Current VSA activity

[DanM]

What has the Virtual Space Agency activity been like recently? I've been looking for ones to join. I was part of VNASA for a while (I got kicked out, I doubt they'd let me back in ). Are they still active? I know that SimNASA recently shut down. If I start one, is anyone interested in joining?

 

[MJR]

What has the Virtual Space Agency activity been like recently? I've been looking for ones to join. I was part of VNASA for a while (I got kicked out, I doubt they'd let me back in ). Are they still active? I know that SimNASA recently shut down. If I start one, is anyone interested in joining?

To tell you the truth not many people are interested with VSAs at the moment because the inability to run them.

 

[DanM]

I'm guessing in part due to the lack of multiplayer capability?

 

[Shadow Addict]

I'm guessing in part due to the lack of multiplayer capability?

No, I'd say it's mainly cause they're suck up massive amounts of time if they're to be managed properly, and nobody has had that kind of time.

 

[DanM]

No, I'd say it's mainly cause they're suck up massive amounts of time if they're to be managed properly, and nobody has had that kind of time.

Very good point.

 

[fireballs619]

Gah, shadow addict beat me to the response! I was recently making one, but canceled due to large amounts of time investment. Unless there was a reliable and easy way for missions to be reported, it's not happening anytime soon. I know for a fact that many people would join one if you started one, but it would have to be real. Not just a social group with a few threads going on. If you are interested in making one, I documented the development process in my in my blogs, which you can view here.

 

[Polaris]

I have an idea for a VSA.

ARTEMIS SPACE AGENCY.

Artemis is essentially a massive conglomerate space agency whose competitors include Virgin Galactic, Transworld Express, SpaceTech, Oil Creek Astronautix, and Altea, along with NASA, JAXA, and ESA. If anyone thinks this will be fun, I'm willing to accept input.

 

[fireballs619]

I have an idea for a VSA.

ARTEMIS SPACE AGENCY.

Artemis is essentially a massive conglomerate space agency whose competitors include Virgin Galactic, Transworld Express, SpaceTech, Oil Creek Astronautix, and Altea, along with NASA, JAXA, and ESA. If anyone thinks this will be fun, I'm willing to accept input.

I strongly suggest that you think this through before starting anything. Will you be able to commit time to planning programs, spend money on web hosting, manage operations? Don't get in over your head, and, right now, you are.

 

[Shadow Addict]

I have an idea for a VSA.

ARTEMIS SPACE AGENCY.

Artemis is essentially a massive conglomerate space agency whose competitors include Virgin Galactic, Transworld Express, SpaceTech, Oil Creek Astronautix, and Altea, along with NASA, JAXA, and ESA. If anyone thinks this will be fun, I'm willing to accept input.

Hate to say it, but this is barely an idea. You've come up with a name and a bit of background info. As we recently discovered with VASO, VSAs can fail even if they have a pretty well-defined structure. You should probably put some more thought into this before pitching it.

 

[garyw]

I have an idea for a VSA.

You and many others. An idea does not make a VSA.

An idea, a list of projects, a website, a reporting system, a logo and many other things. You must expect to spend at least three months setting up a VSA before you can even think about making it public. After that, it's about one day a week running it.

If you can't commit to this amount of time then it will fail.

I have my own VSA which you can see linked in my signature.

 

[DanM]

Are those missions that have been going on around the forum (OFMM, OFSS) similar to VSAs in any way? They kinda remind me of them. Since I just got back into orbiter, I'm still sorta a noob on this forum.

 

[garyw]

Depends on what your view of a VSA is.

They are operations that present pilots with a mission.

 

[Polaris]

Artemis is primarily a "boost-your-payload to orbit" company, with a focus on expendable rockets as opposed to spaceplanes, although Artemis maintains a fleet of XR5 Vanguards (cargo transports) and XR2 Ravenstars (corporate shuttles). In case you were wondering, my previous post on ASA was just to provide the basic setup for the project. I am willing to set it up, all I need is a logo, staff, and a launch facility!


