Scenario Orbiter 2016 - Re-launch(Re-Open) Quick Save Scenario causes Atlantis to fly off the pad after un-pausing (SOLVED)

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Hi All. I have been working on the Default Atlantis platform in Orbiter 2016 and want to edit the scenario (via the GUI), such as changing the time, camera additions, etc. I am using a default Orbiter 2016 scenario: "Atlantis satellite Launch.scn" located in ..\Orbiter2016\Scenarios\Space Shuttle Atlantis\. After loading it, I am editing the scenario slightly while paused, then un-pausing to write the new state of the scenario, the re-pausing.

Even just adding a camera view or no changes at all, and then switching to the external view to save using the menu bar seems to break the scenario.

After exiting to the launchpad and "saving current..." to a scenario in the root Scenarios folder, I notice after starting that new scenario up or launching the "Current state" and un-pausing, Atlantis just leaps off the launchpad without thrust of any kind and flies up a few hundred feet and comes back down.

In Orbiter 2010, this never happened. I wondered if #1 anyone else sees the same behavior, and #2 if there is a fix.


Any help would be very much appreciated.
 
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Absolutely. I will post both files. The original and the new saved file.

"Atlantis satellite Launch.scn"

Code: 
BEGIN_DESC
Contains the latest simulation state.
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 51983.4911372348
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship STS-101
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET STS-101
  MODE Extern
  POS 4.55 90.88 6.10
  TRACKMODE Ground Earth
  GROUNDLOCATION -80.61871 28.62773 6.76
  FOV 20.00
  BEGIN_PRESET
    Cockpit:STS-101:40.00
    Ground:STS-101:40.00:Earth -80.62339 28.61960 110.00
    Track:STS-101:50.00:RELATIVE 2.890 -0.009 -1.229
    Ground:STS-101:10.00:Earth -80.65298 28.58028 20.00
    Track:ISS:40.00:RELATIVE 1.983 -0.474 -0.522
    Track:Earth:40.00:GLOBAL 2.896 2.132 -0.331
  END_PRESET
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Surface
  SPDMODE 1
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 3100278.869 5564948.477 -2171347.540
  RVEL 6683.7633 -3814.0822 -218.6167
  AROT 110.000 -10.000 80.000
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  IDS 0:1 100 1:2 100 2:3 100 3:4 100 4:5 100
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 466
END
Mir:Mir
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -71360.378 -407233.317 -6658217.423
  RVEL 7729.4436 -4.7640 -77.9143
  AROT 5.000 10.000 15.000
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
  XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -469147.671 2188136.224 616.884
  RVEL -1447.2851 -310.3424 -0.1281
  AROT 0.000 -0.000 154.977
  VROT 0.0000 0.0000 10.0000
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
  XPDR 494
END
STS-101:Atlantis
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6208630 28.6270927
  HEADING 180.57
  ALT 47.361
  AROT 151.063 -8.225 4.515
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
  SAT_OFS_X 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Y 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Z 0.000000
  CARGO_STATIC_MESH Carina_cradle
  CARGO_STATIC_OFS 0.000000 -1.650000 0.050000
END
Carina:Carina
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS 0.0000000 0.0000000
  HEADING 0.00
  ALT 1.984
  AROT 90.000 0.000 90.000
  ATTACHED 0:0,STS-101
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
SH-02:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6745293 28.5197211
  HEADING 100.02
  ALT 2.985
  AROT -63.125 -80.138 123.889
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  AIRLOCK 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
  ATTREF 0 0 0
  ADI_LAYOUT 0
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------NEW FILE-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Default Atlantis Satellite Launch.scn"

Code: 
BEGIN_DESC
This is the default Atlantis satellite Launch located in the ../Scenarios/Space Shuttle Atlantis folder. Nothing has been changed.

END_DESC
END_DESC

BEGIN_ENVIRONMENT
  System Sol
  Date MJD 51983.4911426021
  Help CurrentState_img
END_ENVIRONMENT

BEGIN_FOCUS
  Ship STS-101
END_FOCUS

BEGIN_CAMERA
  TARGET STS-101
  MODE Extern
  POS 4.550000 90.880000 6.100000
  TRACKMODE Ground Earth
  GROUNDLOCATION -80.61871 28.62773 6.76
  FOV 20.00
  BEGIN_PRESET
    Cockpit:STS-101:40.00
    Ground:STS-101:40.00:Earth -80.62339 28.61960 110.00
    Track:STS-101:50.00:RELATIVE 2.890 -0.009 -1.229
    Ground:STS-101:10.00:Earth -80.65298 28.58028 20.00
    Track:ISS:40.00:RELATIVE 1.983 -0.474 -0.522
    Track:Earth:40.00:GLOBAL 2.896 2.132 -0.331
  END_PRESET
END_CAMERA

