Alien Invasion!

[Hartmann]

Again, the aliens can wait for the fallout to cool off. Especially if they use "cleaner" warheads and only high airbursts. Then they sit tight in their ship for a few years and wait.

The bigger problem isn't radiation, it's that humans are pretty hard to exterminate. Even in a full-scale nuclear war some people are expected to survive. And unlike many species humans live almost everywhere on the planet.

Not very hard to exterminate after an intensive bombing with nukes, asteroids, EMP weapons and other that reduced much of the city and technology to rubble and burnt ruins.

After that the only option for survivors is an all or nothing fierce defense of the territory like in stalingrad "We will defend the city or die in the attempt" and “Not a step back!”

 

[Andy44]

Well, you can't "step back", since there is a planet behind you...

But you don't have to exterminate humans right away. Just keep them in a primitve state and herd them into reservations, slowly grinding them out of existence.

Think of native Americans. They put up a fight for a while, but they couldn't withstand the pressures of modern civilization, with its settlement and technology. Nomadic people living in tents just couldn't compete. They were blatantly hunted and exterminated, including women and children, and they were the same species!

Aliens won't have any qualms about treating us lowly ragamuffin hairless monkeys the same way.

 

[tblaxland]

Think of native Americans.[...]Aliens won't have any qualms about treating us lowly ragamuffin hairless monkeys the same way.

Yes, just give us a suitably addictive drug and we will do the damage ourselves, like alcohol did to the native Americans (and Aboriginal Australians, for that matter).

 

[Andy44]

Or cat food to the denizens of District 9!

Come to think of it, this was the way Well's Martians treated humans in War of the Worlds. The initial invasion was a military assault designed to destroy human society and reduce humans to a near-animal state, and then the plan was to herd us up like cattle and keep us alive for the purposes of food (blood) and maybe some forced labor or other uses.

And Wells, of course, was really satirizing the colonization of Africa.

 

[T.Neo]

Or cat food to the denizens of District 9!

:rofl:

Again, aliens will probably know little about our biology, so formulating some sort of addictive substance would be difficult without some study.

In reality, humans could be either totally non-nutritious or deadly to extraterrestrial invaders, so using us for food probably won't be a good idea. That, and they'll probably bring food organisms and/or advanced means of food manufacturing (i.e, "cloning" flesh from stem cells).

Slave labour might be a possibility, but then again automation and robotic assistance might make dirty, whiny and potentially rebellious slaves uneeded.

 

[Ghostrider]

Again, aliens will probably know little about our biology, so formulating some sort of addictive substance would be difficult without some study.

Why should they have to study us? They've probably seen our TV broadcasts and know that we like our booze and yoyo. They only need to learn how to mass-produce cocaine and they've got us.

Alternatively, they can abduct some pusher and interrogate him. So, if you see the local pusher population going down, beware.

 

[T.Neo]

Why should they have to study us? They've probably seen our TV broadcasts and know that we like our booze and yoyo. They only need to learn how to mass-produce cocaine and they've got us.

Radio noise from Earth dissipates into space within 2 light-years, AFAIK. Even if the aliens were to get signals, they would probably not be in a position to decode and comprehend them before the invasion. If they had only sub-lightspeed technology, and left their planet say 300 years ago, they wouldn't have recieved anything anyway.

And there is a communication barrier, which would be tricky to overcome.

If drugging the enemy was that simple, the war in Afghanistan or Viet Nam would have been won by air-dropping a few pallets of drugs and/or alchohol onto the warzone.

 

[vonneuman]

We probably would not see a generation ship invading Earth. More than likely we would face a Von Neuman probe. Yes that is were my name comes from. It is called the best way to explore space. Send a probe to another solar system, when it gets there it makes copies of it self, sends those to other systems and explores the solar system it is in. If one of the probes gets damaged and the programming gets messed up, well you could have a fleet of self-replicating space craft whose only goal is to make more of them selves. And there is a lot of material in our solar system .

Or you could have a probe whose mission is to go to a system and restart the civilization that created it. It would have to tweak the atmosphere if it was not perfect. Then it would have to destroy all life on the planet, bacteria and viruses would be alien to the new arrivals (ever see "War of the Worlds"?) and would have to be exterminated.

 

[n72.75]

The will save us.

 

[T.Neo]

More than likely we would face a Von Neuman probe.

Yet the purpose of a Von Neuman probe is to explore space. Without presence of an invading species (present or future), there is no reason for them to attack us.

If one of the probes gets damaged and the programming gets messed up, well you could have a fleet of self-replicating space craft whose only goal is to make more of them selves.

Which is a possible (although IMO very remote) situation.

Then again, I'd imagine even a relatively primitive military would fight a horde of research robots pretty easily.

 

[Andy44]

 

[Dig Gil]

Afterall it should be easy to defeat alien invaders!

 

[TSPenguin]

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[triplepogi2009]

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Thanks man, sorry about the "flame war", some guys just annoy me, I need to manage my anger more...