UFO is told to down a US missile

[ar81]

Yesterday in the news apparently a UFO attacked a US missile.
Footage of the incident was shown.
What do we know about such situation?

 

[Coolhand]

what kind of missile was it? was it on the ground - in the air presumably if it was 'downed'?

a number of ufo stories relate to them poking around nuclear ballastic missile sites - there's a story of them 'shutting down' US missiles somehow and i've heard a story from russia where a UFO apparently remotely triggered a ballistic missile launch sequence!

of course these stories have never been officially verified

It'd be great to see the footage... whatever it was.

 

[ar81]

It seemed to be US military footage on TV.
It said that many other incidents have been reported.
It seems that finally US files are being declassified.

 

[simonpro]

a number of ufo stories relate to them poking around nuclear ballastic missile sites - there's a story of them 'shutting down' US missiles somehow and i've heard a story from russia where a UFO apparently remotely triggered a ballistic missile launch sequence!

That is true. The first (to my - incomplete - knowledge) such event occured in the 80's when the Norwegians launched a sounding rocket from Andøya, but neglected to inform the Soviets, who got a little worried that it was an SLBM on a shot against Moscow. Soviet rocket forces went to an increased alert status, but the Norwegians quickly sorted out the situation.
The second event occured in 1995 when an ESA rocket was launched from Andøya, again without the correct notifications to Russia. That time it got a little further and the President (Yeltsin I think) was actually informed, it got to the stage where missile forces were readied and the launch briefcase was delivered to the President.
The third and final event happened in 2004 when another ESA rocket from Andøya (of which I worked on, there's a thread about it on M6 somewhere) was launched, but for some reason the Russian notification didn't reach the radar forces watching for missile attacks. Again they assumed it was an attack on Russia and again the missile forces were placed on high alert, it took about 10 (very worrying) minutes to get the Russians to realise what it was. The radar station probably realised within a minute or two, but their original warning caused quite a bit of confusion higher up the ranks.
There's probably good odds on it happening again sometime soon, for some reason they've never improved the notification system.

 

[Urwumpe]

It seemed to be US military footage on TV.
It said that many other incidents have been reported.
It seems that finally US files are being declassified.

I would rather believe in the US Airforce publishing currently withheld information on Santa Claus. We all know that they know.

http://www.noradsanta.org/

 

[ar81]

I just can figure out why aliens would hate to contact Earthlings.
They would be sued for attacking a missile and this would be considered as an act of war.
Humans would try to invade an alien planet and enslave aliens, while humans call them "bugs" or "terrorists".
Then aliens would be forced to play a videogame called "world economy", we would pollute their world, they would die of human diseases, aliens will be used as guinea pigs for farmaceutics, and you would start to see poverty in alien planets.
When they try to issue a complaint, human rights will not cover them.

 

[Xantcha]

nah.. those hypothetical will just grab resources and slaughter humans. Ok, may be they will research some humans first... may be even leave a human zoo for scientific purposes.

Thats if they will recognize humans as something special at all. Aliens can see us just as minor deviation of planet biosphere. They can just not care and slaughter us even withut knowing it.

 

[ar81]

I see. Judging aliens by human standards seems like getting into the sea and meet animals in a coral reef and say "bring me before your leader".

 

[Bullethead]

Yesterday in the news apparently a UFO attacked a US missile.
Footage of the incident was shown.
What do we know about such situation?

This must not have happened any time recently, because I didn't see banner headlines announcing proof of aliens on this morning's paper, nor have I seen mention of this on any local or national news broadcast last night or today so far

I don't put much faith in UFO stories because the bulk of them make the aliens seem absurdly stupid. Of course, that's coming from a human POV, but I figure alien minds wouldn't be THAT different from our own. Sure, they'd have lots of detail differences, but in general we'd probably think a lot alike. It's convergent evolution. I'm sure aliens would have evolved in a Darwinian ecosystem, just as we did, and I'm sure they would have faced roughly the same challenges as we did in developing their civilization. This would have given them more than a few similarities to us, IMHO, in their outlook on life.

