Orbiter 2016

Enjo · Sep 2, 2016

Nicholas Kang said:
How to make the train work then? You see, they shouldn't exist without motion, as if they were ancient artifacts displayed in museums.

You have to program them to work. Do you know C++?

PhantomCruiser · Sep 2, 2016

It's a known issue with the D3D9 graphics client. For now, if you want moving trains you'll need to use the in-line graphics.

Face · Sep 2, 2016

hutchison66 said:
Great Job Martin but if I can't get Shuttle Fleet working my whole Orbiter setup is wasted and will stick to 2010
not angry not your fault, but for now will delete it and leave the package as a zip file

David413 - the author of Shuttle Fleet - does not frequent these forums anymore AFAIK. He visits DanSteph's forums, though. Therefore your post would make much more sense over there.

Nicholas Kang · Sep 2, 2016

Enjo said:
You have to program them to work. Do you know C++?

PhantomCruiser said:
It's a known issue with the D3D9 graphics client. For now, if you want moving trains you'll need to use the in-line graphics.

Hello Enjo and (Mentor) PhantomCruiser, I am not familiar with C++, though I know about basic input/output iostream, iomanip, int, float, double long double long long int etc. I can only create very basic and primitive equation solver using an online compiler. All in all, I am still a beginner. Enjo, you are defintely already an expert. Never mind, I shall wait until the next release of d3d9 graphic client to solve this problem. After all, the little train isn't disturbing, it is not the main actor in most simulator, except for the fact that, keep an eye not to crash the train and its passengers while flying the delta-glider.

Thanks for telling me to use the in-line graphic, mentor PC (opps, that's rude). I already checked the train that works with the in-line graphic. It is working fine.

Enjo, I have one off-topic question. When will you publish your LaunchMFD for Orbiter 2016? I have trouble getting DG to the ISS in Orbiter 2016.

Thanks, Enjo and mentor PC.

Best wishes,

Nicholas.

astroavion · Sep 2, 2016

I love it. Graphics are way better. I only have one complaint and that is adding and positioning vessels in a scenario. I wish it was more like Prepared flight sim; pick a spot, change the vessel and go. And a slew function would be cool, too.

But thanks for the new version, Martin. You have given me at least ten years of fun with this hobby.

Pipcard · Sep 2, 2016

Face said:
That was removed intentionally (and pretty early in the beta) AFAIK. You can use the sidebar displays instead.

I just wanted to disable the info display if I'm recording video.

Enjo · Sep 2, 2016

Nicholas Kang said:
Enjo, I have one off-topic question. When will you publish your LaunchMFD for Orbiter 2016? I have trouble getting DG to the ISS in Orbiter 2016.

Use the Beta 55 version. Check my sig.

martins · Sep 2, 2016

Pipcard said:
I just wanted to disable the info display if I'm recording video.

Right-click on the main menu. Select Hide or Auto-hide for menu and infobars.

You can even suppress the permanent or flashing pause/resume notifications if they interfere with the video.

Edit: If you hide the main menu, you can get it back with F4.

hutchison66 · Sep 2, 2016

Shuttle Fleet

Face said:
David413 - the author of Shuttle Fleet - does not frequent these forums anymore AFAIK. He visits DanSteph's forums, though. Therefore your post would make much more sense over there.

Yeah I know and he won't probably update it, I was just saying that with out Shuttle fleet I have no use for 2016 I have 100 different Missions and there is nothing like Shuttle fleet to replace it.

Face · Sep 2, 2016

hutchison66 said:
Yeah I know and he won't probably update it, I was just saying that with out Shuttle fleet I have no use for 2016 I have 100 different Missions and there is nothing like Shuttle fleet to replace it.

Why do you think that he won't update it? Also, what about SSU? I wouldn't call that "nothing like Shuttle fleet".

dbeachy1 · Sep 3, 2016

I noticed this error today in Orbiter.log using the default DirectX7 client (this is loading up the default Delta-glider\DG-S ready for takeoff scenario):

Code:

000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_BLTFASTCANTCLIP
000000.000: >>> [OrbiterGraphics::clbkBlt | .\OGraphics.cpp | 1633]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------

Is this a known error? It only happens with the internal DirectX7 client; it does not occur with D3D9. (I am using the high-res textures, BTW.)

