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Author: anroalh12

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This add-on simulates the planetary system of the film Interstellar br Christopher Nolan.

I hope you like this. 

This add-on is still in development.

Update 1 - Planets' data corrected. Added a separated exo-system.
Update 2 - Gargantua model changed.


By Anroalh12



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You've done an excellent job on the system, anroalh12. However, I think it would be a good idea if you had also included to option to render it as either a separate entity or as part of the Sol system, the same way flexer did in his rendition of the Alpha Centauri system as depicted in Avatar.
 
You've done an excellent job on the system, anroalh12. However, I think it would be a good idea if you had also included to option to render it as either a separate entity or as part of the Sol system, the same way flexer did in his rendition of the Alpha Centauri system as depicted in Avatar.

In the next version.
 
Also, the planets' radii are too small while their masses are more than that of a gas giant. As mentioned earlier, Miller would be approximately 16,600 kilometres in diameter and have a mass of 7.7658086584 x 10^24 kilograms (assuming similar surface density to Earth), while Mann would be approximately 10,200 kilometres in diameter with a mass of 4.7789591744 x 10^24 kilograms (again assuming similar surface density to Earth.) Due to lack of sufficient information, I'm guessing that Edmunds probably about the same size and mass as Earth.

Furthermore, a neutron star such as Pantagruel would only be about 10 kilometres in diameter but with about the same amount of mass as Sol.
 
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Also, the planets' radii are too small while their masses are more than that of a gas giant. As mentioned earlier, Miller would be approximately 16,600 kilometres in diameter and have a mass of 7.7658086584 x 10^24 kilograms (assuming similar surface density to Earth), while Mann would be approximately 10,200 kilometres in diameter with a mass of 4.7789591744 x 10^24 kilograms (again assuming similar surface density to Earth.) Due to lack of sufficient information, I'm guessing that Edmunds probably about the same size and mass as Earth.

Furthermore, a neutron star such as Pantagruel would only be about 10 kilometres in diameter but with about the same amount of mass as Sol.

All corrected.
 
Good job there, but the planets' configuration data is still a bit off. The physical parameters should be as follows for Miller:

Mass = 7.7658086584e24
Size = 8.300500e6

Mann:

Mass = 4.7789591744e24
Size = 5.110500e6

Edmunds:

Mass = 5.39000842e24
Size = 6.180500e6

Also, the rotation and precession elements for Mann should include the following line:

SidRotPeriod = 482400

Finally, there are two more bugs that still need to be resolved. Firstly, Edmunds orbits a bit too close to Pantagruel, enough that its gravitational influence sends the Delta Glider careening away from the planet uncontrollably and in random directions. The same could be said for the other planets as well - at their current distances from their source, they are not entirely stable and the planets themselves would likely be torn apart by gravity. Also, Gargantua, rather than being in the same place as its "light source", is located right next to it (or at least this is how it is on Orbiter 2010).
 
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Good job there, but the planets' configuration data is still a bit off. The physical parameters should be as follows for Miller:

Mass = 7.7658086584e24
Size = 8.300500e6

Mann:

Mass = 4.7789591744e24
Size = 5.110500e6

Edmunds:

Mass = 5.39000842e24
Size = 6.180500e6

Also, the rotation and precession elements for Mann should include the following line:

SidRotPeriod = 482400

Finally, there are two more bugs that still need to be resolved. Firstly, Edmunds orbits a bit too close to Pantagruel, enough that its gravitational influence sends the Delta Glider careening away from the planet uncontrollably and in random directions. Also, Gargantua, rather than being in the same place as its "light source", is located right next to it (or at least this is how it is on Orbiter 2010).

Let me some time to correct it. Now I'm sitting exams everyday.
 
I think I may have found the solution to these problems. Basically, instead of Gargantua and its "light source" being two separate objects, the two should be the same thing, like this:

Star1 = Gargantua
Planet1 = Miller
Planet2 = Mann
Planet3 = Pantagruel
Pantagruel:Moon1 = Edmunds

In order to do this, you will have to rename Sun-Gargantua to simply Gargantua and delete the "planet" of the same name. Of course, this means it will no longer look like a black hole, but this is a necessary sacrifice, since otherwise the add-on will not function properly.

