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One of their greatest move. If it succeeds, the potential of C# and C++/CLI will be tremendous. If they also port XAML for other platforms, Microsoft will rule again. Their technology is awesome, but the platform is too limited. Spending time developping for a few Windows Phone users is useless, but their tools are a hundred times more efficient than anything else (Eclipse Android, I'm looking at you !)
 
One of their greatest move. If it succeeds, the potential of C# and C++/CLI will be tremendous. If they also port XAML for other platforms, Microsoft will rule again. Their technology is awesome, but the platform is too limited. Spending time developping for a few Windows Phone users is useless, but their tools are a hundred times more efficient than anything else (Eclipse Android, I'm looking at you !)

That cross-platform stuff is what Xamarin does, Microsofts partner in crime regarding the modular .NET that will be released as OSS.

Still, I don't think that .NET will really have that large potential. It is the standard programming environment of a operating system, that is suffering from the desktop computing crisis. Unless it really manages to become a better Java 8 (with FX8), it will fail. You really notice very often that .NETs environment isn't as mature as many .NET fans or Microsoft pretend. (C# and .NET have now effectively taken the place that C++ and MFC once had - not more)
 
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That cross-platform stuff is what Xamarin does, Microsofts partner in crime regarding the modular .NET that will be released as OSS.

Still, I don't think that .NET will really have that large potential. It is the standard programming environment of a operating system, that is suffering from the desktop computing crisis. Unless it really manages to become a better Java 8 (with FX8), it will fail. You really notice very often that .NETs environment isn't as mature as many .NET fans or Microsoft pretend. (C# and .NET have now effectively taken the place that C++ and MFC once had - not more)

Xamarin is exactly what I hope will die. With an open-source .NET, a free and open-source Xamarin will probably emerge (Microsoft could push it, that would be great), so we can use Microsoft tools and write software for Android, Windows Phone and iOS (if Apple remove their countless limitations).

I don't want to enter in a C# vs. Java war (I think plenty of arguments are on the Internet), both languages have their strenghts and weaknesses. However, I wouldn't say that C# is immature. With the 5.0 version, it has alsmost everything Java offers, plus super easy asynchronous calls. No more JavaFX worker thread and lambda hell.

And honestly, I think that XAML is more mature than JavaFX, especially with the tooling for it.
 
And honestly, I think that XAML is more mature than JavaFX, especially with the tooling for it.

I am not sure there. One year ago, I would have agreed with you. Now, after also observing the problems that XAML veterans encounter with obscure event handling and data binding issues, I think that JavaFX 2.1 already did the important things right and Java FX 8 added the fun stuff that XAML had for boasting.

Also, I have never seen a better GUI designer than Scenebuilder yet. Even the Qt Designer had more quirks.
 
Also, I have never seen a better GUI designer than Scenebuilder yet. Even the Qt Designer had more quirks.

Are you using the 2.0 version or the 1.1 of Scenebuilder ? I couldn't install the 2.0 version, the installation failed everytime, even with the latest Java installation. Java would just do nothing, silently eating my CPU in the background.

The 1.1 version is not very powerful, very basic in my opinion. I don't know about the 2.0 however.
 
Are you using the 2.0 version or the 1.1 of Scenebuilder ? I couldn't install the 2.0 version, the installation failed everytime, even with the latest Java installation. Java would just do nothing, silently eating my CPU in the background.

The 1.1 version is not very powerful, very basic in my opinion. I don't know about the 2.0 however.

2.0 here, all fine. I remember seeing the 1.1 version once...when JavaFX was still in its infancy.
 
2.0 here, all fine. I remember seeing the 1.1 version once...when JavaFX was still in its infancy.

I'll give it another try. I had a Java update recently, maybe it fixed the issue.

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The installation went fine this time. They probably fixed something. Let's see this beauty.

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Yeah, that's a mature product. I had some trouble finding where to set the controller class, but the rest is quite impressive compared to the 1.1. Still, I'm big fan of Visual Studio :lol:
 
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Still, I don't think that .NET will really have that large potential. It is the standard programming environment of a operating system, that is suffering from the desktop computing crisis. Unless it really manages to become a better Java 8 (with FX8), it will fail. You really notice very often that .NETs environment isn't as mature as many .NET fans or Microsoft pretend. (C# and .NET have now effectively taken the place that C++ and MFC once had - not more)

What exactly is the desktop computing crisis?
 
This is the idea for one but the batteries are kinda a problem:

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CNN described it as "an electric rover weighing as much as a small car". Not sure what that car thingy is but I'm pretty sure it's some fad with the youth.
 
Cool imagery. I wonder why we haven't sent a probe to Earth yet.

Yes, I know, a manned expedition may be risky but what about a small rover? Feasible?

But... :uhh:

There is a picture of Earth from a probe in that series of photos. It was named in honour of "Mike Malaska", whoever that was. It looks a bit of a liquid planet; seems the "rover the size of a car" would need floatation gear, too.

PS: This is reminding me of that old game NOMAD!
 
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