BEGIN_HUD
  TYPE Surface
END_HUD

BEGIN_MFD Left
  TYPE Surface
  SPDMODE 1
END_MFD

BEGIN_MFD Right
  TYPE Orbit
  PROJ Ship
  FRAME Ecliptic
  REF Earth
END_MFD

BEGIN_SHIPS
ISS:ProjectAlpha_ISS
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS 3103377.935 5563178.967 -2171448.619
  RVEL 6681.8852 -3817.4580 -217.3049
  AROT 110.000 -10.000 80.000
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  IDS 0:1 100 1:2 100 2:3 100 3:4 100 4:5 100
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 466
END
Mir:Mir
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -67775.947 -407235.466 -6658252.596
  RVEL 7729.4869 -4.5053 -73.7666
  AROT 5.000 10.000 15.000
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:540 100 1:542 100 2:544 100
  XPDR 482
END
Luna-OB1:Wheel
  STATUS Orbiting Moon
  RPOS -469818.807 2187992.204 616.820
  RVEL -1447.1899 -310.7863 -0.1282
  AROT -0.000 -0.000 159.614
  VROT 0.0000 -0.0000 10.0000
  AFCMODE 7
  IDS 0:560 100 1:564 100
  XPDR 494
END
STS-101:Atlantis
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96452.373 5024683.782 -3915824.998
  RVEL 407.7366 2.7473 -6.5051
  AROT 127.952 0.868 -0.489
  VROT 0.0216 -0.0059 0.0015
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 1:0,STS-101_ET
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
  SAT_OFS_X 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Y 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Z 0.000000
  CARGO_STATIC_MESH Carina_cradle
  CARGO_STATIC_OFS 0.000000 -1.650000 0.050000
  MET 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
  ASCENTAP 0 0 1 350000 1.5708 0.00000 0.00000
END
Carina:Carina
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96452.373 5024683.782 -3915824.998
  RVEL 407.7366 2.7473 -6.5051
  AROT 127.952 0.868 -0.489
  VROT 0.0216 -0.0059 0.0015
  ATTACHED 0:0,STS-101
  AFCMODE 7
  NAVFREQ 0 0
END
SH-02:ShuttleA
  STATUS Landed Earth
  POS -80.6745293 28.5197211
  HEADING 100.02
  ALT 2.985
  AROT -63.125 -80.138 123.889
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000 1:1.000000
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  XPDR 0
  PODANGLE 0.0000 0.0000
  DOCKSTATE 0 0.0000
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  PAYLOAD MASS 0.0 0
  ATTREF 0 0 0
  ADI_LAYOUT 0
END
STS-101_ET:Atlantis_Tank
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96452.511 5024699.425 -3915827.078
  RVEL 407.7377 2.7465 -6.5110
  AROT 127.952 0.868 -0.489
  VROT 0.0216 -0.0059 0.0015
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 0:1,STS-101 1:0,STS-101-SRB1 2:0,STS-101-SRB2
END
STS-101-SRB1:Atlantis_SRB
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96458.537 5024690.396 -3915819.969
  RVEL 407.7365 2.7495 -6.5081
  AROT 127.952 0.868 -0.489
  VROT 0.0216 -0.0059 0.0015
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 0:1,STS-101_ET
END
STS-101-SRB2:Atlantis_SRB
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96446.139 5024690.479 -3915820.168
  RVEL 407.7365 2.7487 -6.5071
  AROT 127.952 0.868 179.511
  VROT -0.0216 0.0059 0.0015
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 0:2,STS-101_ET
END
END_SHIPS

BEGIN_ExtMFD
END


Thanks for your help
 
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Weird, your scn has the Atlantis on the ground. weird I ran the default one and my Atlantis is on the ground below the pad.

So weird. Configuration 0 is launch set up but the shuttle is just on the ground. 3 puts the shuttle on the pad but no SRB and ET

I assume your default Atlantis works
 
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Yes. The default or original scenario works.

I noticed among other changes the new saved file shows that the STS-101 section as "Orbiting Earth". The original STATUS is "Landed Earth".


Code: 
STS-101:Atlantis
  STATUS Orbiting Earth
  RPOS -96452.373 5024683.782 -3915824.998
  RVEL 407.7366 2.7473 -6.5051
  AROT 127.952 0.868 -0.489
  VROT 0.0216 -0.0059 0.0015
  AFCMODE 7
  PRPLEVEL 0:1.000000
  DOCKINFO 1:0,STS-101_ET
  NAVFREQ 0 0
  CONFIGURATION 0
  GEAR 0 0.0000
  ARM_STATUS 0.5000 0.0000 0.0000 0.5000 0.5000 0.5000
  SAT_OFS_X 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Y 0.000000
  SAT_OFS_Z 0.000000
  CARGO_STATIC_MESH Carina_cradle
  CARGO_STATIC_OFS 0.000000 -1.650000 0.050000
  MET 0.000 0.000 0.000 0.000
  ASCENTAP 0 0 1 350000 1.5708 0.00000 0.00000
END
 
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Ok so it turns out that there was a lot differences in the new scenario. I decided to edit my new scenario to be exactly like the original minus the changes to the camera sections that I wanted and saved it. This worked!! Apparently when you save a quick save file, Orbiter changes this particular scenario quite a bit. I don't understand enough about scenarios to know why. I also noticed choosing a different STS-101 to ISS scenario to "remake" did not cause the issue when saved in the Launchpad.

Thanks so much for the help!
 
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