Why, then, do the supposed UFO aliens act as they do in all the stories? It makes no sense from any perspective. If they want info on human biology, they can get it (and much else) by hacking. Or they could just land near a university and ask for it. No need to abduct and anally probe some random bozo. If they don't want to "contaminate" Earthlings with knowledge of their existence, why cruise around at low altitude letting themselves be seen? OTOH, if they want to communicate, why don't they land in big cities and say "hi"?

Suppose we someday learn how to make interstellar flying saucers of our own, and find a planet somewhere with what appears to be a 21st century alien civilization on it. Would we act this way? No. Either we'd stay completely covert and just snoop out all their info, or we'd be completely overt, landing somewhere highly noticeable and establishing communications. We wouldn't fly around rural areas buzzing and abducting drunk alien rednecks.

 

[redrover]

Here's a link to one UFO incident in 1975 near a Montana Minuteman silo: http://www.nuforc.org/SACalert.html

 

[eveningsky339]

I just can figure out why aliens would hate to contact Earthlings.
They would be sued for attacking a missile and this would be considered as an act of war.
Humans would try to invade an alien planet and enslave aliens, while humans call them "bugs" or "terrorists".
Then aliens would be forced to play a videogame called "world economy", we would pollute their world, they would die of human diseases, aliens will be used as guinea pigs for farmaceutics, and you would start to see poverty in alien planets.
When they try to issue a complaint, human rights will not cover them.

I don't understand why you assume that humans are inherently evil whereas any intelligent alien race is inherently good. Maybe the aliens are worse than Hitler?

 

[ar81]

I don't understand why you assume that humans are inherently evil whereas any intelligent alien race is inherently good. Maybe the aliens are worse than Hitler?

Is Hitler a race?

I don't put much faith in UFO stories because the bulk of them make the aliens seem absurdly stupid.

I used to say the same. I saw one last year.

After being an orbinaut and seeing what I saw, which challenged all I have learned about physics and aerodynamics, I came to think in a different way.

I can't tell it was alien or not, but certainly it is not similar to any known man made object and its motion is unlike anything that seems possible. Any attempt to say where it came from would be speculation. There were neighbors looking at it, and by then I already knew as much I do now on physics. So I know I did not see a meteorological baloon or something similar.

It was a shiny metal ellipsoid, about 40 meters long, horizontal, rotating around vertical axis. It moved about 2 km along a straight line in a region of heavy ascending winds which pilots avoid, and then it was just gone, poof!!, as if you edited a tape, but I saw that with my very eyes, just like my neighbors.

As far as I know that object can't fly. It was not a balloon. With the heavy winds it would have had a more random trajectory. And given the distance it was during a clear day, I did not see any debris like a balloon being popped. And it was about the size of a small zepelin, about 40 meters long.

If you ask me about what I saw, I should answer "I do not know".

 

[eveningsky339]

Is Hitler a race?

Let's hope not.

I too have seen what I would consider to be a UFO. However, according to most ufologists, 95% of UFO sightings can be dismissed to natural causes. So I suppose there was a 95% chance that what I saw, however strange, was very terrestrial.

 

[Bullethead]

I used to say the same. I saw one last year.

A brave thing to say. I salute you . That's because the term "UFO" has lost its original meaning. Despite the "U" standing for "unidentified", most people use the term synonomously with "alien spacecraft", thereby conveying a positive, preconceived identification. Thus, it takes courage for skeptical, well-educated technophiles to admit to seeing something strange, because they don't want to be branded as nutjobs by their peers.

