[News] Sun and planets may have formed differently

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NASA / NASA JPL:
NASA Mission Suggests Sun and Planets Constructed Differently

June 23, 2011

PASADENA, Calif. - Researchers analyzing samples returned by NASA's 2004 Genesis mission have discovered that our sun and its inner planets may have formed differently than previously thought.

Data revealed differences between the sun and planets in oxygen and nitrogen, which are two of the most abundant elements in our solar system. Although the difference is slight, the implications could help determine how our solar system evolved.

"We found that Earth, the moon, as well as Martian and other meteorites which are samples of asteroids, have a lower concentration of the O-16 than does the sun," said Kevin McKeegan, a Genesis co-investigator from UCLA, and the lead author of one of two Science papers published this week. "The implication is that we did not form out of the same solar nebula materials that created the sun -- just how and why remains to be discovered."

The air on Earth contains three different kinds of oxygen atoms which are differentiated by the number of neutrons they contain. Nearly 100 percent of oxygen atoms in the solar system are composed of O-16, but there are also tiny amounts of more exotic oxygen isotopes called O-17 and O-18. Researchers studying the oxygen of Genesis samples found that the percentage of O-16 in the sun is slightly higher than on Earth or on other terrestrial planets. The other isotopes' percentages were slightly lower.

Another paper detailed differences between the sun and planets in the element nitrogen. Like oxygen, nitrogen has one isotope, N-14, that makes up nearly 100 percent of the atoms in the solar system, but there is also a tiny amount of N-15. Researchers studying the same samples saw that when compared to Earth's atmosphere, nitrogen in the sun and Jupiter has slightly more N-14, but 40 percent less N-15. Both the sun and Jupiter appear to have the same nitrogen composition. As is the case for oxygen, Earth and the rest of the inner solar system are very different in nitrogen.

"These findings show that all solar system objects including the terrestrial planets, meteorites and comets are anomalous compared to the initial composition of the nebula from which the solar system formed," said Bernard Marty, a Genesis co-investigator from Centre de Recherches Pétrographiques et Géochimiques and the lead author of the other new Science paper. "Understanding the cause of such a heterogeneity will impact our view on the formation of the solar system."

Data were obtained from analysis of samples Genesis collected from the solar wind, or material ejected from the outer portion of the sun. This material can be thought of as a fossil of our nebula because the preponderance of scientific evidence suggests that the outer layer of our sun has not changed measurably for billions of years.

"The sun houses more than 99 percent of the material currently in our solar system, so it's a good idea to get to know it better," said Genesis Principal Investigator Don Burnett of the California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, Calif. "While it was more challenging than expected, we have answered some important questions, and like all successful missions, generated plenty more."

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For more information on the Genesis mission, visit: http://genesismission.jpl.nasa.gov.
 

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Wait a minute...how was the CNO cycle? ;)

Most of it is just O15, but 0.04% of the nuclear reactions in the sun have O16 as reaction step.
 

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Interesting. Asteroids and Mars / Phobos samples should bring even more data to confirm this.
 

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Oh, great! I've been working on a solar disk accretion program for the past 6 months, then these guys show up. I wanna have a talk to Isaac Newton... right now !!:facts:
 

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Oh, great! I've been working on a solar disk accretion program for the past 6 months, then these guys show up. I wanna have a talk to Isaac Newton... right now !!:facts:

The universe hasn't changed, only our perception of it has. This reminds me of the people who liked velociraptors better "before they had feathers". They always had feathers, and preferring a less accurate approximation is never scientifically sound.
 

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This reminds me of the people who liked velociraptors better "before they had feathers". They always had feathers, and preferring a less accurate approximation is never scientifically sound.

They always had feathers, but the depictions did not. It is no scientific debate, but rather whether one has preference for a featherless or feathered depiction of the organism.

But it is extremely annoying, I don't know why you have to be a 'scaly monster' to be an impressive organism, especially when being endothermic and 'intelligent' negates that. It makes very little sense for an endotherm to lack insulation completely, and the organisms depicted in Jurassic Park would have had problems keeping themselves warm.

Of course, what people should really be whining about, is the fact that all along, it has been known that Velociraptor was about the size of a dog:
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Which does indeed make a comical comparison to the depictions of such animals in film.

Perhaps a better choice of [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dromaeosauridae"]dromaeosaurid[/ame] would have been Deinonychus:

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Or Utahraptor, with specimens perhaps indicating a size much greater than that of a human:
Utahraptor_scale.png
 
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These two papers aren't enough to overthrow what we already think we know. We just don't have enough samples yet...
 

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The Sun and Jupiter?
What has been factored out? Does relativity play a role? (i imagine those strange isotopes decay)
 

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A thought: after the Sun formed, the lighter N-14 and O-16 evaporated from the inner part of the protoplanetary disk faster than the heavier isotopes as radiation pressure drove them outwards. Further out where the gas giants formed, this effect was weaker due to the lesser heat and radiation pressure out there. The result would then be that the inner system would be preferentially depleted of the lightest isotopes.
 
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