Updates Artemis II
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dennis.krenz
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So they are trying to beat Apollo 13?
GLS
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They are not beating Apollo 8...
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No more poop bags from now on lol
xionx
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Is anyone convinced by the current advancement for Artemis III?
I mean the Starship HLS hasn't really been worked on, transferring fuel in orbit has never been done before, and there is so many challenges to transform Starship as a fully automated moon lander, and idk if it's just me but I've seen absolutely 0 blueprint and concept being worked on for starship HLS except some artistic sci-fi renders.
So many engineering challenges to solve. Also I wonder how they will put in orbit a tanker version of Starship and still have enough fuel to be used as a LEO tank. I haven't done delta-v calculation to approximately know how filled should be HLS lander but I'm pretty sure this will be problematic.
NASA has so little budget nowadays and is relying so much on other private companies there isn't much engineering anymore from their side compared to the golden era of space exploration. NASA is really going efficient in terms of production, research etc...
With that said, I'm still really hyped for Artemis 2, it will surely be impressive.
I mean the Starship HLS hasn't really been worked on, transferring fuel in orbit has never been done before, and there is so many challenges to transform Starship as a fully automated moon lander, and idk if it's just me but I've seen absolutely 0 blueprint and concept being worked on for starship HLS except some artistic sci-fi renders.
So many engineering challenges to solve. Also I wonder how they will put in orbit a tanker version of Starship and still have enough fuel to be used as a LEO tank. I haven't done delta-v calculation to approximately know how filled should be HLS lander but I'm pretty sure this will be problematic.
NASA has so little budget nowadays and is relying so much on other private companies there isn't much engineering anymore from their side compared to the golden era of space exploration. NASA is really going efficient in terms of production, research etc...
With that said, I'm still really hyped for Artemis 2, it will surely be impressive.
N_Molson
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Not me.
xionx
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Fair enough lol
Thunder Chicken
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LOL no. The U.S. isn't putting boots on the moon again any time soon, and I don't think it's going to happen again ever. Starship is still undergoing major design changes and it is still popping welds just sitting on the pad. The whole Lunar Gateway infrastructure is a convoluted mess.
I hope Artemis II goes well and they enjoy getting pictures of the back side of the moon, but I hope the program gets shut down after that before they get someone killed trying to get this half-baked boondoggle of a lunar program to work.
barrygolden
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I hate to say it but your right. Space X has made great strides but still a long way to go with Moonship and landing a 7 story building in a rock pile not the smartest idea . Team USA was too tall as well and cost way too much but you could see the space tug to get it there and MK 2 will need that as well I think that is close to being built. LM lander or the Altair made the most sense you could just reuse the ascent stage and fly a fully fueled descent stage and dock that to the ascent stage and ready to have a go at landinging again. Looking back it seems like Alpaca would have put us on the Moon by now and looked pretty cheap to build so a new one every flight or refuel it , and no matter what system NASA uses it will need a deep space tug and a cargo lander for the Big rover and to land the Habs on the surface for a base. If they can't bring down the cost of the SLS then sounds like its done even though the SLS is 4/5s completed and ready to be shipped to KSC . The SLS is funded through Artemis 5 and SLS 4 is well on its way and SLS 5 just starting on the bulkheads . SLS 6 through 8 planned but no work on them as yet
During the mid 1980's NASA looked at this idea as a taxi for their " first Lunar Outpost" and I thought it was a pretty good idea to use proven Apollo hardware
During the mid 1980's NASA looked at this idea as a taxi for their " first Lunar Outpost" and I thought it was a pretty good idea to use proven Apollo hardware
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richfororbit
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Open the airlock, UAP's will disappear. Them mad Homosapians. Their
This was what I was going to type about the new toilet. I didn't realise it was still here.
Heil.
It is down to the space x company to get a lander going. That will need testing, time will show and tell.
This was what I was going to type about the new toilet. I didn't realise it was still here.
Heil.
It is down to the space x company to get a lander going. That will need testing, time will show and tell.
dennis.krenz
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Heil.
This is the point when the bartender starts to remove the expensive bottles from his bar and the music stops.
dennis.krenz
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oh he actually meant hail.
the Probe.
not the... you know...
leave that bottle
Did you know, that even using a literal translation in different languages can transport more than just the meaning you intent?
You can fall for this trap even if you stay in English. Just tell a somebody that you are "quite smart". A US guy might think you are a braggart. A Brit might think you are maybe too hard to yourself.
And now, that here is a US forum with the Lingua Franca English, that is frequented by all kinds of people, including British people.... Danger Will Robinson.
Of course, we are all friends here (RLY!!1) and have a lot of humor (even the Germans) and don't want to react to such a communication faux pas thin-skinned. And not:
- Escalate with more such communication faux pas until it gets under the skin of people.
- Make people run out of humor.
- Stop being all friends.
dennis.krenz
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Hey don’t insult german humour
Hey, I didn't deny that it exists. It is just hard to understand, even for Germans. We need jokes that announce their punch line weeks in advance....
jedidia
shoemaker without legs
Considering the way the thread was going, you could have taken a certain scene from the third movie, though that would probably have raised more questions about german humor...Hey don’t insult german humour
