An Australian space program.

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Hey guys, i was thinking i shouldnt Australia have a space program, were not going to be on earth for very long so we might as well start of a little, were technically being left behind in the dirt. Australia also doesnt even have to have a full blown manned space program, we can expirment with satilites and space probes. I know it might coast a hell of alot of money but to be honerst i think it's worth it. Exploration is the next big thing, last century it was the leg warmers, pogo stick and aiming nucelear war heads at eachother. We have to look forward to the future not count on other nations such as the USA to bring up our weather satillites. We have the capbilites to do it, we have some of the smartest thinkers just sitting there waiting for something to happen, we have enough pilots who are brilliant candidates for a space program, we kind of set for life, now we just kind of need a go from the head honchos.
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Ryan.
 
So what does everyone think of that, would that be enough to put a little urge in those politicians to think of starting an Australian Space Program, it doesnt need to be Australian anyway it could be Australian and New Zealand Space Program (ANZSP)
 
I think you're getting about the same response as anyone who says "so, how about an Australian space program". The deathly silence of apathy... ;)
 
A sort of speech i wrote up about a could be Aussie space program.



I believe that this nation of Australia and its sister nation New Zealand should join in the most prized exploration man will ever embark on…. The exploration of Space. Our allies are leaving us behind in the dirt, the United States of America, the Russians, Chinese, India, Mexico, even the nations of Europe has bonded together to form an agency. Australia is yet to even show signs of interest in introducing a space program. Man will never do this again in its lifetime, the exploration of space only begins once, and Australia might as well be part of it. The point of having something like this will help Australia’s scientific groups, better understanding of our continent and the earth, exploring the heavens and reaching distant planets. Weather predictions will become clearer with weather satellites tracking every cloud coming and going from Australia’s shores. Climate change might be upon us, but we have the scientific brains creating new ways of rockets not taking up as much of pollution, there wasting there time, because the government will not even think about it. The knowledge we could grasp with having a space program is un thinkable, but for now it’s just waiting up in the stars where other nations are taking and sharing around there countries to make there country better than our country. We have the abilities to have a successful program, the trained air force pilots are great candidates for being astronauts and there willing also, we have the brain power sitting around in some office working on something that they think will never happen. The support for a program will be there, everyone’s seen what happened to the USA when they put a man on the moon, there nation bonded as one, we might not land a man on the moon, but exploring space is everyone, it’s the people who built the machine, it’s the people who fly it, the people who trust it, the people of Australia and New Zealand.

I’ve put the starting of a Australian space program will be about 19 billion dollars, this is just to start it up, build the headquarters all the stuff a behind the scenes of a space program needs. 1$ per a taxpayer from both Australia and New Zealand. Then there’s the decision where to put the launch site, either in Australia with large open deserts, but secluded from everything and the heat could effect the rockets, launch complex, the assembly building, the crawler, everything, even the astronauts themselves. Then there’s New Zealand, open wide spaces on both North and South islands, sometimes near places that might be useful, but the cold, the same effects as the heat would do, weather is always wet and cloudy. There are both pros and cons about both of the nations, then there’s a matter of where to put it exactly, a proper place to get spacecraft in orbit and be able to rendezvous with other international space craft such as the International Space Station. The best place to put it will probably be Woomera missile test range, but the radio- activity around the range is terribly high, so it’s not really the perfect place for people to work. Also is very deserted from any major cities or towns. Also somewhere In North Queensland will maybe be suited, far from any major cities but not far enough to be deserted, some places are easily accessible by planes and the right place to place a spacecraft into the correct orbit to rendezvous and dock with the International Space Station, or even align itself with a planet or even a comet, or maybe the moon. I’m thinking that ANZSP shouldn’t recruit astronauts straight away; we should wait, get everything set, test rockets, and test facilities, maybe send a couple of satellites up into orbit, then maybe hire some astronauts, looking mainly for test pilots or very experienced air force pilots, which have a university degree in any aviation, aerospace, aeronautics, physics, chemistry, engineering (A degree is required)
Also maybe some Geologist, Scientists, Astronomers, Doctors, Physician, Chemistries, and Specialists in either anything that has to do with science of space. Test pilot experience is recommended for an Astronauts application.

Mission control, the mission control centre will be in a populated place, a city the mandatory close to the launch centre, maybe in Canberra, Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane. If it’s in the desert of Australia we would use Adelaide or Darwin or Perth. I’m undecided where we would put the New Zealand Mission Control, maybe we could even have two mission controls, one in Australia and one in New Zealand. Also the same things could go for the launch centres, two of them, two quiet small but useable launch complexes, a maximum of maybe 5 launch towers, one Rocket Assembly Centre of Operations and Launch Control Building (RACOLCB).
Then there’s the decision of what kind of launch vehicles. Maybe ANZEP could design a completely new rocket, to push our satellites into orbit. We can’t just borrow NASA or ESA rocket design, but all launch vehicles that bring satellites into orbit are almost the same design. Mildly strong SRB boosters, maybe four of them on the side, a 2nd stage to place it into orbit around the earth, then there’s the satellite itself. The shroud the covers the satellite during launch will coast some weight on the rocket, the bigger the payload gets the larger it will have to be, maybe give it six SRB. The SRB will have to be re-usable, like the ones that NASA uses in the space shuttles. Solar panels will have to be used the satellites, the reason for the solar panels is they get connivent power source, they can be light when it comes to the launch vehicle lift off. The satellite will be placed in a special orbit that can only see Australia and New Zealand, this is only for the weather satellites, when the dark side of earth comes along where the satellite is, the weather camera will turn on night vision, so it can see clouds and all weather patterns through the camera, when it’s night in either Australia and New Zealand. This satellite it gain fast reliable weather data.

