Updates Boeing's CST-100 Starliner

So, this would be the first failed manned test flight. At least they don't have to leave the vehicle on parachutes before landing, like Gagarin...

Good that this was a flight to the ISS. Maybe they could load Starliner with trash and let it burn up in the atmosphere, so that the capsule still would be useful for something after docking 🤷‍♂️
 
Maybe they could load Starliner with trash and let it burn up in the atmosphere, so that the capsule still would be useful for something after docking 🤷‍♂️
The only problem with that solution though is the capsule is perfectly fine.... what's plaguing Starliner is the service module itself
 
The only problem with that solution though is the capsule is perfectly fine.... what's plaguing Starliner is the service module itself

Well, unless they want to repair it in space (which could be a nice astronautical experiment), they will have to dispose it anyway.
 
If Crew-9 becomes the makeshift "rescue" mission for the Starliner CFT crew, then Crew-9 could only launch two astronauts to the station (unless SpaceX and NASA restored Crew Dragon's original crew capacity of seven, which I don't see happening anytime soon)
 
Yeah, media these days, you know.... 🤦‍♂️
"Rescue" just sells better than a plain "return", especially regarding a topic that usually bores the shit out of most people.

Journalism turned into a giant clickbait campaign by editors and random authors, since the internet became the basic source of information for many people. That's why I always prefer and recommend original sources; or at least sources from verifiable insiders.

Yeah, I miss the good old times when journalism was a profession and not a waste product of news aggregators.
Yeah. There is also a huge difference, for example, when watching a modern documentary or stuff that was produced in the 60s or 70s. The narrator back then always was calm and at least sounded like he actually had a clue, explaining and presenting stuff almost like a professional. It seems to me that what you get today is made by ADHD patients that present a very fast picture sequence with a very nervous cinematography and superficial Wikipedia knowledge by a dramatic sounding narrator, which almost triggers an epileptic shock while watching. The least I get is a headache.

On news websites it's the headlines and the content which is simply crap in most cases, depending on the website.

In the old days journalism was actually about i n f o r m a t i o n rather than about dramatic eye candy pictures and scenes or stupid headlines.

 
Yeah. There is also a huge difference, for example, when watching a modern documentary or stuff that was produced in the 60s or 70s. The narrator back then always was calm and at least sounded like he actually had a clue, explaining and presenting stuff almost like a professional. It seems to me that what you get today is made by ADHD patients that present a very fast picture sequence with a very nervous cinematography and superficial Wikipedia knowledge by a dramatic sounding narrator, which almost triggers an epileptic shock while watching. The least I get is a headache.

On news websites it's the headlines and the content which is simply crap in most cases, depending on the website.

In the old days journalism was actually about i n f o r m a t i o n rather than about dramatic eye candy pictures and scenes or stupid headlines.

I will not celebrate the "good" old days to much, because the mechanisms that annoy us today already applied there. Just remember that a certain highly celebrated middle-east reporter rarely visited the middle-east and produced his TV broadcast from "onboard a ship on the contested Suez canal" inside the basement of the Lerchenberg TV station for getting attention and fame. Some people still cite his books, despite them being mostly fantasy. His best buddy was still sitting in talk shows around 2015 and lecture Germans about the evil primitive nature of Muslims, despite him actually having invented most of it and never actually researched anything in place.

On the other side, his former "apprentice" was vilified for interviewing Saddam Hussein in Bagdad (in fact, he was the only western journalist that got the statement from Hussein, that he will not retreat from Kuwait) and that actually reporting from the place is not objective enough...

The difference is: Today with the internet, any crazy dude in the basement can have his own media empire. He does no longer rely on investors and institutions to give him the audience, either by pleasing them with bootlicking or by simply doing a great trustful job to gain the trust of the Audience. And we act like we don't know it.
 
I will not celebrate the "good" old days to much, because the mechanisms that annoy us today already applied there. Just remember that a certain highly celebrated middle-east reporter rarely visited the middle-east and produced his TV broadcast from "onboard a ship on the contested Suez canal" inside the basement of the Lerchenberg TV station for getting attention and fame. Some people still cite his books, despite them being mostly fantasy. His best buddy was still sitting in talk shows around 2015 and lecture Germans about the evil primitive nature of Muslims, despite him actually having invented most of it and never actually researched anything in place.

