Idea Shuttle Fleet recompile for Orbiter 2016

[MarkWatney2015]

If you want I an add them to the zip? Will they override what I have?

It's all yours my friend, though I dont think something would be overwritten (unless if it have same names or you want to overwrite it)

How should the hi def meshes be mentioned. If I remember the hi def replace the standard meshes.

In my installation, I noticed that the HD meshes aren't compatible with the standard ones, so what I did is I "repaint" the standard mesh with HD textures

(Slwt_1.msh):

TEXTURES 1
ET-125_exterior_launch.dds

(Slwt_burnt.msh):

TEXTURES 1
ET-125_exterior_burnt.dds

also should all the scn have GNC_RUN 1? It seems most are MEt-30

MET-30 is the default timer because it follows the first parameter set in the guidance file (the Orbit command)

In Mir/Hubble/ISS missions, the METs are set to T-540 sec (9 min) because I based it on the original scenarios found on Thorton's [ame=https://www.orbithangar.com/searchid.php?ID=3737]ISSR[/ame] addon, and in my opinion it makes sure that the shuttle would rendezvous with the station/satellite in the shortest time possible

In addition, the GNC_RUN 1 command is needed because I set the timers on a way that when it hits T-0, the shuttle lifts off according to the historical date/time the mission started. (For historical missions only, excluding fictional ones)

 

[pappy2]

It's all yours my friend, though I dont think something would be overwritten (unless if it have same names or you want to overwrite it)



In my installation, I noticed that the HD meshes aren't compatible with the standard ones, so what I did is I "repaint" the standard mesh with HD textures

(Slwt_1.msh):

TEXTURES 1
ET-125_exterior_launch.dds

(Slwt_burnt.msh):

TEXTURES 1
ET-125_exterior_burnt.dds

MET-30 is the default timer because it follows the first parameter set in the guidance file (the Orbit command)

In Mir/Hubble/ISS missions, the METs are set to T-540 sec (9 min) because I based it on the original scenarios found on Thorton's ISSR addon, and in my opinion it makes sure that the shuttle would rendezvous with the station/satellite in the shortest time possible

In addition, the GNC_RUN 1 command is needed because I set the timers on a way that when it hits T-0, the shuttle lifts off according to the historical date/time the mission started. (For historical missions only, excluding fictional ones)

Good morning all,
in the chrono do not forget that in the scenarios of PAD39-A and B HD there is the time of withdrawal of the gangway of the crew and the filling arm of ET.

SUPER work guys

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Hello everyone,
the shuttle had an order that worked on Orbiter 2010:
"CTRL" + "J" = Open / close the fuel / external tank hatches.
do you think you can restore it ?

 

[gattispilot]

Good morning all,
in the chrono do not forget that in the scenarios of PAD39-A and B HD there is the time of withdrawal of the gangway of the crew and the filling arm of ET.

SUPER work guys

---------- Post added at 08:24 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:36 PM ----------

Hello everyone,
the shuttle had an order that worked on Orbiter 2010:
"CTRL" + "J" = Open / close the fuel / external tank hatches.
do you think you can restore it ?

So on the CTRL J are the hatches on the orbiter or ET. If on the Orbiter and part of the mesh yes can be done

Are these them?

if so. I can animate them open at 60 degrees? But are them open on launch?


I may leave the HD pads as is except add the part for burnt tank

 

[PhantomCruiser]

Those umbilical doors were open on launch. Part of my own "checklist" when I used Shuttle Fleet was to close them shortly after attaining orbit.

 

[Donamy]

So on the CTRL J are the hatches on the orbiter or ET. If on the Orbiter and part of the mesh yes can be done

Are these them?

if so. I can animate them open at 60 degrees? But are them open on launch?


I may leave the HD pads as is except add the part for burnt tank

You want them open at 180 degs, inward, while attached to the tank.

 

[pappy2]

Good morning all,

In fact the hatches are the closing hatches under the Shuttle of the connection system of the pipes of the external tank (ET) they are opened towards the inside of 180 ° and are closed after the jettisoning of the tank.

 

[gattispilot]

Like this:

I guess one can check visually if they are open or not?

I will add a line to the launch scn for this.

 

[pappy2]

EXTRAORDINARY
Even more towards reality !!
THANKS AGAIN

 

[gattispilot]

Will with that I need to redo the tank meshes. As on my the fuel lines don't extend into the open area.

