripts found on the web that I had to learn to read, then to adapt, then to compare, then rewrite, for some, according to my needs. Activities of test to obtain, particularly for video - flv - a minimum consumption of cpu). In December 2008, my eyes suddenly fell in and I put aside for a while, this little program.

I do not know well, so far, in what order the topics that follow are to be considered but in the end, though not having tested the beta Orbiter (for which the tree is a little different and may change a little code data from the parser - or instead the place of folders ...) it worked pretty well if I had to order my codes and finish the interface (sometimes a bit complex) to align ( aesthetically ) with Orbiter window ( panels ).

Only the tape recorder was uneasily implementable outside a very private use ( an .ocx)

Finally, with Vista, then windows7, and the latest versions of Internet Explorer, I have no idea what he may or may not work.

I want one days finish all this, but it is high time that I first consult an eye specialist or a neurologist may be ...?

It is a big little machine with many implementations and effects, an interactive manual, trying to simulate a virtual screen, but not too futuristic, and return to these codes to finish ...I wish that this is not just for next Tuesday but... and If I have made a slight detour with surftiles (artlav, nightlights ... still in progress) because, on chm, my head was on the verge of explosion.

http://www.orbitersim.com/Forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=15869

http://www.orbitersim.com/Forum/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=16710

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Help system ( help files/.chm)

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Posted: Sunday, October 14, 2007 5:00:28 PM

Help system ( help files/.chm)

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http://orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?t=4097&highlight=chm


Oceanic,

In the time to create chm files, I also tested many free programs (and shareware) and the simplest seemed to be that of microsoft ... but it was two years ago ....

 

[flying coffin]

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can anyone recommend a good/easy tool that can convert/create chm files? i want to convert some tutorials to help files...

Microsoft has html help workshop,
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...34-C8A6-452F-9AA0-D597D16580CC&displaylang=en
which I used to create the in-scenario help
for the LRO addon.