Full Orbiter.log:

Code:

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 2.92572e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 9
000000.000: Devices accepted: 7
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)) (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)) #2 (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (NVIDIA TITAN X (Pascal)) #2 (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module OrbiterSound.dll ...... [Build 121120, API 100830]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Window 1924 x 1177 x 32
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 32 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> ERROR: DDraw error DDERR_BLTFASTCANTCLIP
000000.000: >>> [OrbiterGraphics::clbkBlt | .\OGraphics.cpp | 1633]
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module DeltaGlider.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module LuaInline.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ShuttleA.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ShuttlePB.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: Finished initialising panels
000003.354: **** Closing simulation session

JonnyBGoode · Sep 3, 2016

JonnyBGoode said:
It does it for me, too.

Also, when you start the "Moon through atmosphere" level, the shuttle pops up into the air a few hundred feet and then drops to the ground. The camera also tilts into the ground sharply when this happens.

Also: The "Delta-glider > Virtual cockpit" scenario starts with the DG in the bushes a hundred feet or so to the west of the runway. :lol:

Wolf · Sep 3, 2016

hutchison66 said:
well just set 2016 up and as I feared the most important add on for me, Shuttle Fleet doesn't work so won't be changing over any time soon as its not worth it for a few pretty textures on the ground.. Great Job Martin but if I can't get Shuttle Fleet working my whole Orbiter setup is wasted and will stick to 2010
not angry not your fault, but for now will delete it and leave the package as a zip file

Anyone knows if David413 will eventually release a Fleet update for Orbiter2016?

Face · Sep 3, 2016

Wolf said:
Anyone knows if David413 will eventually release a Fleet update for Orbiter2016?

Cras may know some rumors about it, as he is active here and at DanSteph's place, and was also in contact with David413 in the past. The later was last active at Dan's on 26th August 2016, so if you ask him there, chances are good you'll get the best possible answer: from the author directly.

gattispilot · Sep 3, 2016

ok. I downloaded it. But in window it runs good except I can't see all the cockpit on a DG. On full screen it seems to be loading and loading and loading. tried different video settings. But it seems to lock ed on Full Screen.
here is the log:

Code:

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 6.83947e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1024 x 768 x 16
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: Yes
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 16 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: 8
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module ShuttleA.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DeltaGlider.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module LuaInline.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: >>> WARNING: Obsolete API function used: oapiTriggerRedrawArea
000000.000: Replaced by VESSEL::TriggerRedrawArea
000000.000: ---------------------------------------------------------------
000000.000: Finished initialising panels

SolarLiner · Sep 4, 2016

Milouse over on the Dan's forums reported Orbiter NG causing Avira heuristics to be triggered and unvalidate the executable (which I presume is a security measure taken to prevent execution). Deactivating the antivirus software makes Orbiter NG fine.

He didn't say if it happened regardless of the D3D9 Client being activated or not.

gattispilot · Sep 5, 2016

Here are my specs. Not sure why full screen locks up. when i launch it goes to the home screen and a blue circle spins and then goes away.

Code:

------------------
System Information
------------------
      Time of this report: 9/4/2016, 17:57:12
             Machine name: DESKTOP-0B4SRES
         Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit (10.0, Build 10586) (10586.th2_release.160802-1857)
                 Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
      System Manufacturer: Hewlett-Packard
             System Model: 110-243w
                     BIOS: 80.05
                Processor: AMD A4-5000 APU with Radeon(TM) HD Graphics     (4 CPUs), ~1.5GHz
                   Memory: 8192MB RAM
      Available OS Memory: 7628MB RAM
                Page File: 1904MB used, 6940MB available
              Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
          DirectX Version: 12
      DX Setup Parameters: Not found
         User DPI Setting: Using System DPI
       System DPI Setting: 96 DPI (100 percent)
          DWM DPI Scaling: Disabled
                 Miracast: Available, with HDCP
Microsoft Graphics Hybrid: Not Supported
           DxDiag Version: 10.00.10586.0000 64bit Unicode

log:

