Science Higgs Boson found?

[Cras]

but teleportation is a proved thing. It has been done, thanks to the wonders of quantum entanglement. Granted, not at the size of a human, or even the size of an atom actaully, but it has been done in a lab.

 

[Jarvitä]

but teleportation is a proved thing. It has been done, thanks to the wonders of quantum entanglement. Granted, not at the size of a human, or even the size of an atom actaully, but it has been done in a lab.

All we have to figure out is how to reliably assemble 10^30 atoms with their original relative positions and velocities. And convince all the uneducated rabble there's no such thing as instance.

 

[mojoey]

There is an episode of Star Trek where (off-screen, in the past) Starfleet and some scientist did some experiments on a super long-range transporter device. The inventor's son had gone through and ended up in some remote barren section of space with no stars, like a void. And not fully materialized back either. Pretty spooky stuff.

This is not like the few episodes where some crewmembers came out of the transporter phased the wrong way, and invisible. Those were fun episodes because they could walk through walls and spy without being seen.

The episode I'm talking about downright spooky because it happens in far away space and involves wandering essences.

if your talking about the Star Trek Enterprise episode, i disown that entire series... :rant:

 

[blane]

I remember that episode where Geordi and Ro Laren came out of the reporter "phased wrong". This was most annoying. So they could walk thru walls and objects but why didn't they fall through the floor? :uhh:

 

[JEL]

Ha, I wish I could collect all the internet bets I've made on LHC not destroying the Earth. Technically, I've already won them all when they did the first 7 TeV collision.

You wanna rehash your talk about 'the great filter' now?

Distressing news. The Great Filter is slowly creeping forward from our ancient past, into the future.

Yeah, unless they're taking the actual atoms that make up my body and physically transporting them, count me out. I'm not up for having my ass vaporized and a copy assembled out of a pile of matter somewhere else.

Here's a fun thread to read (the posters disagree about the issue, but it's a fun read)
http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/56869-every-atom-in-you-is-replaced-after-7-years/

 

[Jarvitä]

I remember that episode where Geordi and Ro Laren came out of the reporter "phased wrong". This was most annoying. So they could walk thru walls and objects but why didn't they fall through the floor? :uhh:

The polarity was reversed.

(can we stop discussing fictional evidence now?)

 

[Keatah]

This is explained away as some sort of interaction with the grav-plating in the decks. And it makes sense.

Star Trek as given us a lot of cool things, like the BlueTooth headset, the iPad, the cellphone, the library computer, and especially the bridge layout. The layout has been studied extensively by modern shipbuilders.

And the same thing will probably happen with a lot of the fictional particles they talk about.

 

[T.Neo]

And the same thing will probably happen with a lot of the fictional particles they talk about.

:beathead:

No, it does not work th- aw, what the heck. I want a darn warp drive.

 

[jedidia]

The layout has been studied extensively by modern shipbuilders.

I just hope they don't adapt the silly notions of no seatbelts and no chair for tac-ops.

 

[Ghostrider]

Above all, hope they don't adapt the bridge position, smack in the middle of the saucer section where every Romulan and his brother know where it is and can knock it out with a well-aimed shot.

 

[Loru]

Also I hope modern control panels are not made of explosive parts:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ExplosiveInstrumentation

 

[Cras]

so...

how about that Higgs boson?

 

[rodion_herrera]

Anyone remember an old science fiction short story called "The Jaunt"?

In this story, physicists and engineers finally were able to build a teleporter. But there was one problem--when they first tested it on animals, i.e. a bird, the bird would pass through fine, but upon reappearance on the other portal, the bird would fall over and drop dead. They tried and tried to figure out what's wrong but they never did. However, they found an interim solution--put the animal/human to sleep, and it actually worked. They just woke up the subject upon reappearance.

Then one day this boy who was about to go to Mars, skipped the sleeping injection and jumped into the teleporter...and he found out WHY you needed to be asleep. Even though the trip to Mars was only a mere split second when using the teleporter, your EXPERIENCE of being INSIDE the teleporter limbo was BILLIONS of YEARS...that's BILLIONS of YEARS of SHEER BOREDOM...it's described to be like looking at static on a TV screen...for BILLIONS of years...and thus when the kid emerged, he was so shocked at the sudden change in scenery that he had a heart attack...fell over and died, like the bird.



-RODION

 

[Ghostrider]

Wasn't it a Stephen King short? If I remember correctly...

--- SPOILER ---

... The kid who's going to Mars with his family holds his breath during anesthesia so he makes the trip awake. On arrival, he's out of his mind and gouges out his own eyes.

Hyperspace trips are bad for your sight. Ask Dr Weir...

 

[blane]

Travel.

 

[rodion_herrera]

Wasn't it a Stephen King short? If I remember correctly...

--- SPOILER ---

... The kid who's going to Mars with his family holds his breath during anesthesia so he makes the trip awake. On arrival, he's out of his mind and gouges out his own eyes.

Hyperspace trips are bad for your sight. Ask Dr Weir...

Hmm you're probably right...though the ending I remember is a bit different...I certainly would have remembered "gouges out his own eyes", that's pretty graphic!

-RODION

 

[JEL]

[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jaunt"]The Jaunt - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

 

[Keatah]

I almost forgot about it. It was one of the first Stephen King novels I read. I always wondered about what type of particles might transmit matter across distances. Or what types of disturbances are needed - to make mass disappear here and appear there. And what particles would effect those disturbances. How would we specify it happens there as opposed to there there, or here?

I bet there's a lot more going on inside particle accelerators and the collision chambers then scientists are aware of. It's the detectors that are limiting. They are not simply aware of phi-gravitic slices or elastomeric boson gradients. That's yet to be explored in the lab.

 

[T.Neo]

I bet we are yet to detect charged handwavions.

 

[Cras]

teleporting is a real possibility. It will of course still be subject to the speed of however you transmit the information, so no instantaneous teleportation from here to Mars.

You could argue how instantaneous it would seem to the teleported subject, but as the act of measuring the phase of the subject particles destroys them, I would say not so much instantaneous as rather murder.

But as teleportation has absolutely nothing to do with a Higgs field, or a possible boson for a particular Higgs field that gives mass its behaviour, I think we best leave it for a different topic.

One thing I do wonder is, when will people stop referring to the Higgs Boson as the "God Particle"?