Request Orion SLS

[barrygolden]

Looking for some body to do an Orion/ICPS on top of a Shuttle ET and SRBs for LEO operation to the ISS

 

[Donamy]

Did this years ago.

 

[barrygolden]

I had forgotten about that. Sort of looking for a shorter version of the SLS maybe with just 2 SSME and the ICPS would do the OMS burns to put Orion in orbit

 

[MarkWatney2015]

Is this the SDHLLV concept from 2010?

 

[barrygolden]

I think it was back from 2006

 

[barrygolden]

any news on doing this addon

 

[gattispilot]

Is this it?

Shuttle-Derived Heavy Lift Launch Vehicle - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

If so. All we would need is the center carrier section.

 

[gattispilot]

I am Building the Fairing. I think we can use MS2015. The ET and white engine part made into one vessel. I think the Shuttle C was for cargo. But I guess anything could be put in the cargo bay. It cargo parts for SSF then a support structure may be needed


But if we put the orion and IPCS would need the escape rocket?

 

[barrygolden]

My thoughts are mounting the Orion/ICPS on top as with the SLS
will need to put a engine compartment on the bottom as with the SLS so its just a shorter SLS with the ICPS doing an OMS 1 burn if needed.
It would be cool to have a payload bay under the ICPS as with the Saturn 1B

 

[gattispilot]

On top of the ET? So just the ET, 2 SRB and Orion/ICPS?

 

[barrygolden]

Yes on top of the ET with 2 SRB's and your newest Orion//ICPS
Placed on your SLS pad with lights

 

[gattispilot]

So basically replace the shuttle with the Orion/ICPS?

Should be easy. Just a cfg file maybe?

 

[Urwumpe]

Well, the Propulsion System is also needed.

 

[gattispilot]

Not sure what he really wants. I guess the 2 SRB would launch the ET and ICPS/Orion?

 

[Urwumpe]

Not sure what he really wants. I guess the 2 SRB would launch the ET and ICPS/Orion?

Well, you have to think different there.

Take a Space Shuttle.

And now remove cockpit and wings. We need no ECLSS or fuel cells and their fuel tanks, remove them. Also the Ku band antenna must go. Next enlarge the payload bay. Add cheap conical nose cover for aerodynamics.

I think OMS and APUs are still inplace, since the Ascent TVC needs hydraulic power and the OMS is needed for Orbit insertion. Also the RCS must still be there (but reduced) for separation from ET.

 

[gattispilot]

Yes. Like the shuttle C it has the shuttle thrust system. I have asked about that. And he justs wants the ICPS/orion on top of an et and SRb. I am just following the suggestion. I think it is wrong though.

 

[Urwumpe]

There was also a lighter two engine version for it: https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/19900004966

And I was wrong. The nose cone was actually a reentry capule for recovering the avionics.

Preliminary design of the Shuttle-C avionics recovery system - NASA Technical Reports Server (NTRS)

The analysis done in developing a recovery system for the Shuttle-C cargo vehicle is presented. This recovery system is comprised of a reentry capsule which houses the vehicles avionics. The avionics are contained in a single package which is extracted from the capsule by the parachute recovery...

ntrs.nasa.gov

 

[Urwumpe]

Yes. Like the shuttle C it has the shuttle thrust system. I have asked about that. And he justs wants the ICPS/orion on top of an et and SRb. I am just following the suggestion. I think it is wrong though.

Well, that would be more like Jupiter, wouldn't it?

DIRECT & Jupiter Rocket Family - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[gattispilot]

Sounds like it

 

[gattispilot]

The Jupiter family looks like the SLS.