Current VSA activity

[fireballs619]

WE HAVE IGNITION!

Artemis now has a website (it's sponsored by Google Sites)! :banana:

If only it were that easy...

Most free hosting sites are not sufficient for VSAs. Also, a link to the site would greatly increase publicity.

 

[Polaris]

Here's the link (the site is still a WIP):

https://sites.google.com/site/artemisspaceagency/

 

[Hielor]

AGREED! You really can't expect most people to have those as one. Maybe if it is like a blackboard classroom where you do virtual classes and things, but I don't agree with your requirements.

Well, I wouldn't be surprised if most pilots also have a bachelor's (don't know if there's statistics on that sort of thing), but requirements such as these are pretty silly given that I imagine the majority of people interested in VAs (and VSAs) are interested because they don't have a pilot's license IRL. Plus, requiring an IRL pilot's license cuts out something like 99% of the Orbiter community.

Limiting it to people with at least a bachelor's degree excludes two groups of people who have a lot of free time and can often contribute greatly to a VA or VSA: high school and college students.

VAs (and VSAs especially) already have serious trouble getting a solid, reliable base of members, and you're certainly not helping things by adding arbitrary limits on top of that.

For the record, I meet your requirements, but I'm not interested in joining a VSA...and if I were looking to join a VSA, I wouldn't want to join one that so severely limits its own member base (and thus, chances at success).

Here's the link (the site is still a WIP):

https://sites.google.com/site/artemisspaceagency/

Nice prefabricated site you've got there. I especially like this part:

WELCOME TO
(ORGANIZATION NAME)
Your Tagline Goes Here

 

[Polaris]

I found a logo. Check out the site now, would you kindly?

By the way, here are the revised conditions to enter New Horizons to become a pilot for Artemis:


Have at least a high school degree

Have some experience flying high-speed jets and a pilot's license (will accept a student or sports license now.)

Be over the age of 18

Be in good health, both physically and psychologically

 

[Woo482]

Wouldn't the logo look better without a white background? e.g. something more like this:

It's not the best edit ever, but I think you get the idea :thumbup:
edit: you also seem to still have a lot of the example content from the template still there, wouldn't it have been a good idea to remove that before you made the website public?

 

[Shadow Addict]

Have at least a Bachelor's Degree

Have a pilot's license (either a private pilot's license or a commercial pilot's license)

Seriously, that's ridiculous. I love Orbiter and consider myself pretty decent at flying in it, and I'm a 15 year old sophomore who meets neither of those requirements. I mean if you don't want me in your VSA, then I sure as hell don't wanna be in it, but it's still pretty unfair to exclude, y'know, the vast majority of the Orbiter community.

EDIT: Also, just a tip: you might wanna consider getting rid of all the preposted "lorem ipsum"s that are all over that website.

 

[Polaris]

Okay, here are the revised entry requirements:

Be an Orbinaut



In case you were wondering, the previous requirements never did apply. They were just to give a sense of realism. Being an Orbinaut is the only requirement, so anyone on the forum who wants to sign up, there are no barriers.

 

[fireballs619]

Okay, here are the revised entry requirements:

Be an Orbinaut



In case you were wondering, the previous requirements never did apply. They were just to give a sense of realism. Being an Orbinaut is the only requirement, so anyone on the forum who wants to sign up, there are no barriers.

Again, that is not a good requirement. Personally, I would not let anyone near a delta-glider until they have definitively proven that they are capable of flying. Thats the purpose of a training program-but what will this program be specifically? How will you check if they have passed it? You seriously must think everything through before you start up a vsa. If it was this easy, so many would not have failed.

 

[Polaris]

New requirements:


Must have some experience flying a spacecraft (all applicants must submit a video of the flight)

Be an Orbinaut



To pass the training program, all applicants must have:

Deorbited a crew and spacecraft with success

Complete certain objectives while in orbit

Have an understanding of spacecraft mechanics

Perform a successful EVA

Complete flight training

Dock with a space station

 

[Shadow Addict]

Pass the simulator

... what?