The second planned satellite will maybe be a sun experimenting probe. Gaining information about our nearest star. Solar wind experiment, infrared camera, solar power discharge experiment. Solar Experimental Satellite Program (SESP)
$1.3 billion will be put into the SESP; the 2nd SESP satellite that will be taken up will be one of the toughest to build. A rocket that will be able to travel to the sun, without being damaged by the solar discharge. The probe itself will be about 20 metres big all length and width. The biggest sun probe ever sent into orbit, the experiments that the probe will carry is the, solar wind experiment, infrared camera, x-ray camera, UV detector, UV camera, sun heat discharge experiment, then there will be a small LDEF type experiment with some carefully chosen materials that will be held out for long periods of time directed at the sun, normal camera, radiation detector, plasma detector. Then there’s a small impact probe that is attached to the main satellite. The probe will be sort of like the Galileo probe, atmosphere measure, gas detector, a small camera that will send back images to the main probe, and a big heat shield that will be protecting the other experiments from the suns heat. Big solar panels which will cover the experiments and some will stick out of the probe, the panels will be equipped with solar panel protectors that will protect the panels from the radiation and heat from the sun rays, the communication dish, that will send back the probes data and it’s images of the sun, will be placed on it, the dish will have heat shield tiles on the dish, so the communication isn’t effected by the radiation and heat from the sun. Backup springs will be placed on the bottom of the dish, so if it doesn’t open the backup springs will detect that the dish hasn’t opened and the backup springs will automatically fire if the dish doesn’t open when the probe wants to open it. We don’t want a half open dish, like NASA had on Galileo, the probe that explores the planet Jupiter and it’s interesting moons and it is still flying by Jupiter all the time. Near earth objects are very important, no space agency has really put money into it. With Parkes radio station, it could help us in this object a lot, we might just need modify the dish’s a bit. NASA and ESA or any other space agency can only track 3% of the sky. With cooperation with NASA and other space agency we could track even more of the sky, for example, NASA tracks one part of the sky, ESA tracks another, JSA tracks one and ANZEP tracks our part of the sky, monthly meetings we give data around, and so we could track more parts of the sky. The NEO satellites will be put in High Earth Orbit (HEO) but to get into High Earth Orbit will have to have a new more powerful rocket to push the satellite in this particular orbit. The reason of putting in HEO is so there’s no interference from small particles around the earth. The satellite will probably be very sensitive and have to be covered by very strong shroud covers during launch. The data that the satellite takes we be relayed straight to it’s mission control, the satellite will not save the data, the computers on the ground will record that data for the satellite. The satellite will be able to track the astroid or comets by either mission control or automatically, if it sees an moving object it locks on it automatically and if mission control sees it’s already been found and it’s been tracked it waves that one of and the satellite will remember that, but if the satellite doesn’t get the wave to not track the object it takes data, pictures, velocity, distance from earth. The first satellite will have two telescopes so it could track two objects at the same time, same capabilities as it’s counterpart. Automatic stabilisation will be fitted in, so if it find an object and the spacecraft may move, if it has an position the satellite will remember where it was, so it automatically goes straight back to the same place.
 
Australia kind of has a space program, according to NORAD you guys currently have 11 satellites up there. Most of which are comsats judging from the orbits.
 
Also, you already have the Woomera spaceport.
 
I'd go for Woomera, considering its history. It has had plans in the past for various launch trajectories:-

http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/Notebook_04/?action=view&current=File0003-2.jpg

Looks like they left Papua off the map.


Also has a down-range station here, if you want to launch from Cape York:-

http://s89.photobucket.com/albums/k207/Notebook_04/?action=view&current=File0002-1.jpg

Could be a bit out of date mind...

N.

ps, my face got closer and closer to the screen as I was reading your post. I must need new glasses!
 
But it is not like you can't use it. Kistler Aerospace wanted to launch there... but well, history. Important is: It already exists.

http://www.woomera.com.au/range/overview.htm
History is important because, politically, people will be used to launching rockets from there. Cape York would be problematic with both the Greens and the Aborigines. If you were looking for something closer to the equator, I'm sure we could lean on our friends on the world's smallest island nation, Nauru. At just 0.3°S it would be ideal and it's not like we haven't leant on them before. Could be a little bit of a political hot potato :whistle:

Australia kind of has a space program, according to NORAD you guys currently have 11 satellites up there. Most of which are comsats judging from the orbits.
"Kind of" a space program, indeed. They were generally built by commercial satellite suppliers from the States (Hughes, Loral, OSC) and launched on commercial launchers from overseas launch sites. The only exception that I can that I can think of is WRESAT, built and launched in Australia by the Dept of Defence on a Redstone launcher. One proud moment. I am a big fan of our astronauts, especially fellow Uni of Sydney alumnus Scully-Power, although he graduated some 30 years before me ;)
 
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