Updates Blue Origin announces the New Glenn Orbital Launch Vehicle

A breathtaking success for a private company . . . in an alternate timeline where SpaceX doesn’t exist. :)
Well, I remember when the first launch of Falcon-1 failed miserably, and it took 4 attempts to reach orbit, and that was a much, much smaller rocket than NG, and look where SpaceX is today. Why write-off Blue Origin?
 
A breathtaking success for a private company . . . in an alternate timeline where SpaceX doesn’t exist. :)

Imagine an alternate timeline, with only Edison Electric in the USA. Maybe it wasn't a bad timeline with a "war of currents" with Westinghouse and over 30 others, that had Thomas Alva Edison among the losers of the war.

Also, why should any investor have invested into SpaceX in a timeline, where Kistler Aerospace existed? Or earlier: Pacific American Launch Systems, founded by Gary Hudson (Which later also did ROTON).
 
I admit that I thought BO was going to be a poor competitor to SpaceX, with them already having an operational fleet of reusable boosters, and BO just doing these suborbital amusement park rides. That they made it to orbit on their first launch is pretty impressive. They are also trying to recover a much larger stage than the Falcon 9 which might present some different (or at least more intense) technical challenges, and they're attempting a landing ship recovery right out of the chute vs. a RTLS landing. They might have to blow up some rockets before they sort out the details, but if they are taking data and learning lessons, they will get there eventually.

If they can get New Glenn working and start regularly recovering stages, it could be an interesting competitive dynamic with SpaceX. It has a much higher payload to orbit capability than the Falcon 9, and it might eventually beat Falcon 9 in price/lb to orbit. It's smaller than Falcon Heavy, but it seems that there is a very limited market for missions that require FH performance, and several of the FH missions that did needed all the performance where they had to expend boosters. New Glenn might be closer to a Goldilocks sized booster for economic Earth orbital operations.

The wild card is Starship/SuperHeavy, but I don't see that system as a major competitor for Earth orbital operations. StarLink might enjoy being able to put up whole satellite constellations in one launch, but I don't know any satellite companies outside of StarLink that would like to risk their entire constellation on a single rocket launch. Payload deployment still needs to get sorted out, and the Pez dispenser might only work for certain payloads. I don't think a 9 m fairing is ever going to be a thing. Starship/Superheavy is really meant to chase the white whale of going to Mars which I think is unlikely to be a profitable mission market for a long time yet. They're dreaming of using it for point-to-point travel on Earth, but I don't see anyone happy with loading hundreds of people on the thing and doing the Adama maneuver to touchdown, even if it gets you there in 90 minutes or less. I think they'll get Starship/Superheavy working, but it may not have missions outside of a mad billionaire's desire to go to Mars.

Interesting times.
 
Very good result by BO, actually. They may be behind with their development, but SpaceX was behind ULA when building F1 and F9.

In the mean time, "Starship go boom hurr hurr" is getting really old.
 
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Has anyone seen any pictures / footage of the landing attempt from the landing barge? Curious to know what the issue was with recovery.
 
Has anyone seen any pictures / footage of the landing attempt from the landing barge? Curious to know what the issue was with recovery.
I don't think it ever got close to the barge, telemetry stopped at the reentry burn. Seems to be a significant lag in telemetry since the host confirms the burn several seconds before the telemetry reflects it, but going from when speed starts to decrease, that would have been relight around 40 km. Supposedly from pre-flight official material it was expected at 67 km, which is also roughly crossed when the ticker hits "booster reentry burn", might have just got too hot or dynamic.

It's been noted that 67 km is 41.6 miles, but I'd hope that's just a funny coincidence.
 
A breathtaking success for a private company . . . in an alternate timeline where SpaceX doesn’t exist. :)

BO's first step was much more promising than SpaceX's with the Falcon 1. That said, New Glenn is already closer to an operational vehicle than Starship and with about three times the capabilities of the Falcon 9. Not bad, don't you think ?
 
BO's first step was much more promising than SpaceX's with the Falcon 1. That said, New Glenn is already closer to an operational vehicle than Starship and with about three times the capabilities of the Falcon 9. Not bad, don't you think ?
Not bad, but please compare it with SpaceX's FH. Starship is fundamentally a new concept. And this is the reason than many, including myself, are addicted to it. And from this perspective, this BO success is "more regular", let say.
 
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