 

[Woo482]

I guess you're going to start simulating Orbiter in a Simulator or something? :lol: the new logo looks much better by the way :thumbup: having a big block of white looks pretty ugly against a dark background

 

[Polaris]

The simulator requirement was a joke. Anyways, Artemis has gained its first contract: from Israel. Here are all the details:


Due to the threat of Iran's nukes, Israel has asked Artemis Space Agency to install a satellite defense system. This is the first major contract Artemis has received, so we had better do a good job.

 

[Hielor]

In case you were wondering, the previous requirements never did apply. They were just to give a sense of realism. Being an Orbinaut is the only requirement, so anyone on the forum who wants to sign up, there are no barriers.

I suspected that at some point, but that didn't really make your requirements any less absurd--if they were intended to be a "role-playing" sort of thing, they should've been a whole lot closer to NASA's requirements for pilot astronauts. You certainly wouldn't be able to hire any private pilots (much less student or sport pilots) into piloting positions.

 

[Polaris]

Just to get everything straight, all contracts this agency has received or may receive are entirely fictious and hold no truth whatsoever. Artemis has not been asked to install a space-based defense system for any nation.

By the way, here are the new fictious requirements for entry into New Horizons:


1. Have served in the US Air Force, the US Navy Air Force, or the US Army Air Force

2. Be an Orbinaut (this is the only real requirement)

3. Be over the age of 18

4. Have a Bachelor's Degree or higher

5. Have a passport

6. Have a spotless criminal record (or if not, minor civil offenses such as violating traffic laws)

 

[garyw]

1. Have served in the US Air Force, the US Navy Air Force, or the US Army Air Force

So no scientist astronaunts or regular millitary types?

 

[Hielor]

1. Have served in the US Air Force, the US Navy Air Force, or the US Army Air Force

Given that the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Army_Air_Forces"]US Army Air Force[/ame] ceased to exist in 1947, I suspect that anyone who served in it will be upwards of eighty by now. And, I'm still confused--are you still only looking for pilots? If so, what happened to the pilot requirements?

3. Be over the age of 18

Well, that's kind of covered by #1...

 

[Polaris]

Hielor, I had no idea that the USAAF was disbanded. Those who used to serve in it will be regulated to ordinance or other ground-based jobs, since spaceflight might be too much for those geriatric astronauts (no offense intended). As for scientist astronauts, Artemis does not have much need for them at the moment, but the New Horizons training program does have a science subprogram right now. Here are the fictional requirements:

1. Have science as your major subject in college

2. Be over 18

3. Have a Master's degree or Ph.D

Personally, I'm suprised no eyebrows are being raised over the contract Artemis just received.

By the way, ordinary military types will be needed for security and the like. They aren't required to go through the training program, but they have a choice to go through New Horizons. Military pilots are required to go through New Horizons, though.

 

[garyw]

Personally, I'm suprised no eyebrows are being raised over the contract Artemis just received.

I did wonder why a Government would be giving a contract to an agency with a heavy US bias and why they would give a contract to an agency that has zero successful launches to their name.

The various Foreign ministers and public spokesmen must be having something of an interesting time handling the politcal fall out of such a contract.

 

[Hielor]

Hielor, I had no idea that the USAAF was disbanded. Those who used to serve in it will be regulated to ordinance or other ground-based jobs, since spaceflight might be too much for those geriatric astronauts (no offense intended).

Somehow I don't think you'll be getting many 80-year-olds applying to your program.

 

[Polaris]

No one's perfect- I tried to bill it to ISA, and Artemis got the contract. I think it's because many Artemis employees are pro-Israel. Besides, the contract is under a grace period. If we complete one launch within the month, we get the job. If not, the ISA gets it.


UPDATE:

Artemis has just completed an ummanned launch. It was successful.