Also, I have noticed that Miller and Mann both seem to have the same orbital radius here, when presumably the latter is further away from Gargantua in the film (otherwise it would've suffered from the same time dilation problem as the former). Therefore, the following change should be made to the configuration file for Mann:

SemiMajorAxis = 4884870000

Finally, in order to solve the problem of Edmunds being too close to Pantagruel, the following change should be made to the former's configuration file:

SemiMajorAxis = 768800000.132
 
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I think I may have found the solution to these problems. Basically, instead of Gargantua and its "light source" being two separate objects, the two should be the same thing, like this:

Star1 = Gargantua
Planet1 = Miller
Planet2 = Mann
Planet3 = Pantagruel
Pantagruel:Moon1 = Edmunds

In order to do this, you will have to rename Sun-Gargantua to simply Gargantua and delete the "planet" of the same name. Of course, this means it will no longer look like a black hole, but this is a necessary sacrifice, since otherwise the add-on will not function properly.

Also, I have noticed that Miller and Mann both seem to have the same orbital radius here, when presumably the latter is further away from Gargantua in the film (otherwise it would've suffered from the same time dilation problem as the former). Therefore, the following change should be made to the configuration file for Mann:

SemiMajorAxis = 4884870000

Finally, in order to solve the problem of Edmunds being too close to Pantagruel, the following change should be made to the former's configuration file:

SemiMajorAxis = 768800000.132

Everything changed.
 
Gattispilot, Lisias, and I are working on the ships seen in Interstellar. Needless to say, your add-on is central to our work. It gives our ships a place to go! I have some questions; Though we never see it in the movie, shouldn't there be a wormhole in the Gargantua-Pantagruel system? Isn't that the arrival point for the Endurance in the system? Also, though I just discovered your add-on, I see from the comments that its been updated to account for planetary mass, orbital parameters, and illumination. Are you intending to recreate the visual effect of Gargantua?

Thanks for the add-on!
Ben
 
Have you read Kip Thorne's "The Science of Interstellar" ?
I'm afraid, it's not possible to simulate Gargantua in the Orbiter, even roughly.

Usefull links:
http://interstellarfilm.wikia.com/wiki/Gargantua
By calculations of Kip Thorne, Gargantua is about 100 million solar masses, placing it firmly as a supermassive black hole. Furthermore, it is an edge case in that it's somehow spun up to maximum minus 0.00000000000001 of the maximum, dragging space around it as it did so. Several of the visual effects were toned down severely from what it would actually look like; the event horizon would be warped and red and blue shifted. Miller's planet would have been under the level of the accretion disk and the event horizon would have covered 40% of the visible sky. By those same calculations, orbital transfers to Miller's would likely require slingshot maneuvers around intermediate mass black holes at both the start of maneuvers and at the end, as the energy requirements seemingly preclude other methods of getting the required energy. Partially alluded to in movie by the short reference to a neutron star being useful for slingshot maneuvers.

http://interstellarfilm.wikia.com/wiki/Miller_(planet)
One of the main reasons Planet Miller isn't pulled into the black hole in spite of its proximity is that Kip Thorne made sure that Gargantua was a rapidly spinning black hole—and it turns out that the physics of rotating black holes differ from non-rotating ones. The sheer speed of Gargantua's rotation means there is a single stable orbit just outside of Gargantua's event horizon that is very stable. It was also stated, Miller's Planet to outside observers orbits Gargantua every 1.7 hours. On Miller's Planet, that means the planet orbits ten times a second around Gargantua, which is normally faster than the speed of light. But since the spin from Gargantua caused space to whirl around it similar to wind, Miller's Planet does not travel faster than light relative to its space as the laws of physics say you cannot travel faster than light relative to space, but space itself is not bound by the speed limit. As such, faster than light travel is possible by bending and twisting space. However, Gargantua would have to fill half the sky in order for it to be so close.
The time dilation on Miller due to the gravitational forces of Gargantua would be tantamount to the planet moving at roughly 99.99999998% the speed of light.


http://interstellarfilm.wikia.com/wiki/Ice_Planet
In Kip Thorne's book, The Science of Interstellar, he mentions that planet Mann probably has a highly elliptical orbit around Gargantua. He surmised this from the sublimating ice clouds, which, after a while, would totally evaporate. Therefore, the clouds must freeze and evaporate repeatedly, which Thorne believed could be caused by the eccentricity of Mann's orbit. The planet's gravity is 80% of Earth's gravity.
 
Thanks Ajaja. We've been concentrating on modeling the ships but not looking closely at the physics :hmm:
 
I would think if the Interstellar system was placed some where. And a BIG thing is if the Gateway work then you could place a Gateway near Saturn and the other in the Interstellar System and then you could go to and fro
 
I would think if the Interstellar system was placed some where. And a BIG thing is if the Gateway work then you could place a Gateway near Saturn and the other in the Interstellar System and then you could go to and fro

I can give you all the files of the add-on if you want to make a new system or modify this.
 
Is there any clue to where the wormhole portal is on the Gargantua-Pantagruel side? From reviewing the movie, it seems that it's close to Miller's planet.
 
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