News Last Cold War-era B53 nuclear bomb dismantled in Texas

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You must be very unlucky to accidentally set of a nuclear bomb
 

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i hate to ask,but what will we do when china attacks us and we have nothing to get them with?

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what,ever heard of 'Nuclear blackmail' ?

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Ever heard of another types of nuclear warheads? B-53 was powerfull but obsolete. There are cheaper and newer weapons already in US nuclear arsenal.
 
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Ever heard of another types of nuclear warheads? B-53 was powerfull but obsolete. There are cheaper and newer weapons already in US nuclear arsenal.
true,but i wasnt saying that this was representative of the entire us nuclear arsenal, but reduction of nuclear weapons wont guarntee us a safe enviornment,espacally with all of the radicals out there
 

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The United States and Russia had over 30,000 nuclear devices in their arsenals as of February 2001. It would take 800 such devices to end most human life on this planet. Dismantling some old & expensive in maintenance bombs/warheads won't make a difference...


Imagine all the people, living in harmony.
- John Lennon, Imagine
 

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true,but i wasnt saying that this was representative of the entire us nuclear arsenal, but reduction of nuclear weapons wont guarntee us a safe enviornment,espacally with all of the radicals out there

I don't think we have anything to worry about in regards to the size of our arsenal. Also, you might want to educate yourself on theories surrounding the usage of nuclear weapons, the facts about our relationship with the rest of the world, and well, geopolitics in general before you say things like "What happens when China attacks us"
 

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true,but i wasnt saying that this was representative of the entire us nuclear arsenal, but reduction of nuclear weapons wont guarntee us a safe enviornment,espacally with all of the radicals out there

OK.

1) Don't worry, China won't launch a nuclear strike against you. I promise.

2) If it happened, there would be no winners, humanity would vanish from the Earth surface. Those didn't killed by the blasts and fires would not survive the fallouts and the decades of nuclear winters (maybe centuries, if enough dust is sent to orbit). Amiboeas would survive in their abysses, evolute, and take control of the Earth a billion of years later.
 

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So, who did they sell that uranium to?
 

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I think people overestimate the effects of a large-scale nuclear exchange.

Make humanity extinct? Slag continents? Unlikely. Humans really are like cockroaches, they're difficult to kill.

Also, nuclear weapons are not and have never been implemented as a means to commit omnicide (as much as it may resemble their use). A strategic nuclear exchange would occur between two targets; areas that are not these targets would remain relatively unscathed. As much as people forget, there's a whole huge planet besides the US, Europe, Russia and China. Who is going to nuke Botswana?

And fallout depends on wind currents and distance from attack sites. And radiation also decreases with time, and there is potential for things like radiation hormesis occuring.

And as for the climatic effects, "this would do this, this and this" is far more better than "I say this would extinct all humans!!!" It is something that depends on a very wide range of factors.

It is theorised that the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory"]Toba eruption[/ame], which caused a volcanic winter up to a decade long, with a global mean surface temperature drop of 3-5C, reduced the number of humans to down to about 10 000 individuals, creating a genetic 'bottleneck'. Yet here we are some 75000 years later, still surviving.

Over the years, thousands of nuclear devices have been detonated. The largest number of nuclear tests in a year has been over 140.

Of course: I am thinking in ecological terms. On the scale of things like bolide impacts- mass extinction events. Humans may survive, but the human cost would be absolutely horrendous, an undescribable magnitude of suffering.

But it goes without saying, that an outmoded nuclear weapon is not needed to prevent the "Chinese nuclear threat" to the US. Neither are gigantic, omnicidal stockpiles of weapons. This was born out of a Cold War arms race that no longer exists. All that is 'needed' to form an 'acceptable' nuclear deterrant is some 200-400 weapons, which is unsurprisingly the number of weapons that many non US, non Russian nuclear states are said to possess. Just enough weapons, to make the other guy using weapons on you, a blitheringly bad idea.

I am not sure where the 30 000 number comes from though. The number of warheads possessed by the USA and Russia at the moment is more like 20 000, and active warheads are a subset of the total figure.
 
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I am not sure where the 30 000 number comes from though. The number of warheads possessed by the USA and Russia at the moment is more like 20 000, and active warheads are a subset of the total figure.

5,000 warheads is the target after the [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/START_I"]SALT II and START_I treaties[/ame].
 

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Yes the B-51 was retired a while ago. Currently we use the B-83 and B-61 nuclear bombs as our main strike force.
 

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Nuclear war will not end human life on Earth. That's a known fact, the biggest problem is that nuclear winter will send us back to the middle ages and cause billions to starve, especially in the First World where most people do not grow their own food.

The early humans were not affected by a volcanic winter because they were primitive. Look at us now. If the power goes out, people go ape. We cannot survive without the intricate network of transportation that delivers food, energy and consumer goods to us.

Nuclear war is survivable but the post-apocalyptic world will be pure hell.
 
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That's a known fact, the biggest problem is that nuclear winter will send us back to the middle ages and cause billions to starve, especially in the First World where most people do not grow their own food.

And especially in the Third World, where many people have to grow their own food (but can't when the climate fails to provide)...
 
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