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Michael Jackson dead at age 50

I personally think MJ deep inside was still a boy trapped in a adults body.

I think that he was not only a boy trapped in an adults body. I think he even had no identity at all. So he made his own identity, which was way off a small black boy. He created his own "Michael Jackson". He made the king of pop. A creature which, at the end, looked almost like one of the zombies of his Thriller video to be honest. I really feel sorry for him.

We have to imagine to be alone, fenced off from the public all the time as far as possible. And then you have those big shows and appearances, almost suddenly. Thousands of people scream and shout out your name without really knowing you. They just shout out the name of a character you have created. And then you are alone in silent again. If this would be my life, I think I would have big problems to answer if somebody would ask me who I am really...

I just remember Michaels awesome Superbowl half time show in 1993 (even Elvis, the Stones and Beatles fade compared to such events, and not to mention the sold records only during Michaels lifetime...). Or when he just visited the German TV Show "Wetten Dass...?" when an interview was almost impossible due to the screaming fans. Such events are a big contrast to his lonely private life he lived and actually had to live because of his popularity. He could only get freaky. I think this is why some kings and stars get freaky. Plus he had no childhood. This was actually deadly.


 
And a shout-out for Farrah Fawcett: RIP, Angel...

So say I...:ditto:

Just a quick comment about Michael Jackson, as I was more ao an Electric Light Orchestra / Supertramp / Alan Parson's Project listener at the time. That said, I did like the album Thriller and the previous song "Living Off the Wall". Anyone notice a similarity between this song and ELO's "Last Train to London", at the beginning, or is it just me with my untuned ear hearing things? It was this song that convinced me that MJ had a problem with his peristaltic action, BTW; he always seemed to have hiccups when he sang...

Anyway, RIP to a great artist...
 
By the way, isn't it irony of fate? Jackson feard to die the same way the father of his wife, the King, did...

 
That is ironic, if not suprising. The world of celebrities is full of similar stories of excess, alienation, desperation, and stupid behavior.
 
More funny is the fact, that Jackson managed to visit a friend in Germany secretly with his kids without the world noticing it and just did nothing else than trying to enjoy a plain and simple family life. I think the real problem is, if you are never able to shed your public skin and relax in your privacy. This means you will one day snap out and never find a difference between real life and the public figure - which is not a living being at all.

Just look at the death of Lady Diana, which was literally hunted into death. Or look at Ozzy Osbourne, who also never really leaves the stage figure behind - the more he is away from stage, the more he turns into a helpless guy who has to ask his wife (and manager) about what to do next....
 
And then there are the ones who seem to handle it very well. Christina Aguilara comes to mind as a glittery pop star who seems to be very in control of her business.
 
Well, Aguilera also manages lately to have her private life pretty well separated from the show... while Spears has turned her private life into the better show.
 
Being a pop star is to be slave of a record company.
Your daily life becomes: Sing at the concert, sign autographs, go to the bus, sing at the concert, sign autographs, go to the bus...
The ones making money are the executives of those companies who are able to have family life.
The irony is that Jackson is worth more dead as a legfend than alive. Dead people do not need a salary.

Also, the irony is that 1/6 of mankind is starved and media focus attention on Jackson. Probably 1 billion people starved do not make a headline.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8109698.stm
It means that the money that one dead pop star is worth more than 1 billion human beings on the planet.
 
Wow, another nugget of wisdom.

Yeah, but it looks like wisdom is currently suffering from hyperinflation.

I doubt Madonna is the slave of the music industry... Or that the Rolling Stones are still playing because their record company (or their bank account) tells them so. And even Michael Jackson did not play music according to the industry - his greatest albums had been nothing less than a revolution against all standards at that time.

If you want a short and painful career, listen to the music industry as artist. Even the German Grand Master of Music Industrialization (Dieter Bohlen) does not listen to his record company, but claims (often correctly) to know better what the people want.

The music industry consists of people who have no idea on how to make music or how music should sound like so people will buy it. They only know how to sell music in a old fashioned way. And they are pretty good in it. Not all labels are so stupid to ignore the changing times or fight against the changes. Many are howling with the wolves and make a lot of money with the Internet and by putting again more emphasis on tours. Can somebody imagine that the 1990s had been full of artists, who had been marketed as superstars without even having done a single large tour?

I remember a story about 'N Sync. Before they really had been famous, they already toured Germany, playing in small clubs and city halls. A friend of me, who was a drummer in a Metal band and later became a pretty good Jazz guitarist, managed to get into the concert by claiming to be writing for a school newspaper. The first guy he ran into with his fake identity was the tour manager of the band, who gave him a free ticket and an interview. He already said the next day that Timberlake was the only guy who really had talent, and he was in the hindsight, pretty right with his estimate.

What is special about that: Today, we believe that boygroups had been pushed simply by MTV and youth magazines. That is true to an extend, but the reality is more complex: Even while being closer to employees than other bands, they had to go the classic musicians career and tour, tour, tour and tour. And play in towns, which name you couldn't even spell.

Just being placed on heavy rotation by MTV makes you just a star for 5 minutes, just like Andy Warhol predicted. If you really work hard and really have talent, but stay away from the music industry, you will maybe become a local hero. Known to die hard fans in your hometown. Maybe known to insiders and experts. But if you combine both talent and the services of the music industry (You don't need to sell your soul, your music is enough), you can become great - because these people not only have the money to finance stuff before you are famous enough to pay the price, but they also have the media power to bring you into places, which you wouldn't reach with your talent alone usually.

You need the managers of the music industry as artist as much as you have reasons to hate them. Of course they will try to limit your freedom. It is part of the deal. But IMHO, you rarely have the situation, that you are criminally enslaved - such attempts exist, and that is bad enough, but not the standard.
 
[nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9gdJbvWtgs"]YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.[/nomedia]

F***g copyright issues going on at Youtube :compbash:
 
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Michael Jackson vs Apollo?

Well, in about 24 hours, the obsequy for Michael Jackson is going to begin. There might be roughly about as twice as much TV viewer as during the Apollo 11 landing...
 
We can put a man on the moon, but we can't make people like Michael Jackson any less. Boo hoo.
 
THIS THREAD IS STILL ACTIVE????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!! He's been dead for a couple of weeks! People need to get over the fact that he's STILL DEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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