Here is my list of projects (so far):

November: First launch of Artemis 1- Overton Island (Satellite launch)

December: Artemis Space Outpost construction begins- will have operational by March

 

[Shadow Addict]

Artemis is primarily a "boost-your-payload to orbit" company, with a focus on expendable rockets as opposed to spaceplanes, although Artemis maintains a fleet of XR5 Vanguards (cargo transports) and XR2 Ravenstars (corporate shuttles). In case you were wondering, my previous post on ASA was just to provide the basic setup for the project. I am willing to set it up, all I need is a logo, staff, and a launch facility!

I know it sounds like it's "that easy" at this point, but garyw is right. Running a VSA is a very complicated task that very very few people have actually succeeded at.

Don't get me wrong, it'd be great if your VSA broke this mold and became successful and stable. I'm just warning you that if you get involved in making one, you're probably gonna end up needing more time for it than you expect now.

 

[fireballs619]

Artemis is primarily a "boost-your-payload to orbit" company, with a focus on expendable rockets as opposed to spaceplanes, although Artemis maintains a fleet of XR5 Vanguards (cargo transports) and XR2 Ravenstars (corporate shuttles). In case you were wondering, my previous post on ASA was just to provide the basic setup for the project. I am willing to set it up, all I need is a logo, staff, and a launch facility!

I hate to discourage you here, but you are going to need a lot more than that to be considered a real VSA. My cancelled VSA, VASO, had that, yet I never considered it anything close to being a full VSA. You will need a website (not free webs or anything, it looks like you are not serious), a place on that website where pilots can sign up for missions, report missions, where missions can be checked in, a calendar of upcoming events, a way to contact you (the CEO), a way to handle promotions and recognitions, and other things.

You also don't have a structure. How will the staff be organized, who will get to fly what vessel, are there training programs? How are leaders selected, how are disorderly members handled, how are failed missions dealt with? What constitutes a failed mission? You have got to think everything through for it to be a success. I recommend you read this outline I came up with for VASO. If you are still interested, feel free to contact me and I'll give you some pointers.

 

[Polaris]

Here's how I planned it (this is part 1):

To get into Artemis, you need to have had some flight time both inside and outside of Earth's atmosphere. It doesn't matter whether you're a PFC or a PH.D, you need flight time.

A failed mission is either one or more of the following (this is a PARTIAL list):

Artemis loses the contract

The rocket explodes

The payload is lost


There is a training program, and it is called New Horizons. To get in, you need at least 30 hours in a high-speed jet and at least 15 hours outside of Earth's atmosphere. Basic training is done with F-22 Raptors, F-18 Hornets, and T-38 Talons, and later on, Delta Gliders.

 

[garyw]

There is a training program, and it is called New Horizons. To get in, you need at least 30 hours in a high-speed jet and at least 15 hours outside of Earth's atmosphere. Basic training is done with F-22 Raptors, F-18 Hornets, and T-38 Talons, and later on, Delta Gliders.

If you want VSA training ->

http://orbiter.gdwnet.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=99&Itemid=83

I've tried to cover training for Pilots, scientists and guest astronauts as not all will require high speed jet training.

 

[Polaris]

Here are some other requirements to enter Artemis New Horizons:


Have at least a Bachelor's Degree

Have a pilot's license (either a private pilot's license or a commercial pilot's license)

Corporate structure is much like that of VASO

---------- Post added at 08:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

WE HAVE IGNITION!

Artemis now has a website (it's sponsored by Google Sites)! :banana:

 

[Hielor]

Have at least a Bachelor's Degree

Have a pilot's license (either a private pilot's license or a commercial pilot's license)

You're going to pretty severely limit your membership with those two limitations.

 

[MJR]

You're going to pretty severely limit your membership with those two limitations.

AGREED! You really can't expect most people to have those as one. Maybe if it is like a blackboard classroom where you do virtual classes and things, but I don't agree with your requirements.