But I agree that there ARE strange things out there that rational observers are unable to identify. We need a new term for them, like "AA" for "airborne anomoly". That has a nice connotation of sobriety (even if undeserved in my case), in contrast to "UFO", which now has connotations of tinfoil hats and magic mushrooms

Anyway, your story is very interesting. Your description reminds me of some strange lights that are seen periodically in a couple of parts of the US. The things here seem to be some sort of electrostatic phenomena, kinda like the "sprites" and "jets" often seen on the tops of thunderstorms. Only with these things, there's no storm around, they are near the ground, it's broad daylight, etc. Some folks think they're associated with faults in the Earth's crust, but nobody really knows. Anyway, the float along all glowing and shiny, sometimes changing their sizes, shapes, and colors, but sometimes not. Then they usually shoot straight up and/or just disappear, like whatever was holding them in equilibrium suddenly failed.

 

[tblaxland]

If you ask me about what I saw, I should answer "I do not know".

Lenticular cloud?

Anyway, your story is very interesting. Your description reminds me of some strange lights that are seen periodically in a couple of parts of the US. The things here seem to be some sort of electrostatic phenomena, kinda like the "sprites" and "jets" often seen on the tops of thunderstorms. Only with these things, there's no storm around, they are near the ground, it's broad daylight, etc. Some folks think they're associated with faults in the Earth's crust, but nobody really knows. Anyway, the float along all glowing and shiny, sometimes changing their sizes, shapes, and colors, but sometimes not. Then they usually shoot straight up and/or just disappear, like whatever was holding them in equilibrium suddenly failed.

Ball lightning?

 

[Quick_Nick]

Missiles failing sounds like either actual malfunction, tests by other nations, tests by the US government to shoot down missiles, or misleading information by media.(maybe bad statistics on how often these fail)
The CNN discussion of the event can be found here:

I hope you get a good laugh at how dumb the media can be at 1:31 - 1:51. The interesting video is at 5:55 however I believe it is said that this is really supposed to be a simulation of what happened, because the original video was supposedly confiscated.

 

[Ghostrider]

Is Hitler a race?

More like a marathon.

 

[ar81]

Yesterday there was a program in one of those cable TV channels.
It was about secret videos on UFOs that were supposedly stolen from KGB.
Russian author of the book on that matter claimed that soviet mobs had stolen that and he bought them.

It claims that there was a UFO in Dalnagork and also that there was a so called project Isis in the 1960s where they found a corpse of an alien in one of the pyramids.

What do we know about it?

 

[Coolhand]

regarding the mummified alien in the pyramid, it's just a story... who knows, sounds pretty unbelievable to me. There's a video of soviet troops and KGB investigating a crashed ufo, i'm not sure if thats the one you're referring to, apparently it was a video of a training exercise for the soviet army which the mafia got hold of and sold to the press.

Paul Stonehill covers these events in his C2C interview... should always be taken with a pinch (or a very good big helping) of salt of course.

The problem is that none of these are verified officially, and even if they were, would the soviet/russian authorities have a reason to fake these things? perhaps it's good to scare other countries if they believe that they have access to incredibly advanced tech... y'know, don't screw with us or we'll **** you up with our flying saucers.

Same can be true for other countries of course.

Rendlesham forest incident is possibly the most compelling UFO encounter that is officially documented. Near RAF Bentwaters in the UK, the US Airforce had set up there and stored nukes on the base, it was a pretty big facility. Near christmas in 1980 a strange light was spotted moving around in the forest near the base. A team was sent out to investigate, assuming it was a downed A-10 or something. What they found was a small UFO flying amid the trees. It came back a couple of nights later and the deputy base commander, Colonel Charles Holt, took a team out to de-bunk it. They found the same thing, which had apparently landed in the forest. Holt came close enough to touch the craft, made drawings of it and heiroglyphs on the side. pictures were taken but these went 'missing' after the were sent to be developed. It's a really interesting case and is apparently officially documented... The ufo was also seen apparently sniffing around 'hot row' were the nukes were stored.

Either this is a real incident, mass hysteria among the military personnel or an institutionalised hoax. It's certainly bizarre and a very interesting story.

 

[GregBurch]

Either this is a real incident, mass hysteria among the military personnel or an institutionalised hoax. It's certainly bizarre and a very interesting story.

http://www.ianridpath.com/ufo/rendlesham.htm

GB