---------- Post added 09-15-19 at 08:25 AM ---------- Previous post was 09-14-19 at 12:29 PM ----------

latest zip:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=195O2HE0k1KB_vQLgQHi1ecWHQos7H17k

Added the ctrl J for external fuel hatches. The hi def et and srb may needs some work as far as scns.

Hopefully got everything. Reorganized the scn. Added a UARS texture folder to ease install

So I installed this first and added the sf,.... and skiped files already there.

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Do we have some good images of the IRIS and LAGEOS Apogee Stage (LAS).
I made some crude meshes:

textured the ships

 

[MarkWatney2015]

Do we have some good images of the IRIS and LAGEOS Apogee Stage (LAS)?

Found a higher definition image from spacefacts.de

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Also, in the same website, LAGEOS-2 is painted silver, rather than gold as seen in LAGEOS-1

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks

so a couple of images of parts of the cargo bay

So not sure what this structure is?

Found more documents:
https://commons.erau.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?referer=https://www.google.com/&httpsredir=1&article=3286&context=space-congress-proceedings

so do we want the CTA CANEXx-2

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:STS-52_CANEX-2_experiment.jpg

 

[MarkWatney2015]

so do we want the CTA CANEXx-2

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:STS-52_CANEX-2_experiment.jpg

So that's the purpose of the RMS in that mission
Looks like a curiously interesting payload after all

 

[gattispilot]

Yes, I can find any drawings. In the press kit it mentioned.:

The Space Vision System uses a Shuttle TV camera to monitor a pattern of target dots of known spacing
arranged on an object to be tracked.

So I guess I can make a black vessel with white dots for the rms to get.

That might be the black object on the left of the cargo bay?

For the CANEX-2 experiments, target dots have been placed on the Canadian Target Assembly (CTA), a
small satellite carried in the Space Shuttle's cargo bay. During the flight, a mission specialist will use the
arm to deploy the CTA and take it through a series of maneuvers using the information displayed by the
SVS.

 

[Marg]

Hm, STS-52 featured PAM-D type of cradles in payload bay after a long hiatus... I always
I have a feeling that PAM-D cradles are not up to date, I mean from Gazza's time (when PC's were weaker) they look a bit flat, "sterile". In real photos it can be seen that, for example, front of these cradles is uneven, some internal frame is "sticking through". In STS-51D photos it is obvious...

And Spacelab mesh too are a bit too simple...

As these meshes were used on many missions, maybe...
well... just thought... nevermind.

 

[pappy2]

latest zip:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=195O2HE0k1KB_vQLgQHi1ecWHQos7H17k

Added the ctrl J for external fuel hatches. The hi def et and srb may needs some work as far as scns.

Hopefully got everything. Reorganized the scn. Added a UARS texture folder to ease install

So I installed this first and added the sf,.... and skiped files already there.

Hello "gattispilot"
I tested your last file sts2016.5.zip

I think there was a bad backup of the corrected files because I noticed that
several scenarios for which we had solved problems still have the same
problems !
I tested all the scenarios and here is the result.

Scenarios with problems:

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

(018) STS51-G Discovery /// Only SBS-4 and PAM-1 are visible.
Lack ASE-DOOR-MORELOS as well as the other two satellites and their PAM.
Maybe resume with the scenario STS51-G-on Orbit which is in the repertoire
"STS Historical Scenarios" and that does not work.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Chandra-X

1-Chandra-X launch (STS-93) /// I have a CTD:

============================ ERROR: ==================== =======
Challenger
[Vessel :: OpenConfigFile | . \ Vessel.cpp | 243]
================================================== =============

The problem must come from the file (Space-Shuttle_STS-93Bnew)

[PAYLOAD_1]
MeshName = "2016spaceshuttle \ Challenger \ ColumbiaORG2016F"

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Columbia Scenarios

Launch SWT SRB and Launch SWTW SRB /// I have a CTD for both scenarios:

============================ ERROR: ==================== =======
Shuttle2016A
[Vessel :: OpenConfigFile | . \ Vessel.cpp | 243]
================================================== =============

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Discovery Scenarios

Discovery (MPLM) Launch /// The shuttle is not centered on the launch pad.

Discovery (original) Launch /// The shuttle is not centered on the launch pad.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Endeavor Scenarios

Endeavor (original) Launch /// The shuttle is not centered on the launch pad.

