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First of all i would like to congratulate the us for choosing a president with brains.

second, i would like to give some comment on the criticism. I heard that people think he is a communist or socialist, in Holland we would consider Obama more conservative and right then the most conservative party (de VVD voor nederlanders).

Also we would not call him black, as he is a half-black, half white.
 
Berlusconi called him "young, good looking and tanned". :lol:
 
Whatever. He won't be able to enact half of the policies he's been preaching for the last two years, and by the end of his first term the large majority of the people who voted for him will hate him as a president. But that's American "democracy" to you.

In the meanwhile, you can start learning your new anthem.

YouTube - Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem


while i agree america will hate him by then i would like to say if i could i dont like people who make fun of our democracy. if it so bad how come there are people jumping the mexican border to get here.
 
Just to quote Thomas Gottschalk, fresh from TV (he said this only 10 minutes ago):

When I was dining with the chancellor (of Germany), you have two Audi cars, and that's all. But when the convoy of the US president was driving past me, you had me singing the US anthem at the end of it, even though I was upset that I had to stop.



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I will tell you: In 4.5 years, you will love him. Because he has the right amount of charisma, for making the USA look good in the world, and when the USA look good in the world, you also look a bit better.

He maybe of the wrong party for some of you, and some lost in yesterday will complain about the color of his skin. But there is nothing in his promises, which even suggests he would do bad politics - his economy politics for example are almost exactly the stuff, leading economic scientists are suggesting for decades, with managers and politicians ignoring it.
 
Whatever. He won't be able to enact half of the policies he's been preaching for the last two years, and by the end of his first term the large majority of the people who voted for him will hate him as a president. But that's American "democracy" to you.

In the meanwhile, you can start learning your new anthem.

YouTube - Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem


That has nothing to do with American democracy, only the idiots in our country who can never make up their mind. I do agree that most people will hate him in 4 years though.
 
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Yeah Obama doesn't have direct control over the gov yet, and the electoral college still have to vote him in. But chances that the electoral college will overturn the results are very slim.

Technically that is illegal in some states, punishable under various state laws. This makes the scenario rather impossible...
 
Technically that is illegal in some states, punishable under various state laws. This makes the scenario rather impossible...

Its illegal? I thought that it actually has happened once in the past USA history.
 
if it so bad how come there are people jumping the mexican border to get here.

I believe that has more to do with economy (and drug smuggling) than politics; Also, I believe it's not because the USA is above average at anything, but because Mexico is a sad, failing excuse for a country. But don't worry, the more you let in, the closer you are to joining them in that club, which is why I support full amnesty for "illegal" (according to fascist US laws) immigrants. Socialism has to begin somewhere!
 
That has nothing to do with American democracy, only the idiots in our country who can never make up their mind. I do agree that most people will hate him in 4 years though.

Do you want to see AUTHENTIC idiots who can never make up their mind?... Come to my country. AR81 said it in a previous post in this thread. Or even better. Go to the Argentinia (argentinians, excuse me), where the wild capitalism almost ruined the country AND the people is SO STUPID that continue supporting the politicians that did it.

By the way... Are you loving your CURRENT president (Bush)??? 'Cos i can imagine that with your thinking, you're lovin' his actions (excuse me if it's not like i imagine).
 
But don't worry, the more you let in, the closer you are to joining them in that club, which is why I support full amnesty for "illegal" (according to fascist US laws) immigrants. Socialism has to begin somewhere!

Fascist US laws?

If someone comes to the country and is getting all the benefits of being a citizen without any of the responsibility (ie, taxes), they're a social parasite, and I don't see how not wanting such drains on your country is fascism.
 
Fascist US laws?

If someone comes to the country and is getting all the benefits of being a citizen without any of the responsibility (ie, taxes), they're a social parasite, and I don't see how not wanting such drains on your country is fascism.

Exactly, fascist. You feel entitled to deny someone the right to live on "your" territory because they speak Spanish, look tanned and don't share your standards of body hygiene. If it was because of taxes, I'm pretty sure it'd be an a lot more productive solution to both sides to integrate them into the American citizenship and have them pay taxes. Instead, what you're doing is the equivalent of "monkey from other tribe, must hit over head with blunt object".
 
Exactly, fascist. You feel entitled to deny someone the right to live on "your" territory because they speak Spanish, look tanned and don't share your standards of body hygiene. If it was because of taxes, I'm pretty sure it'd be an a lot more productive solution to both sides to integrate them into the American citizenship and have them pay taxes. Instead, what you're doing is the equivalent of "monkey from other tribe, must hit over head with blunt object".

Any attempt to control borders is fascist?
 
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