Code:

**** Orbiter.log
000000.000: Build Aug 28 2016 [v.160828]
000000.000: Timer precision: 6.83947e-007 sec
000000.000: Found 0 joystick(s)
000000.000: Devices enumerated: 6
000000.000: Devices accepted: 5
000000.000: [ ] RGB Emulation (SW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (HW)
000000.000: [ ] Direct3D HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: [x] Direct3D T&L HAL (AMD Radeon HD 8330) (HW)
000000.000: Module AtlantisConfig.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module AtmConfig.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module DGConfigurator.dll .... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: 
000000.000: **** Creating simulation session
000000.000: DirectDraw interface OK
000000.000: Direct3D interface OK
000000.000: Graphics: Viewport: Fullscreen 1024 x 768 x 16
000000.000: Graphics: Hardware T&L capability: No
000000.000: Graphics: Z-buffer depth: 16 bit
000000.000: Graphics: Active lights supported: -1
000000.000: Loading 15382 records from star database
000000.000: Module Sun.dll ............... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(E) Sun: Precision 1e-006, Terms 554/6634
000000.000: Module Mercury.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mercury: Precision 1e-005, Terms 167/7123
000000.000: Module Venus.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module VenusAtm2006.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Venus: Precision 1e-005, Terms 79/1710
000000.000: Module Earth.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module EarthAtmJ71G.dll ...... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Earth: Precision 1e-008, Terms 2564/2564
000000.000: Module Moon.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
ELP82: Precision 1e-005, Terms 116/829
000000.000: Module Mars.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module MarsAtm2006.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Mars: Precision 1e-005, Terms 405/6400
000000.000: Module Phobos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Deimos.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Galsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Jupiter.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Jupiter: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1624/3625
000000.000: Module Io.dll ................ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Europa.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Ganymede.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Callisto.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Satsat.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module Saturn.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Saturn: Precision 1e-006, Terms 2904/6365
000000.000: Module Mimas.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Mimas: Terms 113
000000.000: Module Enceladus.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Enceladus: Terms 33
000000.000: Module Tethys.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Tethys: Terms 101
000000.000: Module Dione.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Dione: Terms 59
000000.000: Module Rhea.dll .............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Rhea: Terms 68
000000.000: Module Titan.dll ............. [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Titan: Terms 100
000000.000: Module Iapetus.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
SATSAT Iapetus: Terms 605
000000.000: Module Uranus.dll ............ [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Uranus: Precision 1e-006, Terms 1827/5269
000000.000: Module Miranda.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Ariel.dll ............. [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Umbriel.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Titania.dll ........... [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Oberon.dll ............ [Build ******, API 060425]
000000.000: Module Neptune.dll ........... [Build 160828, API 160828]
VSOP87(B) Neptune: Precision 1e-006, Terms 391/2024
000000.000: Finished initialising world
000000.000: Module DeltaGlider.dll ....... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module LuaInline.dll ......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Module ShuttleA.dll .......... [Build 160828, API 160828]
000000.000: Finished initialising status
000000.000: Finished initialising camera
000000.000: Finished setting up render state
000000.000: Finished initialising panels

ADSWNJ · Sep 5, 2016

Just doing a final set of validation on Glideslope and BaseSync, but they are on short final to OrbitHangar. I'm looking carefully at landing at altitude ... e.g. Edwards is now at 705m, and Brighton Beach we know is in a deep hole!

Longjap · Sep 5, 2016

Oh wow, it has arrived! Awesome Martins. Thanks for your work and sharing!

gattispilot · Sep 5, 2016

ok. I found out my Orbiter100830 doesn't run well in Full window.
So I tried in window 1920x1080 same as the other orbiter. I get 23 fps.

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