Endeavor Launch /// The shuttle is not centered on the launch pad.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Ficional Scenario

Constellation Launch /// I have a CTD:

============================ ERROR: ==================== =======
STATUS Landed Earth
[Vessel :: OpenConfigFile | . \ Vessel.cpp | 243]
================================================== =============

Constitution at the ISS /// LEONARDO is fixed on the tail of the Shuttle.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

HST_ex

1 STS-31 HST Launch /// The Shuttle is too low on the firing point.
HST is not centered in the hold of the Shuttle

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS Historical Scenarios

STS51-G /// The satelite guard doors do not work (K).
SPARTAN-1 is out of place in the cargo hold.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS-109

STS-109 RNDZ scenario /// HST not the high definition version. The hold is empty.

STS-109 launch scenario /// The cargo hold is empty.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS-4

STS-4HI-DEF /// Aunune textures neither Shuttle, nor ET, nor payloads.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS-48

STS-48 LAUNCH /// No Guidance file.

STS48_UARS /// I have a CTD.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS-49

STS-49 LAUNCH OF INTESAT6NEW.2 /// I have a CTD.

============================ ERROR: ==================== =======
Shuttle2016BEVA
[Vessel :: OpenConfigFile | . \ Vessel.cpp | 243]
================================================== =============

STS-49 LAUNCH /// The satellite is the objects are present in the hold but without texture.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

STS-61C

STS61-C ORBIT /// The satellite is present but the others the objects in the hold
not their visible textures.

STS61-C LAUNCH /// The satellite is present but the others the objects in the hold
not their visible textures.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Sunnyvale

Kh-12

STS-62D Approching KH12 rendezvous /// No cockpit in the Shuttle.
the loads of the cargo hold are fixed outside the Shuttle.

STS-62D Launch VAFB /// the loads of the hold are fixed outside the Shuttle.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The Crosse

LAUNCH VAFB /// Lacrosse is attached to the outside of the Shuttle.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

 

[gattispilot]

It is like they say the devil is in the details

So fixed some. Other than the Intelsat6 textures. When you run 61c what does the log show?

Also can you post what the hst position should be?

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This should fix the majority:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=16WxTzHcnajS6eQZNyAJJ_bHZplLUJR4O

On the missing textures can you post the log.

I get a ctd on the sts 48 with UARS also?

What should be in the hold of sts 109?

Fictional sts 51g Weird the telestar ase doors do not show up on the scn window so I can press K. the other 2 do

I wonder if a sc3/4 issue in the scn?


STS-4HI-DEF this one uses the hi-def textures/meshes not sure what we do about it.



One thing that is odd. Is the attachment point values seem to be different. I ran some scn in my "old" orbiter and in the vanilla visually the point are different. That is why the cargo is off. It seems off by 3

 

[Star Voyager]

If I remember correctly, USMP (STS-52, 62, 75, 87) was sort of like a repackaged MSL, similar to the ones flown on STS-7 and 61C (but with an additional MPESS). Also, here's a great document on SM3B (109). Page 23 (2-4) will be of particular interest.

 

[MarkWatney2015]

Also, here's a great document on SM3B (109). Page 23 (2-4) will be of particular interest.

...Not to mention, SM4 (STS-125)

That is if it is OK for BrianJ to expand his HST_EX addon to include all other servicing missions

 

[gattispilot]

Thanks.
on these:
HST_ex

1 STS-31 HST Launch /// The Shuttle is too low on the firing point.
HST is not centered in the hold of the Shuttle

The height was good it was a bit off. So I move the shuttle closer to the edge so the tail doesn't hit the fence.
but this:
HST is not centered in the hold of the Shuttle

https://www.orbiter-forum.com/showthread.php?p=593410&postcount=414
you wanted the HSt moved more forward

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So this zip fixes the uars and shuttle position on sts 31. I needed to install spacecraft 4 to get the ase door to work

http://francophone.dansteph.com/?page=addon&id=202&language=english

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1V4bx00a57X2fxPRb83McUXvVdmbB6Sqd

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...Not to mention, SM4 (STS-125)

That is if it is OK for BrianJ to expand his HST_EX addon to include all other servicing missions

Yes. I noticed on their site they don't have the cargo model any more.
I asked them about it.

I think the big zip and 2 fixes should fix what we have NOW. Not sure if good enough to release and start on more scenarios?

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Oh the cardboard model is sts 125:
http://www.axmpaperspacescalemodels.com/old/files/payloads/125pyld.pdf

 

[Donamy]

I already did an STS-125.