On the other side, his former "apprentice" was vilified for interviewing Saddam Hussein in Bagdad (in fact, he was the only western journalist that got the statement from Hussein, that he will not retreat from Kuwait) and that actually reporting from the place is not objective enough...

The difference is: Today with the internet, any crazy dude in the basement can have his own media empire. He does no longer rely on investors and institutions to give him the audience, either by pleasing them with bootlicking or by simply doing a great trustful job to gain the trust of the Audience. And we act like we don't know it.
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It's not really that I "celebrate" the good old days. It's more like certain stuff that knocks my socks off is "accidentally" from the past 🤷‍♂️ Present stuff mostly just bores me or even bothers me. But it's not because it's from the present. It's because it is simply boring. Especially TV, music, radio, social media etc.; and also partially human space flight in its current state. Interestingly this doesn't include cars, clothes or computers for example. I love modern cars and the latest computer hardware for example. And you can really bore the shit out of me when you show me photos of old clothes or old cars (actually every car pre-2015s) 🥱 Same applies to aeroplanes. I mostly prefer modern stuff. And I actually misuse smart phones. Although people can call me, I don't actively use it as a phone at all. It's just a nice, handy video/photo camera with access to the world wide web in my case. A simple cell phone did never catch my attention.

Not always eating meat is called being a "flexitarian" these days. I am equal in terms of being a "back number". I'm a "flexi number" I guess 😜


You are probably right. The mechanisms that annoy us today already applied in the old days. But the capabilities were limited. Like you said, today the internet gives every nobody the capabilities to be someone. That's why I boycott social media completely. I don't even use "X". I read stuff from X though, when someone posts it here in the OF as long as it is related to an interesting topic.

On the other hand, there are very nice "homemade" space flight documentaries by Youtubers, way better and more educational than stuff from journalists on TV.

PS: I have no clue who that "highly celebrated middle-east reporter" is :unsure: But it's likely because I'm not that much a fan of the Middle-East :p
 
On the other hand, there are very nice "homemade" space flight documentaries by Youtubers, way better and more educational than stuff from journalists on TV.

I wouldn't be so hard on them. There actually are good documentaries on TV, even the SpaceX advertisement films on Netflix aren't actually that badly made.

I agree, that the Youtubers often dive way deeper into the subject and often present the manner in their format more complete as others.

But its still not really what I would consider: Easy to learn. That would be achieved, if you have something interactive, with your choice how fast you want to learn, what details you like to know and still be aware which other stories might be there.

PS: I have no clue who that "highly celebrated middle-east reporter" is :unsure: But it's likely because I'm not that much a fan of the Middle-East :p

The world is too large to really see every place. But it doesn't matter to at least have some openmindedness. Even if its just about their food. ;)

About the people I mean, in the order of appearance:

A https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerhard_Konzelmann

B https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Scholl-Latour

C https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulrich_Kienzle
 
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The short test-flight that might turn into an ISS expedition 🤯:
Given that Suni and Butch love their jobs, I don't think it's a dramatic news for them. It likely might be the last mission of their career anyway, due to their ages I guess, so I imagine they actually enjoy their bonus stay on the ISS already now. And it's not that they were not aware of the possibility to become "stranded" on the ISS.

In any case, this test flight is one for the books 😂 And it really proves the point of expanding commercial space flight: redundancy. Never put all your eggs in one basket.
 
I didn't know Konzelmann at all 👀 As for the other two guys, yeah, my impression always was that they were a little bit overbearing and arrogant, like they knew it all. As if the Arabic world would give a god damn thing about two old reporter dudes from Germany. But it's OT anyway 😇
 
I didn't know Konzelmann at all 👀 As for the other two guys, yeah, my impression always was that they were a little bit overbearing and arrogant, like they knew it all. As if the Arabic world would give a god damn thing about two old reporter dudes from Germany. But it's OT anyway 😇

Well, Kienzle was clearly one of the better ones, he actually did the job seriously and spoke arabian fluent, he was actually vice president of the German-Arabian society.
 
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